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I really don't understand those who are pro-abortion and yet say that the ones who use abortion as 'contraception' are 'beyond sickening'. If you don't believe that a fetus is a life, does it really matter what circumstances they fall under?

Euthanasia is fine but I really don't like the idea of abortion at all. A life is a life, regardless of how undeveloped it is...
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I really don't understand those who are pro-abortion and yet say that the ones who use abortion as 'contraception' are 'beyond sickening'. If you don't believe that a fetus is a life, does it really matter what circumstances they fall under?

Euthanasia is fine but I really don't like the idea of abortion at all. A life is a life, regardless of how undeveloped it is...
It's not though. For a long while it's just a collection of cells. How far do you go back? To the moment of conception?
 
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I'm pro both abortion and euthanasia, I struggle with my views on abortion sometimes but on the whole I'm pro-choice.

Definitely for euthanasia though, it's nobody else's choice but your own as to what you want to do with your life and if you want to end it.

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It seems very wrong when you look at it like that sheriff , I personally am against abortion except in certain circumstances, even then I struggle, as for euthanasia I suppose that is for an individual to do if they wish although that doesn't sit with me well either, to me life is sacred ,we are lucky to have it , but I say that as a healthy happy human being , I know some people are desperate and disabled so for them either of those options maybe the right thing , but it does seem so wrong that you can terminate a baby but not yourself.
But to other people it's not, and the 'sacred' view of some shouldn't be forced upon others preventing them from terminating their life when they wish (I'm not saying you in particular forcing the sacred view, just making the point in general ).

I happen to think life is pointless, but that doesn't mean I don't, can't or won't enjoy it, but for others that's just not the case - and I have heard stories of people killing themselves because they see no point to life - and I know this is going a little off-topic here, but to be quite honest that's their prerogative. Sad, yes, but their choice. With euthanasia in particular I really do not see why someone that is suffering should have to prolong their life for the sake of some outdated religiously influenced laws, amongst other reasons of course. It's their life, it's their choice.
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Personally, I think that abortion is perfectly legal as it's a woman exercising control over what happens with her body. It's really a matter for each woman to decide individually and I don't really think that men should stick their noses in the matter at any point, seeing as we won't ever be able to comprehend the feelings and stress of pregnancy, let alone an unwanted one.

Euthanasia however is a different thing entirely, and I don't necessarily think you can equate the abortion of a foetus - which is incapable of higher conscious thought - with that of an adult human being. If someone is in immense pain on a daily basis or something thereof, and simply doesn't want to feel that anymore, then who are we stop that person from wanting to end their suffering if that their wish? It's a highly emotive issue sure, but I don't think it's something that should be illegal. Euthanasia should be perfectly legal under the NHS really, but obviously with extensive evaluation carried out beforehand before they let the person pass on. I just don't think that someone should be forever imprisoned in their body if they truly can't stand it anymore.
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Just a little thing that irks me is ,in euthanasia most people have a choice,in abortion the the fetus has none.
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Just a little thing that irks me is ,in euthanasia most people have a choice,in abortion the the fetus has none.
Probably because it's a fetus, and as such lives and grows inside another human being, that it relies on for food and protection.

Cancer is a living thing that grows inside us. Should we seek out an opinion from cancer about whether it wants to live or be nuked, before treatment starts?

What if the pregnancy came from rape or incest? Would the fetus still be carried to term because it doesn't have the option of saying "terminate me"?
 
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Just a little thing that irks me is ,in euthanasia most people have a choice,in abortion the the fetus has none.
But foetus can't think or feel. Someone who's in constant pain is quite another thin entirely. The constant torture that must cause (physical and mental) is completely different to the termination of a pregnancy wherein the foetus cannot feel or think about what's happening. You just can't compare the two in my opinion.
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But foetus can't think or feel. Someone who's in constant pain is quite another thin entirely. The constant torture that must cause (physical and mental) is completely different to the termination of a pregnancy wherein the foetus cannot feel or think about what's happening. You just can't compare the two in my opinion.
I know that,it's just something that I feel,and are we REALLY sure a fetus cant feel pain?
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I am in favor of abortion.

