[axxerd]

As a Canadian who has the US BB broadcasted to my TV each year...I hate it. I don't watch it, and can't stand to be in the room to hear it when my wife watches it. It seems so fake, edited, scripted, and full of actors.

I have been downloading BBUK from bit torrents since the year Anthony won

[Mokka]

Canadian too, and while I can agree that BBUS Season 6 was good, it has really been all down hill from there.
I far Far FAR prefer UK over US. US has become too predictable with alliances from day one setting the stage for the outcome every time.
What I like best about UK is the people's vote ( that I wish I could be apart of b/c if I had Harry would not have left), the not discussing nominations (which didn't apply this year), and the after shows. The only thing US beats UK in is challenges are more intense.
One last note, with UK I am addicted from the beginning, but once it gets down too the final 5, it becomes boring. With US, I can usually skip the first half of the season and still get everything I need from it for entertainment out of the last 1/3 b/c that's when it ramps up.

[Liberty4eva]

Originally Posted by Mokkajava

Canadian too, and while I can agree that BBUS Season 6 was good, it has really been all down hill from there.
I far Far FAR prefer UK over US. US has become too predictable with alliances from day one setting the stage for the outcome every time.
What I like best about UK is the people's vote ( that I wish I could be apart of b/c if I had Harry would not have left), the not discussing nominations (which didn't apply this year), and the after shows. The only thing US beats UK in is challenges are more intense.
One last note, with UK I am addicted from the beginning, but once it gets down too the final 5, it becomes boring. With US, I can usually skip the first half of the season and still get everything I need from it for entertainment out of the last 1/3 b/c that's when it ramps up.

The only season that I would call too predictable was season 12 with the brigade. Last year there were no close votes. This season there were many close votes and there was more fighting. Who could have predicted Shelly would backstab her favorite houseguest ever, Jeff? Who could have predicted she would vote for Rachel to win Big Brother and be the swing vote to do so? Rachel making it to the final 2 is almost a miracle.

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva

The only season that I would call too predictable was season 12 with the brigade. Last year there were no close votes. This season there were many close votes and there was more fighting. Who could have predicted Shelly would backstab her favorite houseguest ever, Jeff? Who could have predicted she would vote for Rachel to win Big Brother and be the swing vote to do so? Rachel making it to the final 2 is almost a miracle.

Shelly backstabbing = predictable. Did you not see her in the diary room and how sneakily she played the "double agent" to make it look like she was helping someone other than her self

Rachel winning = predictable, since BB practically manipulated the whole game to make it happen. (Brendon coming back, pandora's box). No miracle here, just great production.

All of the events were apart of the BBUS cookie cutter show

[Liberty4eva]

Originally Posted by Mokkajava

Shelly backstabbing = predictable. Did you not see her in the diary room and how sneakily she played the "double agent" to make it look like she was helping someone other than her self

Rachel winning = predictable, since BB practically manipulated the whole game to make it happen. (Brendon coming back, pandora's box). No miracle here, just great production.

All of the events were apart of the BBUS cookie cutter show

NO ONE could have predicted Shelly would put her key in for Rachel, especially after the nasty goodbye message Rachel left her. Unless you're going to speculate that BB forced her to do that or bribed her, you'll have to back off your claim that Rachel winning was predictable. NO ONE could have predicted Jeff would have thrown his clown shoe out of the box resulting in his own eviction. If Jeff had won that POV (which it seemed set up for) then Rachel would have been the one to go. The only key juncture in the game where I may agree with you was Pandora's Box. Yet Rachel still would have won POV, and her ally Jordan would have needed just one vote (Kalia's or Shelly's) to stay in the game. Kalia had a deal with Jordan the entire game that they wouldn't vote each other out and Shelly may have decided to keep Jordan, her favorite HG ever, and evict Adam, whose loyalties were suspect. Jordan still probably would have left but it wasn't a done deal at all.

They weren't planning on bringing Brendon back because they kept the other houseguests in sequester so they were planning on bringing back an evicted HG the whole time. Jeff and Jordan fans voted Brendon back in because he was an ally of Jeff and they knew he was a bigger target than Jeff.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva

They weren't planning on bringing Brendon back because they kept the other houseguests in sequester so they were planning on bringing back an evicted HG the whole time. Jeff and Jordan fans voted Brendon back in because he was an ally of Jeff and they knew he was a bigger target than Jeff.

When the America's Choice is usually Week 3 and it gets pushed back to Week 4 this year, obviously it was to bring a veteran back into the game.

[US Nacho]

This is a tough one for me to answer. I see positives and negatives in each format.

I think generally speaking, the UK version does a better job of picking more interesting housemates. The 8 non-all star housemates in this last US season had the personality of boiled cabbage. I think you could randomly pick people off the street and end up with a better show 99 times out of 100.

I LOVE how the UK version gets put on 7 nights a week and then has BoTS and other shows that spend a lot of time talking about BB. It really feels like (at least from an outsider's perspective) that BB is more widely known and discussed in the UK.

