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Old 10-11-2012, 06:26 PM #1
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George Entwistle admitted he did not know about the Newsnight investigation until the day after it was broadcast and had not seen newspaper reports casting doubts on the probe.

The BBC boss said he had also been unaware of a tweet 12 hours before the programme aired, from the Bureau of Investigative Journalism - which worked on the report - suggesting it was going to identify a senior political figure.

"I didn't see that tweet. This tweet was not brought to my attention so I found out about this film after it had gone out," he told the BBC's Today programme.
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"BBC Director-General George Entwistle Resigns"



Tim Davie takes over as Acting General of the BBC.

"Presenters including J. Paxman had refused
to front last Friday’s Newsnight
which apologised for the previous
week’s broadcast, a source said. "
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as Newsnight was featured on the ITV Docu
and last week Newsnight made another error.
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Lightbulb George Entwistle: The Cameron Connection

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David Cameron may try to distance himself from the scandal engulfing the BBC, but it has brought him embarrassment close to home.

For it was his best friend, the Eton- and Oxford-educated headhunter Dominic Loehnis, who recruited George Entwistle to be director general of the BBC. Cameron was best man at Loehnis's wedding and Loehnis attended Cameron's 44th birthday party at Chequers in 2010. Loehnis ran the recruitment process at headhunters Egon Zehnder, and provided the BBC Trust with a list of candidates, including "advice about the suitability of each candidate". As Entwistle has shown himself to be unsuitable for the job, shouldn't Egon Zehnder give its fees back? After all, they charge enough. It wasn't much of a hunt, either, as Entwistle was BBC head of vision when found. Since 2010, Egon Zehnder has billed the BBC almost £400,000 plus VAT to fill three senior vacancies – digital media director, head of vision and director general. And two of these posts they filled with … George Entwistle!
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My God this is getting silly,how the hell was Cameron to know these things would happen as far as i know he's not a mind reader,it's all getting a bit desperate to pin all the worlds wrongs on him now,ffs,it's individuals accountable for their actions,not one person to take all the blame,jeezYou sound so smug at the end there as though you've unearthed some great news
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My God this is getting silly,how the hell was Cameron to know these things would happen as far as i know he's not a mind reader,it's all getting a bit desperate to pin all the worlds wrongs on him now,ffs,it's individuals for their actions,not one person to take all the blame,jeezYou sound so smug at the end there as though you've unearthed some great news
Another personal attack from someone who should know better .....
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Ex-BBC Boss In Line For £450,000 Payment

He gets a Years Pay.

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He gets a Years Pay.

http://news.sky.com/story/1010081/ex...450000-payment
This is the trouble you see. A mistake gets made and someone gets named of doing a terrible crime such as paedophelia which is looked upon as more serious than murder and rape these days But then after the mistake gets made, the man responsable gets the option to resign and receive a massive payout. That is ridiculous and should be a crime itself. He gets paid for a year ahead which he is not going to even do a days work for, nevermind a year !! To be honest, he should be fined massively for a blunder such as this and not even have enough money left to own a house or car. Permanently in debt should be his future or anyone else who wrongly accuses someone of this crime. As this crime ruins a persons life forever.
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This is the trouble you see. A mistake gets made and someone gets named of doing a terrible crime such as paedophelia which is looked upon as more serious than murder and rape these days But then after the mistake gets made, the man responsable gets the option to resign and receive a massive payout. That is ridiculous and should be a crime itself. He gets paid for a year ahead which he is not going to even do a days work for, nevermind a year !! To be honest, he should be fined massively for a blunder such as this and not even have enough money left to own a house or car. Permanently in debt should be his future or anyone else who wrongly accuses someone of this crime. As this crime ruins a persons life forever.
Erm, aren't you the one who goes on about innocent until proven guilty, trial by media, gullible public, mob-handed, etc, etc .....

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...59#post5609459

So, sticking up for alleged sex-offenders is OK and so is putting the metaphorical boot into an incompetent but honourable executive .....
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This is the trouble you see. A mistake gets made and someone gets named of doing a terrible crime such as paedophelia which is looked upon as more serious than murder and rape these days But then after the mistake gets made, the man responsable gets the option to resign and receive a massive payout. That is ridiculous and should be a crime itself. He gets paid for a year ahead which he is not going to even do a days work for, nevermind a year !! To be honest, he should be fined massively for a blunder such as this and not even have enough money left to own a house or car. Permanently in debt should be his future or anyone else who wrongly accuses someone of this crime. As this crime ruins a persons life forever.
Erm, aren't you the one who goes on about innocent until proven guilty, trial by media, gullible public, mob-handed, etc, etc .....