If I got pregnant and felt unready I would have an abortion.
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Just a little thing that irks me is ,in euthanasia most people have a choice,in abortion the the fetus has none.
and a fetus doesn't have a brain, so how could it make any kind of choice? You know who does have a choice? that guy that sticks his dick into a pussy, that's who has a choice. but guess what, kids ******. It happens.

Boys and girls make irresponsible decisions. Do you really want more babies born to 15 or 16 y/o kids?

I don't.
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and a fetus doesn't have a brain, so how could it make any kind of choice? You know who does have a choice? that guy that sticks his dick into a pussy, that's who has a choice.
Just like the woman who lets him.
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Just like the woman who lets him.
That could bring up a whole other subject, sometimes pregnancy is from rape.
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and a fetus doesn't have a brain, so how could it make any kind of choice? You know who does have a choice? that guy that sticks his dick into a pussy, that's who has a choice. but guess what, kids ******. Boys and girls make irresponsible decisions. do you really want more babies born to 15 or 16 y/o kids?

I don't.
Some abortions do have brains,and I never said I didn't agree with it in some circumstances but I do feel uneasy about it,which is my problem ,so calm down.
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Some abortions do have brains,and I never said I didn't agree with it in some circumstances but I do feel uneasy about it,which is my problem ,so calm down.
don't feel uneasy about it. Fetuses are NOT people. The religious right is very successful at preying on your heart strings about this issue, but fetuses are NOT people, they don't have thoughts, they don't have feelings, they have less brain activity than a chicken.

Do you eat chickens? are you a vegetarian?

stop letting the religious zealots manipulate you.
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That could bring up a whole other subject, sometimes pregnancy is from rape.
Yes but I'm not talking about rape, I'm talking about two people who decide to sleep together.
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I really don't understand those who are pro-abortion and yet say that the ones who use abortion as 'contraception' are 'beyond sickening'. If you don't believe that a fetus is a life, does it really matter what circumstances they fall under?
Euthanasia is fine but I really don't like the idea of abortion at all. A life is a life, regardless of how undeveloped it is...
well yes for instance if the foetus is not developing normally and is putting the mothers life at risk, rape, incest, there are all sorts of reasons that abortion is the only choice, however, there is never a case for using abortion as a form of contraception, and believe me it happens, when there are so many ways of protecting against an unwanted pregnancy.
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don't feel uneasy about it. Fetuses are NOT people. The religious right is very successful at preying on your heart strings about this issue, but fetuses are NOT people, they don't have thoughts, they don't have feelings, they have less brain activity than a chicken.

Do you eat chickens? are you a vegetarian?

stop letting the religious zealots manipulate you.
Yes,been a veggie for some time
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well you think you are, sorry, but those carrots you've been eating are 20% horse meat lol
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That wouldn't surprise me
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a fetus is not a life, it's just a growth, a parasite. That's my opinion.

A life becomes a life when it is capable of sustaining itself outside of the mother's body.

As long as it is reliant on the mother's body, it is part of the mother's body, it is not an independent life. It is just a growth on the mother's body and a woman should have complete control and decision making over her own body. If it was possible to transfer that growth to the father, then i think absolutely he should have the choice to take on that growth, but since that's not possible, all decisions should be with the mother/host.

Maybe some day it will be possible for men to carry children, but until that day comes, they have no right to tell women what to do with their bodies. If they don't like it then they should've worn a condom. period.

utter rubbish....a child is alive and often survives past 24 weeks. thats a living breathing life. as for you tunring it into yet more hetro male hating , over 50% of these babies murdered are female and no doubt lots are gay too. yet you preach from on high these parasites deserve to die. thats sick.
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