Personally, I enjoy the strategic aspect of the US version way more. In the UK it is seen as a negative if you are thought to be "playing the game" or if you have a gameplan. Since when is it a negative quality to want to do well at things?

I also like how it's possible to remove yourself from the eviction vote by winning a competition, however it has been pretty obvious recently how easy it is for the production staff to stack the odds in favor of selected housemates. Without question, that is a HUGE negative of BB US if you are operating under the assumption that it is a "reality" show. Then again, BB UK has had it's share of blatant manipulation through editing as well. Actually, now that I think about it, BB AU was pretty bad about this too. I suppose it's too much to ask to have a true reality show that hasn't been edited to show someone's idea of what reality should be.

I do like how the UK version allows you more potential to see the real personalities of the housemates. In the US version they are almost always playing the game, and while, as I said above, I don't think that's a bad thing, there is definitely something to be said for just observing the social aspect of the situation.

Obviously the down side of the US version is that it's entirely possible for the "wrong" person to win. At least with the UK version, the majority of the viewers will be happy with the outcome. In the US, it's possible that almost nobody will be happy with the winner. Someone mentioned S6 and one of the last great seasons, and I do agree, but even in that great season, the winner was one of the most disliked housemates in BB history.

I don't know what the perfect BB solution would be like. I do like it when BB UK allows their housemates to talk about discussions. It does have a more US/strategy feel to it, but I can see where, if the public still has 100% control over who goes, all the strategy in the world isn't going to matter. Personally, my favorite series of any BB I've watched was BBUS 8 with Evel Dick and America's housemate. The public had just enough say in that season, by controlling one player's votes/actions that the "right" housemate won while still having tons of gameplay and strategy. Maybe something like that might work for the next series of BB UK.

[starry]

Originally Posted by US Nacho

I think generally speaking, the UK version does a better job of picking more interesting housemates.

Not this year, it was a crap selection. And on top of that they are just presented as caricatures in a comedy anyway.

Originally Posted by US Nacho

It really feels like (at least from an outsider's perspective) that BB is more widely known and discussed in the UK.

Less so than it used to be.

Originally Posted by US Nacho

Personally, I enjoy the strategic aspect of the US version way more. In the UK it is seen as a negative if you are thought to be "playing the game" or if you have a gameplan.

Not necessarily, Victor was appreciated for instance. But too many of the gameplayers have no originality, and the show is just presented as a comedy where all the HMs are just a joke anyway.

Originally Posted by US Nacho

I also like how it's possible to remove yourself from the eviction vote by winning a competition, however it has been pretty obvious recently how easy it is for the production staff to stack the odds in favor of selected housemates. Without question, that is a HUGE negative of BB US if you are operating under the assumption that it is a "reality" show. Then again, BB UK has had it's share of blatant manipulation through editing as well. Actually, now that I think about it, BB AU was pretty bad about this too. I suppose it's too much to ask to have a true reality show that hasn't been edited to show someone's idea of what reality should be.

It's never been a show completely about 'reality'. However reduce it to caricature like the British version has become and it just looks trash.

Originally Posted by US Nacho

I do like how the UK version allows you more potential to see the real personalities of the housemates. In the US version they are almost always playing the game, and while, as I said above, I don't think that's a bad thing, there is definitely something to be said for just observing the social aspect of the situation.

I think there is some social aspect to the American version. And the British version is not interested in real personalities, it didn't pick people that are that complex this year, and as in every year it just presents them as caricatures.

Originally Posted by US Nacho

Obviously the down side of the US version is that it's entirely possible for the "wrong" person to win. At least with the UK version, the majority of the viewers will be happy with the outcome. In the US, it's possible that almost nobody will be happy with the winner.

You'll never please everyone with the winner in whatever version. There have been winners in the British version who most of the audience might not have liked that much and certainly wanted their other favourites to win more. Also remember not all those who watch vote, most people probably don't vote. And the show is surely about the series as a whole and not simply who is the last one.

Originally Posted by US Nacho

I don't know what the perfect BB solution would be like. I do like it when BB UK allows their housemates to talk about discussions. It does have a more US/strategy feel to it, but I can see where, if the public still has 100% control over who goes, all the strategy in the world isn't going to matter.

There is strategy in both versions. And though they can't discuss nominations in the British one they can still heavily influence indirectly by saying to someone they like or dislike this HM or that group etc.

[starry]

Originally Posted by US Nacho

I also like how it's possible to remove yourself from the eviction vote by winning a competition

I forgot to say that they actually did this in the 10th (previous) series of the British version, unfortunately they scrapped it in this latest and I think weaker series.

[luminoussun]

I like the usa version better.
The head of house is great and the food is done better.Plus i like veto too and the drama it brings.
But i like our way of nominating more.I think a mix would be perfect.Say if the hoh was imune and put 1 housmate up for eviction and everyone else voted like normal and vote 2 more.so 3 are up and the audience save 1 and then the house evicts 1 out of the 2 left.
I am fed up of uk housemates bum licking eachother for the whole show in fear of looking bad on the outside.This way they will be forced to play the game a bit more.