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...59#post5609459

So, sticking up for alleged sex-offenders is OK and so is putting the metaphorical boot into an incompetent but honourable executive .....
He has resigned and a man was named who didn't commit that crime. The accused crime being 'paedophelia'. Something that isn't taken lightly these days in a politically correct society where the nanny state rules and the majority of the general public wish to see that person put to death and tortured...get my drift?? So on that note I think that someone or more who causes that to happen should equally be punished and hit them where it hurts and that is with their huge bank balance. But in this case he has been given a golden hand-shake of a years salary which hardly seems fair. It also gives out the wrong signals as more will follow and make false allegations, whether deliberate or accidental.

I am not just accusing this one man either. It's obviously more than just him. But someone has to carry the can, as the BBC is a very big organisation and they need to do something very quick and hope this passes over very quickly unlike the Hutton enquiry and the Phone hacking scandal.
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He has resigned and a man was named who didn't commit that crime. The accused crime being 'paedophelia'. Something that isn't taken lightly these days in a politically correct society where the nanny state rules and the majority of the general public wish to see that person put to death and tortured...get my drift??
The man who named the man who can't be named was the man who was abused by the man who wasn't the man who can't be named but another man who was identified to the man who was abused as a man with the same name as the man who can't be named ..... get my drift??

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So on that note I think that someone or more who causes that to happen should equally be punished and hit them where it hurts and that is with their huge bank balance.
As I understand it, Entwistle didn't cause anything to happen - it was his lack of curiosity and his inaction which enabled others to make disastrous decisions.

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But in this case he has been given a golden hand-shake of a years salary which hardly seems fair. It also gives out the wrong signals as more will follow and make false allegations, whether deliberate or accidental.
How does a golden handshake for Entwistle "give out the wrong signals as more will follow and make false allegations, whether deliberate or accidental"




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I am not just accusing this one man either.
Yes, you are .....

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It's obviously more than just him. But someone has to carry the can, as the BBC is a very big organisation and they need to do something very quick and hope this passes over very quickly unlike the Hutton enquiry and the Phone hacking scandal.
It's not just the BBC and it's not just Entwistle :

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Hours before that evening's edition of Newsnight, the programme's former political editor Michael Crick tweets "'Senior political figure' due to be accused tonight by BBC of being paedophile denies allegations + tells me he'll issue libel writ agst BBC".

He adds that the person - now known to be Lord McAlpine - said he had not been contacted by the BBC for his response to the allegations.

The tweets by Mr Crick, who now works for Channel 4, follow an earlier one made by Iain Overton, editor of the Bureau of Investigative Journalism whose reporter Angus Stickler led the Newsnight investigation.

In a now deleted post, which has been retweeted 1,574 times, Mr Overton writes: "If all goes well we've got a Newsnight out tonight about a very senior political figure who is a paedophile."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20286848

You are aware, of course, that other events have happened at the BBC and Helen Boaden, director of news and Steve Mitchell, deputy director of news and head of news programmes have "stepped aside" while enquiries are ongoing, a process which will take some weeks, at least ..... and a new DG has to be found, too .....
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He'll walk into another job within the month .....
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Post George Entwistle: Caroline Thomson is a favourite for next DG

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Caroline Thomson has emerged as one of the bookies' favourites to replace George Entwistle who has resigned as director general of the BBC.

The corporation's former chief operating officer left her post in September after failing to nail the top job in July.

Ladbrokes is offering 5/2 odds on Ms Thomson, while Paddypower has offered even-odds on Ofcom boss Ed Richards.

Tim Davie has been appointed as acting director general.

The director of BBC Audio and Music is close behind Mr Richards on odds of 2-1, with director of news Helen Boaden and Danny Cohen, the head of BBC One, also mentioned as possible contenders.
Could a previous loser replace a displaced winner ?

Could Helen Boaden really get promoted?

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Lord Patten, chairman of the BBC Trust said a new director general would be appointed within the next few weeks.

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Lightbulb 'Focus on abuse' amid BBC crisis, urges MP

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The current leadership crisis at the BBC should not overshadow child abuse allegations which sparked it, a former children's minister has said.

Director general George Entwistle quit over Newsnight's reporting of north Wales child abuse and a shelved report on abuse by ex-BBC DJ Jimmy Savile.

But MP Tim Loughton said the media focus on the resignation was "deeply frustrating".

"We really mustn't forget that this is about child abuse," he said.

"This is about vulnerable children and young people, going back many decades, who have been subject to pretty horrific abuse," Mr Loughton said, who was a children's minister until September.

"In the vast majority of cases, it is by ordinary people, people in positions of trust who are there to look after them and singularly failed.

"The real purpose is to root out child abuse that has gone on in the past, bring the perpetrators to book, give the victims some closure and make sure that it's not happening in 2012."
Exactly, all else is mere distraction - responsible adults can look after themselves .....
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BBC News director Helen Boaden and deputy Stephen Mitchell 'step aside'

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Exclamation George Entwistle gets £1.3m pay-off

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Mr Entwistle, who resigned on Saturday night after just 54 days in the job, leaves with a £450,000 lump sum on top of his £877,000 pension pot, which was described as “unjustifiable and unacceptable” by one MP.
A year's salary is more than generous but the equivalent of THREE YEARS SALARY is another example of the way the upper echelons of this country reward themselves like robber barons from taxes on the peasants .....

