[megamaja40]

I am sick of listening about the daley thing! stop blaming hazel for what happened..he said he had no girlfriend...she appeared and said they loved each other? get a grip everyone she got well paid for pretending to cry and shes the one who took daley from his wife and two boys..it takes two to tango just like theres two sides to every story and BB certainly did not think about that.

BB has incited hatred for hazel and should be ashamed of the treatment she is getting. Obviously they want Gina to win, so really they dont give a s**t what the public thinks because they are influencing the outcome.

If this is what BB is all about then its time to call it a day!

[CaudleHalbard]

To be honest, I don't think anyone gives a toss about Hazel at this stage. Even her friend Dan has said it might be best if she gets evicted... which we can be pretty sure she will be in a week's time.

Hazel can then concentrate on damage limitation and trying to save her career. She's better out than in!

[user104658]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

To be honest, I don't think anyone gives a toss about Hazel at this stage. Even her friend Dan has said it might be best if she gets evicted... which we can be pretty sure she will be in a week's time.

Hazel can then concentrate on damage limitation and trying to save her career. She's better out than in!

I dunnooo... tonight's HL sort of showed a lot of HMs feeling a bit sorry for her, she might avoid nomination (if they keep it "vanilla"... there will probably be some stupid twist or other ).

As for "damage limitation" and "saving her career", I genuinely have no idea why people think any of this is going to do anything other than raise her public profile and help her career. She wants to be a glamor model... guess what? The target audience of glamor models isn't angry, jealous, probably unattractive women who bang on about "girl codes" (Hazel haters).

Like Dexter said (yaaay, some great Hexter action tonight) if you poke your head over the fence, you become a target. She's been noticed. It doesn't matter that a lot of the attention is negative. She'll do fine.

[Scream]

I agree with OP. Hazel seems so genuine and nice. The word jealousy springs to mind

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by Scream

I agree with OP. Hazel seems so genuine and nice. The word jealousy springs to mind

Jealousy? In all honesty I don't find her attractive. I know everyone is supposed to see her as this Irish bombshell but I honestly don't she looks like a drag queen. And even if she was attractive I would more likely fancy her than be jealous. Get her out

[reece(:]

Hazel is an interesting character, everyone just keeps scapegoating their hate upon her for no validated reason... some of the comments I've seen on here have really astounded.

[blue]

i hate hazel can not stand that woman, i wish she would leave already




.

[Marsh.]

I wouldn't quite describe Hazel as "nice". She's definitely a feisty character but the irrational hate that gets heaped on her just makes me support her all the more.

The Hazel/Daley stuff highlights just how bad sexism still is.

[Mick]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

I wouldn't quite describe Hazel as "nice". She's definitely a feisty character but the irrational hate that gets heaped on her just makes me support her all the more.

The Hazel/Daley stuff highlights just how bad sexism still is.

Well said,and i feel likewise.What ever the pros and cons of her time in the safe house it would have been a negative experiance for her to have to deal with.She then gets hit by some of the public voted tasks.The fact that both must have hurt but she has taken them on the chin and kept going does her credit.Faced with a simular double whammy some of the other housemates male and female would not have reacted in such a brave way.

I think the viewing ,voting public do have a sence of fair play on balance and when the next proper evictions come round even if up i do not think Hazel is a certainty to go.

[CaudleHalbard]

I don't particularly like her - she is not someone I'd want to meet, but I too have been slightly taken aback by the level of sheer hatred.

I think a lot of it is coming from women. Well, if the BOTS audience is anything to go by!

[the truth]

unpleasant deluded homewrecker

[Kris]

So not buying her pity me, pouty, I'm so hurt and confused act. I've already seen her evil faces.

[CaudleHalbard]

Hazel's piercing eyes are both her asset and her downfall. They do look truly evil at times.

I can see why people pick up on it.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Hazel's piercing eyes are both her asset and her downfall. They do look truly evil at times.

I can see why people pick up on it.

She paints on her eyebrows at an unnatural angle, slanted downwards, which makes her look evil / intimidating, as a deliberate attempt to convey strength. Probably has done for years. She looks much softer / nicer without makeup on, such as during the task, but note that she also feels uncomfortable and exposed.

Also of note: Daley forcefully stating that he prefers her without it. Probably because without her mask on, he felt more dominant. The whole conversation was way outside her comfort zone.

So yeah... Those "evil eyes" are a trick with makeup that she does deliberately for probably complex reasons. I maintain that she is a MUCH more fascinating character than most of them, because she's not an open book (or a contrived character).

She is desperate to appear strong and really is admirably stoic, as Dexter and a few others picked up on last night, she takes things that are obviously upsetting her squarely on the chin and doesnt throw a hysterical tantrum like the rest of them (bar Dexter) would have by now.

Of course, most other women (and some men) simply do not like strength or assertiveness in women. Certainly not pre-menopausal women, anyway.

That is people's real issue with Hazel and Daley and they probably dont even know it. Charlie / dexter is the same situation but people don't have the same response. why? because Dexter, the male, is the pursuer and Charlie the passive girl giggling away.

