[Black Dagger]

Poor ratings... I just hope they realise they are making a huge mistake and this is their try-out series and they realise what is going wrong... personally the ratings should be much better, this is my favourite cast in a while.

[joeysteele]

I think it's too early to moan too much yet, it was a difficult weekend for TV and lots going on.

However,I have come across a fair few people (who really liked CBB), on about BB yesterday and today,who watched other programmes over the weekend as opposed to watching BB,(not younger viewers though),who are totally put off by Jay's in the main conversations.I haven't found many people impressed with Pamela Anderson either, all wondering why she was even there.

I think the ratings will improve,however they desperately need to make available more footage, it is near impossible to get to know enough as to all the housemates in only a 50 minute highlights slot each night.
They will definately need something like live feed next year and really they should think about getting something up and running in the next 3 to 4 weeks as well to hold fair to good ratings.

No need to panic but a re-think is certainly required because this could be a really great series.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Theres allways been a ratings thread stickied.

Your probs the only person this annoys.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Theres allways been a ratings thread stickied.

Your probs the only person this annoys.

[JohnnyBB]

emergency meetings would have been in full swing today!

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by ukturtle

Dont touch me you pervert!

[Visage]

Do you think if it was shown at 9pm instead of 10pm that more viewers would tune in ?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Visage

Do you think if it was shown at 9pm instead of 10pm that more viewers would tune in ?

Yes,I think it would help a bit,this sometimes at 9pm and then 10pm then 9.45 pm. it does irritate a bit.

The thing needed now though is definately more footage.
On CBB,we had an idea of the celebrities,didn't need to get to know them too much, these housemates though are total strangers,50 minutes a night for 14 of them on TV is way too little time to.

[iRyan]

The ratings aren't really that much worse than BB10, and this series is airing in the fall and on a less popular channel.

But I think they've made some major mistakes.

1) NO LIVE FEED. Automatically put ALOT of people off the show. When they axed the live feed in BB10, there was a big ratings drop. Now they've done it again and it's had the same outcome. It's their own damn fault now.
2) They shouldn't have started with CBB. Yes, it gave them good ratings, but BB13 had no buzz around it because all the buzz had started with CBB.
3) Time slots like 9:45 and 10:00 pm are not going to attract as many people, especially in the fall when most viewers have to wake up early for school or work the next day and don't want to stay up until 11.

[iRyan]

Interesting bit I read on DigitalSpy:

The thing is, C4 have around a 6% audience share and they get £600m a year in advertising revenue. C5 have a 4% share and so if everything were equal, they'd get £400m, except they don’t. They get £200m. That disparity is because C4 are viewed as having the best share of the young market with about 15%. C5 know that if they can increase their audience share of the young market up to the same level as C4's, they'll eventually get the same proportion of revenue.

In other words, with a 15% share of the young market, but no increase in the overall 4% audience share, they stand to gain £200m a year and with 15% of the young market and an increase in the overall audience share to C4's 6% level, they can get £400m. With those sort of numbers, the £40m spent on BB is a sound investment if they can make inroads into C4's dominant position.

And it sounds as if they're doing that. 1.5m a night is good if the proportion of young folk is high. The sad fact is that given a choice between 2.5m a night with a low proportion of young folk because all the long time, older fans are happy and tuning in, and 1.5m with a high proportion of kids, C5 would want the latter. In fact, if it gets 2.5m a night and the kids aren't watching, they'll axe the show very quickly because that'll ruin the very thing they're trying to achieve, which is to present a case to advertisers that C5 is the place for the youth market. It's a bit like E4 having a surprising hit with something like Antiques Roadshow (I presume that has an older profile). Even if it got 5m a night, they'd have to get rid because it'd dilute the E4 brand.

The key figures therefore are how is BB doing in the young profile, which I've not seen recently, how is it doing compared to C4 (it beat them again last night), and how is its overall share doing compared to the average for C5 (8% is twice C5's average). Also, 1.5m is on overnights. It didn't get commented here amidst all the negativity, but it looked as if the final CBB figures were up quite a bit on overnights, often by 0.4m or so. 1.5m overnight is probably a 1.8m actual, along with 0.2m on repeats and, amazingly, 0.5m for the spin-off, all translates into about 17m viewers a week. If 15% of those 17m are young, this is exactly what they want. Obviously they'd like more viewers, provided they're young, but as long as they close the gap on C4's proportion of young folk, BB is fulfilling its aim.

[armand.kay]

Why is this not stickied yer :/

[Stu]

A bit silly not having it as a sticky in fairness. It's not as if the sticky threads in the BB12 thread as it is are particularly suffocating. These kind of threads have been sticky for years.

[Omah]

Any predictions for today ?

[Callum]

This should be sticked, threads like the BB12 elimination game are sticked and this isn't allowed to be? Very silly

[billy123]

Nobody had a problem with the stickies the way they were for the last month it looks like one person got their knickers in a twist over it and annoyed half the board.
Its just silly.

[Omah]

wot nuze ?

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Big Brother attracted 1.37m (8%) in the 10pm hour.

Awful

[Benjamin]

There were 9/10 stickies up there.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Read through the forum. You are the only one on this thread who thinks its a good idead to just have the ratings thread floating about.

It was more all the other stickies that I was referring to unstick, but all you have to do is ask admin/mod to stick it back. Not a hard thing to do.

[DigitalSid]

RIP normal BB

[*mazedsalv**]

I don't even know why people are shocked by the ratings.
We had warned Five over and over and over and over again, with emails and phonecalls.
Did they listen? No. Karma's a bitch.

[DigitalSid]

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

I don't even know why people are shocked by the ratings.
We had warned Five over and over and over and over again, with emails and phonecalls.
Did they listen? No. Karma's a bitch.

This has nothing to do with live feed, it would be if it dropped to this mid-series without the show being bad or the competition being better.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Thanks for stickying this again

Anyway yeah remember before it started we all thought it would only get about 1.4 a night anyway and assumed C5 would be happy with that. I think we just assumed all their other programmes done so **** they would be happy with just a million.

However...looking at Channel 5's ratings there are shows on the schedule that are actually beating BB aka CSI and all prime time show on C5 last night got over 1 million viewers.

BB needed to do something special.

I didnt think CBB8 ratings were great but would kill for them now for BB12.

Such a shame as i think this is going to be the best series in years.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Thanks for stickying this again

Anyway yeah remember before it started we all thought it would only get about 1.4 a night anyway and assumed C5 would be happy with that. I think we just assumed all their other programmes done so **** they would be happy with just a million.

However...looking at Channel 5's ratings there are shows on the schedule that are actually beating BB aka CSI and all prime time show on C5 last night got over 1 million viewers.

BB needed to do something special.

I didnt think CBB8 ratings were great but would kill for them now for BB12.

Such a shame as i think this is going to be the best series in years.

Has any british programmes beat Big Brother on C5? if they havent then dont worry yet as C5 get **** ratings.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

Has any british programmes beat Big Brother on C5? if they havent then dont worry yet as C5 get **** ratings.

Back to reality, CSI, Cricket....to name a few.

Channel 5's ratings are not as bad as people make out.