[MarkWaldorf]

Yes I know, Their religion tells them to not eat it, but I mean Im sure Sezer didnt mean it like that

[saj]

of course he meant it in a racist way, he was so angry it slipped out. but still thats no excuse. i know he did cause he said it in a malicious way and bearing in mind there was other flavours of crisps in there why did he not say them?

[hass]

what about shabhaz calling himself a '**** puff'. biggest racist in there!! no excuse for it.

[saj]

no he said that is what i am known to some people as

[texbex]

yeh I think he will get bad press and stuff when he comes out espesh the shabaz thing and his flirtations with imogen n the other gals

[saj]

yeah well sezar made his bed, he is gonna have to lie in it

[hass]

NO this is what he exactly said on his VT "my name is shabhaz, i'm a british born, scottish, self proclaimed, **** puff". that was his exact words and that is what he said in the house and dawn was the only person to pull him on it. He was being racist!

[MarkWaldorf]

This is just stupid now! Shahbaz called himself a **** **** and If Sezer meant his commen in a racist way then they both commented on the religion

[hass]

yer but people on this forum are so far up shahbaz' ar*e its unbelievable. its not ok for sezer to offer a muslim bacon crisps, but its ok for him to go around stating he is a **** puff and get away with it?

[kwldude]

Originally posted by saj
of course he meant it in a racist way, he was so angry it slipped out. but still thats no excuse. i know he did cause he said it in a malicious way and bearing in mind there was other flavours of crisps in there why did he not say them?

no sahil i doubt thats the case!

[saj]

taku, i dunno if it was racist or not but it sounded it. and haas nobody said they loved shabaz did they, we were just defending him from yesterdays actions and if he did say those two words then yes that was racist

[hass]

yes he did say those words, i have his VT video on my computer. yer but your defending him when he was also being racist, thus contridicting youself.

[saj]

yeah but if sezer was being racist your also defending him!
enough of this argument ok. cant we just learn to agree to disagree

[hass]

yer but was he being racist as i said before? i can only remember richard saying we will feed him from out of the doors and grabbed a packet of crisps. i cant recall him saying about bacon. aww well lets finish this.

[saj]

yeah lets and yes he did say that. so do you think maxwell and saskia could return haas?

[hass]

no i cant see them going through it again myself.

[GabrielleisLove]

How about we just see when he's evicted..

[Legend]

Tonight's highlight show....

Sezor = biggest gameplayer in the house! He's going soo down on my list lately.

[InTheHood]

He talks too much, and he is so paranoid about everything.

[Nemon]

Is Shabaz even a muslim? I guess i missed a couple of days so i don't really know.

Why do people take offence to things and others don't? I mean "some" vegans might take offence if you offered them a slice of meat while others would not. Would that give those easily offended vegans the right to restrict what others are allowed to say? Ummm. Would they start petitions to remove people from TV because of it? Is choice of religion any more or less important than choice of diet?

Frankly there isn't much that offends me unless it's a directly delivered insult to my face. There's plenty of stuff on TV where some poor sod who, much like myself is the butt of someones joke/insult, hasn't botherd me yet.

To finish off i'd like to say i dont like Sezar or whatever his name is, i think Imgen is going to get burned and she's pretty hot. I didn't like Shezam or whatever his name is either.

[Ruth]

Originally posted by hass
NO this is what he exactly said on his VT "my name is shabhaz, i'm a british born, scottish, self proclaimed, **** puff". that was his exact words and that is what he said in the house and dawn was the only person to pull him on it. He was being racist!

Racism is discriminating against someone because of their race, or treating someone in a bad way because of their race. Shahbaz was not doing this, and in any event, he was referring to himself, not anybody else. Sezer, on the other hand, was taking the mick out of Shahbaz's religion with the smokey bacon crisps.

I didn't like Shahbaz, and I'm glad he's gone (although I would have gladly traded Nikki and kept Shahbaz in). But the fact is that 13 people - well 12, because you can't count Pete - were ganging up on him. I can totally understand why they were annoyed at him, but they weren't just reacting out of frustration - they were really getting a kick out of being nasty to him. There's a big difference in retaliating to someone simply because you have had enough, and taking pleasure in upsetting someone.

[hass]

'****' is an offencive and racist word regardless of who its aimed at.

[~*Xtine*~]

Originally posted by Ruth

Racism is discriminating against someone because of their race, or treating someone in a bad way because of their race. Shahbaz was not doing this, and in any event, he was referring to himself, not anybody else. Sezer, on the other hand, was taking the mick out of Shahbaz's religion with the smokey bacon crisps.

I bet if some body else had called Shahbaz a "**** puff" then you would say this was racist? But just because he said it, this makes it non-racist?! Erm...Ok then!

P.S...Loving the sig Hass x x

[Ruth]

Originally posted by ~*Xtine*~

I bet if some body else had called Shahbaz a "**** puff" then you would say this was racist? But just because he said it, this makes it non-racist?! Erm...Ok then!

First off, don't make assumptions about what I would have said, and please don't wag your finger at me because of your incorrect assumptions. Thank you.

[hass]

the wagging finger is an animated smilie, dont take offence to it, how old are you.

anyway what xtine said is true, its ok for him to call himself a **** but if he called someone else a **** he would of been punished.