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BB14 Channel 5's Big Brother: Secrets and Lies (aka Big Brother 14) started June 13th 2013 and was won by Sam Evans.

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View Poll Results: Vote to evict. Yes or No?
Yes, vote to evict is a better way to determine evictions on BB 22 26.83%
Yes, vote to evict is a better way to determine evictions on BB
22 26.83%
No, vote to save was a better way to determine evictions on BB 37 45.12%
No, vote to save was a better way to determine evictions on BB
37 45.12%
Donīt care either way/Both are good/okay for me 23 28.05%
Donīt care either way/Both are good/okay for me
23 28.05%
Neither are good, so i would like some other way to determine evictions on BB 0 0%
Neither are good, so i would like some other way to determine evictions on BB
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Old 12-06-2013, 12:37 AM #51
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If the majority of bigger personality's on 5's BB had been saved, then I'd feel more angry. But Victoria, Chris, Benedict, Heaven, Rebeckah and so on going shows that sometimes the result wouldn't have been different with a vote to evict in place...
Those "bigger personalities" you listed really aren't that big.

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I'm not too bothered. The entertaining housemates can still survive vote to evicts if they're also likeable enough (See Rex, Freddie, Marcus, etc).

It's just the bitchy women we'll get rid of now, which pretty much continued to happen with a vote to save anyway
lol @ any of those people being likable. You're right about the "bitchy" women getting screwed with this but to be fair the public's sexist as a whole so women never really stood a chance.

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-KK And Michael Would have been evicted instead of kirk and natalie
-Speidi would have been evicted over Paula/Gillian etc
- In BB12, Aaron would probably have been evicted at some point


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Speidi and Aaron going would've worth it so perhaps VTE will work out fine.

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Charlie/Rodrigo/Sophie/David were all awful...
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BB10's final was awful, just not as awful as BB11's. It should've been made up of Marcus, Freddie, Siavash, Bea (and I hated the ****ing bitch) and Noirin.
eek that'd be even worse than BB11





Anyways, to answer the question I don't really think it matters. Switching to vote to save didn't even change much, people are always going to complain "well if there was a better voting system <"big character" aka huge boring asshole> would've stayed" so no matter what voting system we get people are going to bitch because it'll never go according to plan.
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I just disagreed with everything you just said there
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I prefer vote to evict. It generates more edge towards an eviction as everyone tries to get their least favourite out. I find people are more passionate with evictions when getting to vote out rather than save.
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I prefer vote to evict. It generates more edge towards an eviction as everyone tries to get their least favourite out. I find people are more passionate with evictions when getting to vote out rather than save.
basically you're saying Hate > Love.

It's a fair point.
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Yep. People tend to vote more and talk more about who they want to oust. Vote to evict sometimes backfires and a good housemate goes, but it's so much better when you want a housemate out and they go and your vote to evict helped see them out the door.
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Vote to Evict sucks, all the entertaining housemates will be booted out & the final will be a dull dull dull.
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Maybe the producers shouldn't pick dull housemates to start with?
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I don't think the vote to save or evict is that much difference because most of the big personalities were voted out of BB12 early, kind of the same in BB13.
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Hmmm, sometimes. Look at BB5. There were many BIG characters in there who survived for ages/to the final.

I think BB needs to start picking housemates that are not trying to be argumentative, that never really works (look at Charley for example). What they need is people that are not used to being restricted, and they need to take away all these luxuries like sauna, nice foods, gyms etc. The more frustrated, restricted and deprived they are is when we see the sparks truly fly from most people (again look at fight night, it brought out strong traits good and bad in everyone).

Pushing people to their limits is what BB needs in order to get the best from all housemates over the 9 weeks.
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Hmmm, sometimes. Look at BB5. There were many BIG characters in there who survived for ages/to the final.

I think BB needs to start picking housemates that are not trying to be argumentative, that never really works (look at Charley for example). What they need is people that are not used to being restricted, and they need to take away all these luxuries like sauna, nice foods, gyms etc. The more frustrated, restricted and deprived they are is when we see the sparks truly fly from most people (again look at fight night, it brought out strong traits good and bad in everyone).

Pushing people to their limits is what BB needs in order to get the best from all housemates over the 9 weeks.
Absolutely, basically they need to bring in ex-criminals, shahbaz clones and people with medically recognised anger problems
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The public have proven themselves to be completely useless whichever option their given, so either works for me.
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I'm stunned. This has officially killed my anticipation and excitement for the upcoming season. It looked like they were going in the right direction this season and then they pull this crap?! Ugh I'm so annoyed right now.
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it's like the old saying goes... would you rather have sex with 1 horse sized man OR 100 duck-sized men?

It's the age old story.
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It's the age old story.
I think we know my answer to that.
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It's the age old story.
Is this a penis thing? If so, the horse. Not that I'm into animals or anything.
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I'm pleasantly surprised to see that most of us are either pleased or indifferent.

The season will hinge on the casting, not the voting options. There hasn't been a cast I enjoyed since BB10UK, so I'm not optimistic until I see it.
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I personally prefer vote to save if done properly, sadly though Ch5 allowing one on ones like it's still a vote to evict made vote to save pointless.
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come on like vote to save got you LUKE A the most boring housemate ever to win?
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I think it's really a mixed blessing IMO... I believe that the fundamentally the nature of the public vote was always that the viewers have the final say in who is evicted... It's also not as if a vote to evict always results in larger characters leaving either... Personally it's the nomination process that throws the larger characters under the bus...
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