[Livia]

Originally Posted by Jack_

The thought of a Tory and UKIP coalition makes me want to emigrate

Yeah, I know what what you mean. Not what you'd call an ideal situation for most but I can see it being thought about as a solution, especially by the Conservatives, and I think UKIP would jump at the chance of replacing the LibDems as 'the bridesmaid'.

[Redway]

Labour, I hope. Not because I particularly agree with their politics but they're the only party who seem to be able to get us out of this recession

[Vanessa]

I agree. I don't like conservative.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I agree. I don't like conservative.

Not with David Cameron as leader, no...

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Redway

Labour, I hope. Not because I particularly agree with their politics but they're the only party who seem to be able to get us out of this recession

Although you could say that Labour were instrumental in getting into a recession.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Redway

Not with David Cameron as leader, no...

I know people don't like Ed Miliband that much but I think David Cameron is actually a handicap to the Conservatives now.

He promised a referendum on the Lisbon treaty, now I would be the first to say he was right to drop that idea because when he came to power it was aready in place.
However to a great number of voters he backtracked on that and it is held against him by them.

He gave his word there would be no full reforming of the NHS in this parliament, he broke that word and badly too.
He has backtracked and done u turn on so many policies, made really bad judgements of people he chooses to be around him that people see him as not to be trusted.

WE recently had a double dip recession all of this Govts making because it didn't nurture the fragile recovery in place when it took power and also take steps to keep growth, any growth going.
Only this Govt caused that and it accused Labour in 2010 of having policies that would bring about a double dip recession when in fact it is this Govt that managed that and still has us looking over our shoulder at a possible triple dip recession too.

He is not believed as to Europe,few really believe he would hold a referendum of an in/out nature if he got an overall majority in 2015,in fact his arrogance at saying he will re-negotiate a better deal and hold a referendum 'if' he is given an overall majority only builds more suspicion of him.
He could have now in these next 18 months to 2 years tried to re-negotiate a better deal and hold a referendum on election day 2015.
Why condition it to the voters giving him an overall majority first.

If voters really want a referendum of an in/out nature,then they should vote UKIP as they are the only ones who would ensure one was held, the Conservatives have never held a referendum as to Europe, as to taking us into the common market in the first place, or for any treaty they have signed in their time in power too.
Only the Labour party has ever held a referendum on Europe as to staying in or coming out in 1975.

For the Conservatives, David Cameron is now likely a bigger problem as to the voters than he was in 2010, the easiest election ever that should have been for an opposition party to win outright,yet, the voters wouldn't trust David Cameron denying him by a near 20 seats an overall majority.

After his savage and heartless reforms that are causing massive distress and worry to the genuine sick, disabled and most vulnerable in society, after his misleading the voters as to no full reform of the NHS too,I cannot see anyone who felt they couldn't vote Conservative in 2010 now doing so in 2015.
Not a chance in my view.

He will though be coming to the country in 2015, after failing on just about all of his targets to say he needs another 4 years at least to do the same again.
What arrogance,I have little doubt and lots of hope that his answer from the voters will be a much more resounding no in 2015 than the cautious maybe he got in 2010.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I know people don't like Ed Miliband that much but I think David Cameron is actually a handicap to the Conservatives now.

He promised a referendum on the Lisbon treaty, now I would be the first to say he was right to drop that idea because when he came to power it was aready in place.
However to a great number of voters he backtracked on that and it is held against him by them.

He gave his word there would be no full reforming of the NHS in this parliament, he broke that word and badly too.
He has backtracked and done u turn on so many policies, made really bad judgements of people he chooses to be around him that people see him as not to be trusted.

WE recently had a double dip recession all of this Govts making because it didn't nurture the fragile recovery in place when it took power and also take steps to keep growth, any growth going.
Only this Govt caused that and it accused Labour in 2010 of having policies that would bring about a double dip recession when in fact it is this Govt that managed that and still has us looking over our shoulder at a possible triple dip recession too.

He is not believed as to Europe,few really believe he would hold a referendum of an in/out nature if he got an overall majority in 2015,in fact his arrogance at saying he will re-negotiate a better deal and hold a referendum 'if' he is given an overall majority only builds more suspicion of him.
He could have now in these next 18 months to 2 years tried to re-negotiate a better deal and hold a referendum on election day 2015.
Why condition it to the voters giving him an overall majority first.

If voters really want a referendum of an in/out nature,then they should vote UKIP as they are the only ones who would ensure one was held, the Conservatives have never held a referendum as to Europe, as to taking us into the common market in the first place, or for any treaty they have signed in their time in power too.
Only the Labour party has ever held a referendum on Europe as to staying in or coming out in 1975.

For the Conservatives, David Cameron is now likely a bigger problem as to the voters than he was in 2010, the easiest election ever that should have been for an opposition party to win outright,yet, the voters wouldn't trust David Cameron denying him by a near 20 seats an overall majority.

After his savage and heartless reforms that are causing massive distress and worry to the genuine sick, disabled and most vulnerable in society, after his misleading the voters as to no full reform of the NHS too,I cannot see anyone who felt they couldn't vote Conservative in 2010 now doing so in 2015.
Not a chance in my view.

He will though be coming to the country in 2015, after failing on just about all of his targets to say he needs another 4 years at least to do the same again.
What arrogance,I have little doubt and lots of hope that his answer from the voters will be a much more resounding no in 2015 than the cautious maybe he got in 2010.

In a bit of a rush right now so I haven't actually had a look at that in detail but should be a great read when I'm more able.