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What even if it sets off other nations firing Nukes?
Like a WW3 etc.
we allowed the eqyptians, the israelis, the saudis and many more all these weapons, the yanks sold £44 billion worth of weapons last year (41% of the worlds total) much to dictators, unstable nations and unstable leaders. so the americans are also responsible, so no doubt are we as we follow behind the yanks like lovesick poodles. this is a disaster looming built on the very worst human characteristics of sloth and greed.

By the way , while we are on the subject of Israel, when the british under balfour , set up the israel state, did it occur to them, it may have worked out better if the world had found a better more peaceful piece of land for the Jews. Did they not foreseee that returning them to this land 2000 years later to reclaim it, may cause a bit of bother?
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so if Israel nukes Iran, could this spread here? it sounds very dangerous

Yes as China backs Iran rights
Russia backs Irans rights.

It all depends on how many Nukes they fire in one go
before any other nation says No and gets their Nukes firing.
Let alone Iran who could have nukes ready to fire - if attacked.
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By the way , while we are on the subject of Israel, when the british under balfour , set up the israel state, did it occur to them, it may have worked out better if the world had found a better more peaceful piece of land for the Jews. Did they not foreseee that returning them to this land 2000 years later to reclaim it, may cause a bit of bother?

like where? antarctica? Obviously they created Israel where it is because that's where the jews came from originally.
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like where? antarctica? Obviously they created Israel where it is because that's where the jews came from originally.
Reminds me of the Big Bang Theory when Sheldon decided he could end the Middle East crisis by building Jerusalem 2 for the Jews in Mexico.

The only way that the mess is ever going to be solved is for people on both sides to stop fighting, try to acknowledge that other people have a viewpoint and do their best to resolve things and get along. Until that time, they're just going to keep fighting. We're all such a long time dead, it seems so stupid to fill the life you have with so much hate.
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Reminds me of the Big Bang Theory when Sheldon decided he could end the Middle East crisis by building Jerusalem 2 for the Jews in Mexico.

The only way that the mess is ever going to be solved is for people on both sides to stop fighting, try to acknowledge that other people have a viewpoint and do their best to resolve things and get along. Until that time, they're just going to keep fighting. We're all such a long time dead, it seems so stupid to fill the life you have with so much hate.
So Satan won't be buying a new pair of Ice skates any time soon...!!!!
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So Satan won't be buying a new pair of Ice skates any time soon...!!!!
Sadly... no.
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like where? antarctica? Obviously they created Israel where it is because that's where the jews came from originally.
the jews were wandering tribes. that land was also called palestine. to give the land back to the alleged co owners 2000 years ago, is the equivalent of giving up your london home back to the romans or the vikings today, can you imagine, your £500,000 3 bedroom family home in london, ok time to give it back to julius cesaers great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great grandson? that doesnt sound crazy to you?

The whole idea was insane from the start and doomed to failure. But it was deliberately designed this way. balfour and co, wanted an unstable middle east and they wanted to put a nation there that they could contrrol and use to control the middle east. anyone who questioned it was of course wrongly labelled a racist. ironically a vast number of jewish people were against it. a lot of jewish people are not zionists.

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comparing palestine when Israel was created to London sounds crazy to me. The Palestinians were and are still very primitaive, infact Israel created the modern metropolises there now, they created the successful modern society there now. so comparing it to London being returned to the Romans is ridiculous.

Israel has created a modern western style democracy there. Israel has created a huge economy. To give it back to the Palestinians now would be like returning London to the Romans. That's a much more appropriate comparison. It would be like returning California to the Mexicans.

The Truth do you think that Australia should be given back to the Aboriginals? Do you think the USA should be given back to the American Indians? how would you even define Native american or aboriginal anymore anyway? ISn't everyone born to that land just as entitled to it? no matter what their skin color?

The ISraeli's there now, most of them were born there, spent lifetimes there, so it is their land.
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comparing palestine when Israel was created to London sounds crazy to me. The Palestinians were and are still very primitaive, infact Israel created the modern metropolises there now, they created the successful modern society there now. so comparing it to London being returned to the Romans is ridiculous.

Israel has created a modern western style democracy there. Israel has created a huge economy. To give it back to the Palestinians now would be like returning London to the Romans. That's a much more appropriate comparison. It would be like returning California to the Mexicans.

The Truth do you think that Australia should be given back to the Aboriginals?
give your house back to the bris who owned it 300 years ago. then Ill give mine back to the vikings or the romans. that makes it all fair and equal? insanity. it was always doomed to disaster and thats exactly how its turned out. the jews and arabs were just pawns in the global game.
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give your house back to the bris who owned it 300 years ago. then Ill give mine back to the vikings or the romans. that makes it all fair and equal? insanity. it was always doomed to disaster and thats exactly how its turned out. the jews and arabs were just pawns in the global game.
It's not a disaster though, it's the most successful country in the region. how can you say it's a disaster?
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give your house back to the brits who owned it 300 years ago. then Ill give mine back to the vikings or the romans. that makes it all fair and equal? insanity. it was always doomed to disaster and thats exactly how its turned out. the jews and arabs were just pawns in the global game.
umm, most houses are not 300 years old. that's my point. I live in an apartment complex built in the 70's. It wasn't built by Brits and it wasn't built by Mexicans, and it certainly wasn't built by American Indians. It was built by Americans in America. So if I was to give my house back to who built it, id be giving it back to Americans, not Brits.
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I always thought that Arabs and Jews hate each other so much because they're pretty much the same thing really.
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Yes

But Iran
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Yes? You also think the jews and Arabs are basically the same thing? You shock me Arista.
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if it looks like a duck and it quacks like a duck...
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Yes? You also think the jews and Arabs are basically the same thing? You shock me Arista.

No not the same thing
but Angry at eack other is what I mean


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25th sept is one date


But its changing all the time.
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But its changing all the time.
what are you talking about? you've been spending too much time on ATS.
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Deadline 25th Sept for America.

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"the above poster" what you can't say my name? how long have we seen each other on these forums Arista? and you still won't even say my name? That's just rude. seriously. My name is ALEX just incase you are confused.
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arista, Israel is just doing this because the world isn't paying attention to them. And don't believe Fox News or CNN. They only care for sensationalism. This is mostly all 24/7 news stations in America, they do it for the sensationalism. I watch the national news, it would be the opening story for NBC,ABC,CBS News. It isn't.
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arista, Israel is just doing this because the world isn't paying attention to them. And don't believe Fox News or CNN. They only care for sensationalism. This is mostly all 24/7 news stations in America, they do it for the sensationalism. I watch the national news, it would be the opening story for NBC,ABC,CBS News. It isn't.

Yes I know
Israel are Angry
they feel Iran is going to Nuke Them
and say the have the right to prevent it.



It was on NBC
as a talking point



Of course FoxNews is not to be trusted 100%
But CNN America is.
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