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Lord Patten insisted yesterday that he would not be resigning, but admitted his job would be on the line if he could not restore people’s “huge trust” in the BBC.

Downing Street said that Lord Patten retained the support of the Prime
Minister, but that position is likely to change if he is criticised by any of the three BBC internal inquiries due to report back in December on Savile and sexual harassment.
Obviously, Patten must now go, but how many MILLIONS will HE get if "asked to resign"

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The Daily Telegraph has learnt that the Newsnight programme of Nov 2, in which a former care home resident wrongly claimed to have been abused by a senior Tory, was approved for transmission by one of the more junior members of the BBC’s 12-man management board.

Although the BBC refused to say who had given the go-ahead for the film, the Telegraph has established that it was one of four executives: Lucy Adams, director of human resources, Zarin Patel, chief financial officer, Peter Johnston, director of BBC Northern Ireland, or Rhodri Talfan Davies, director of BBC Wales.

Government sources said up to five other BBC executives might also have to resign when the findings of the BBC’s internal inquiries were made public.

Helen Boaden, the head of news, her deputy Steve Mitchell, Peter Rippon, the editor of Newsnight, and David Jordan, the head of editorial policy and standards, have already been tainted by last month’s Savile revelations, while Adrian van Klaveren, who approved last week’s Newsnight film as acting head of news, is in the dock over the latest fiasco.
Again, get rid of them by all means, but only give them what a sacked production assistant would get for time served .....

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It has been revealed it was not the Lord, so it begs the question who was it?...
It also raises the questions 'How did so many get it so wrong for so long'?
In high profile cases there is no smoke without fire to be fair, if you are implicated then there is usually a reason... even if that reason is you can be placed at the scene and you share a surname with a named suspect.

On the subject of pensions and the £1.3 'awarded' to Mr Entwhisle, I hope he is one of the last in the long line of dinosaurs at the BBC. He and Patten must understand with great power comes great responsibility...
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The spending watchdog is to investigate the £450,000 pay-off – equivalent to a full year’s salary – given to George Entwistle after he resigned as BBC director-general after serving just 54 days in the post.

The National Audit Office (NAO) confirmed today that it would question the BBC Trust about the payment which has been condemned across the political spectrum.

Under the terms of Mr Entwistle’s contract, he was entitled to only six months' pay, but the BBC Trust said the extra payment had been agreed to reflect continuing involvement with internal inquiries underway.

As MPs lined up to denounce the move as a reward for failure, Maria Miller, the Culture Secretary, told them that the watchdog was empowered to carry out a value-for-money investigation of the use of any public funds. Last night a spokesman for the NAO said: “There is no doubt we will be talking to the BBC Trust about this.”


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as she watched STRICTLY COME DANCING

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Failed director general George Entwistle's 'obscene' £450,000 pay-off was signed off by a BBC Trust boss as she watched Strictly Come Dancing, it has been revealed.

Lord Patten telephoned his deputy Diana Coyle during the hit show on Saturday evening and they agreed that Entwistle should get double what he was entitled to if he did the 'honourable' thing and quit.

After the £1.3m deal was done, which also included a £877,000 pension pot, Ms Coyle went back to watching dancers like Denise Van Outen, Fern Britton, Kimberley Walsh, Michael Vaughan and Louis Smith, the BBC Trust confirmed to MailOnline.
After much consideration ..... ..... well, not really .....
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BBC staff handed twitter ban: Acting news boss pleads with unhappy workers to stay silent over abuse row

Heads of television, radio and news and the corporation's director general are all 'acting'
Temporary head of BBC news has asked staff not to Tweet 'our problems'
BBC veterans fear the situation will lead to further uncertainty and shelve decisions needed to reform culture
Acting director general Tim Davie says after a day in the job he already 'has a grip' on crisis
MacQuarrie report says nobody knew who was in charge so Davie has installed a chain of command


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BBC staff handed twitter ban: Acting news boss pleads with unhappy workers to stay silent over abuse row

Heads of television, radio and news and the corporation's director general are all 'acting'
Temporary head of BBC news has asked staff not to Tweet 'our problems'
BBC veterans fear the situation will lead to further uncertainty and shelve decisions needed to reform culture
Acting director general Tim Davie says after a day in the job he already 'has a grip' on crisis
MacQuarrie report says nobody knew who was in charge so Davie has installed a chain of command


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2C7rPuX7Z
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Has the BBC finally reached its sell by date, scandal after scandal allegations of Paedophile rings, corruption almost endemic, huge fat cat salaries and a massive licence fee all combine to make me wonder if the world has moved on leaving the BBC as an anachronism, a relic of days gone by.

Maybe better to break it up and sell it off to private companies...??
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