[reece(:]

and atleast the usa has live feed with 4 different cameras which shows all the unedited stuff

[oopsimawesome]

I also live in the states and discovered BBUK online last year right after the US season ended. I started with UK11 and was like WTF is going on here?! I then tore through the entire UK series in 9 months. BBUS pales in comparison to the UK version. Really, all they do in the US is backstab, lie, and manipulate their way to the final. (Aaron would have been a great fit for the US version) Davina has more charisma in her pinky finger than the US host Julie Chenbot does. Julie just reads the teleprompter and her delivery is as flat as a pancake, Davina on the other hand was invested and interested in what was going on. In the UK the tasks are better, the housemates are more enjoyable, there are moments and relationships that form, build, and grow whereas in US they would sell their best friend in the house or their own mom down the river to get the half million. I can name at least 5 housemates from each UK season, yet I can't name 2 people from each season of the US version. Hell, I can't even remember who was on it last summer, it's so forgettable. I'm beyond thankful to have found BBUK, I absolutely adore it and hope it stays on longer than next year. Either way I'm making plans to come to the UK in the summer and partake in a live eviction.

[Liberty4eva]

Like I said before, can anyone direct me to an episode or segment of BBUK that is as interesting as the one I posted?

And I think that Julie Chin's personality (or lack of one) goes in with the theme of the show that we are all spectators in an experiment whose conclusion is uncertain. It's trying to be more like a documentary and if Julie was all bubbly and shouty like Divina it wouldn't fit.

Probably my fav housemate from BBUK is Nikki but she wasn't quite as interesting as the evil Dr. Will, Janelle, or Evel Dick.

[Liberty4eva]

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Found a fun video of Season 13. Post any tribute vids for BBUK this year.

[Kerry]

UK for me. Though TBF I'm a creature of habit and prefer what I know

[iRyan]

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva

Like I said before, can anyone direct me to an episode or segment of BBUK that is as interesting as the one I posted?

And I think that Julie Chin's personality (or lack of one) goes in with the theme of the show that we are all spectators in an experiment whose conclusion is uncertain. It's trying to be more like a documentary and if Julie was all bubbly and shouty like Divina it wouldn't fit.

Probably my fav housemate from BBUK is Nikki but she wasn't quite as interesting as the evil Dr. Will, Janelle, or Evel Dick.

Makosi is the best Big Brother housemate ever. She is 10x more complex and interesting than anyone from BBUS. People in the house actually believed she was a mole. You have to watch her season to understand, but here:

Youtube video

And Janelle is the queen, but Nikki > Janelle tbh.

[Liberty4eva]

Originally Posted by iRyan

Makosi is the best Big Brother housemate ever. She is 10x more complex and interesting than anyone from BBUS. People in the house actually believed she was a mole. You have to watch her season to understand, but here:

Youtube video

And Janelle is the queen, but Nikki > Janelle tbh.

Seriously? I doubt there's any way Makosi is more interesting or complex than the evil Dr. Will.

In season 2 Dr. Will basically told every houseguest, to their face, that he was a bad guy and would stab them in the back, in the front, stab them wherever he could, he told people not to trust him and he found a way to make it to the end and win the whole game.

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[Roy Mars III]

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva

Seriously? I doubt there's any way Makosi is more interesting or complex than the evil Dr. Will.

In season 2 Dr. Will basically told every houseguest, to their face, that he was a bad guy and would stab them in the back, in the front, stab them wherever he could, he told people not to trust him and he found a way to make it to the end and win the whole game.

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[SoBig]

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva

Seriously? I doubt there's any way Makosi is more interesting or complex than the evil Dr. Will.

In season 2 Dr. Will basically told every houseguest, to their face, that he was a bad guy and would stab them in the back, in the front, stab them wherever he could, he told people not to trust him and he found a way to make it to the end and win the whole game.

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Dr. Will was awesome. He used to come up with some of the most unbelievable lies and they would believe every word he said.

[Gemmachi]

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva

Seriously? I doubt there's any way Makosi is more interesting or complex than the evil Dr. Will.

In season 2 Dr. Will basically told every houseguest, to their face, that he was a bad guy and would stab them in the back, in the front, stab them wherever he could, he told people not to trust him and he found a way to make it to the end and win the whole game.

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Did you watch BB6? As someone who's watched that series and both of the BBUS seasons Will was on, I don't think there's much of a contest. Dr. Will was interesting too but Makosi is miles ahead of him in terms of being an entertaining character. That's not at all a dig at him, it's just a testament to how interesting and complex Makosi was.

[BB_Fan_09]

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[Roy Mars III]

Dr. Will convincing everybody that Marcellus took the money and the prizes in the task in season 7 is one of the best moments in Big Brother history.

[rk3388]

Us> UK
UK is NOT personality contest anynmore, its a contest who can act nice the longest.