With Daley and Hazel - although Daley wad the first to show interest (hand-writing) - hazel was the one pursuing. Too assertive. People can't handle it. because people, it turns out, really are sexist.

And the funny thing is, I didn't believe it until all of this. I've always said that modern feminism is pointless, that there is equality, that these issues are imagined but they're clearly not - the general public is blatantly misogynistic when a female falls outwith their expected role or personality. And do you know what the biggest revelation to me is? it's not men. Men are not the problem. Most men really are "getting there" when it comes to being unsexist and unbiased.

its other women! Women hate women. It's absolutely bizarre.

[kefln]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

She paints on her eyebrows at an unnatural angle, slanted downwards, which makes her look evil / intimidating, as a deliberate attempt to convey strength. Probably has done for years. She looks much softer / nicer without makeup on, such as during the task, but note that she also feels uncomfortable and exposed.

Also of note: Daley forcefully stating that he prefers her without it. Probably because without her mask on, he felt more dominant. The whole conversation was way outside her comfort zone.

So yeah... Those "evil eyes" are a trick with makeup that she does deliberately for probably complex reasons. I maintain that she is a MUCH more fascinating character than most of them, because she's not an open book (or a contrived character).

She is desperate to appear strong and really is admirably stoic, as Dexter and a few others picked up on last night, she takes things that are obviously upsetting her squarely on the chin and doesnt throw a hysterical tantrum like the rest of them (bar Dexter) would have by now.

Of course, most other women (and some men) simply do not like strength or assertiveness in women. Certainly not pre-menopausal women, anyway.

That is people's real issue with Hazel and Daley and they probably dont even know it. Charlie / dexter is the same situation but people don't have the same response. why? because Dexter, the male, is the pursuer and Charlie the passive girl giggling away.

With Daley and Hazel - although Daley wad the first to show interest (hand-writing) - hazel was the one pursuing. Too assertive. People can't handle it. because people, it turns out, really are sexist.

And the funny thing is, I didn't believe it until all of this. I've always said that modern feminism is pointless, that there is equality, that these issues are imagined but they're clearly not - the general public is blatantly misogynistic when a female falls outwith their expected role or personality. And do you know what the biggest revelation to me is? it's not men. Men are not the problem. Most men really are "getting there" when it comes to being unsexist and unbiased.

its other women! Women hate women. It's absolutely bizarre.

+1

Well said. Especially the last point.

[bez87]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

She paints on her eyebrows at an unnatural angle, slanted downwards, which makes her look evil / intimidating, as a deliberate attempt to convey strength. Probably has done for years. She looks much softer / nicer without makeup on, such as during the task, but note that she also feels uncomfortable and exposed.

Also of note: Daley forcefully stating that he prefers her without it. Probably because without her mask on, he felt more dominant. The whole conversation was way outside her comfort zone.

So yeah... Those "evil eyes" are a trick with makeup that she does deliberately for probably complex reasons. I maintain that she is a MUCH more fascinating character than most of them, because she's not an open book (or a contrived character).

She is desperate to appear strong and really is admirably stoic, as Dexter and a few others picked up on last night, she takes things that are obviously upsetting her squarely on the chin and doesnt throw a hysterical tantrum like the rest of them (bar Dexter) would have by now.

Of course, most other women (and some men) simply do not like strength or assertiveness in women. Certainly not pre-menopausal women, anyway.

That is people's real issue with Hazel and Daley and they probably dont even know it. Charlie / dexter is the same situation but people don't have the same response. why? because Dexter, the male, is the pursuer and Charlie the passive girl giggling away.

With Daley and Hazel - although Daley wad the first to show interest (hand-writing) - hazel was the one pursuing. Too assertive. People can't handle it. because people, it turns out, really are sexist.

And the funny thing is, I didn't believe it until all of this. I've always said that modern feminism is pointless, that there is equality, that these issues are imagined but they're clearly not - the general public is blatantly misogynistic when a female falls outwith their expected role or personality. And do you know what the biggest revelation to me is? it's not men. Men are not the problem. Most men really are "getting there" when it comes to being unsexist and unbiased.

its other women! Women hate women. It's absolutely bizarre.

Completely agree with this and they were my feelings to, I find the whole sexiest thing a joke, us men are trying, and women want equal rights but they also want there womens rights to :S crazy, they can't have it both ways, and like you said it's not us men who are causing the trouble or moaning about it's women against women.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by bez87

Completely agree with this and they were my feelings to, I find the whole sexiest thing a joke, us men are trying, and women want equal rights but they also want there womens rights to :S crazy, they can't have it both ways, and like you said it's not us men who are causing the trouble or moaning about it's women against women.

I'm a woman and Hazel's always been my favourite. What's more a lot of the comments that have been made about Hazel on this forum have come from men, calling her a slut, and worse...

And this may come as news to you, but women don't want equal rights, we already have them. Welcome to 2013.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

I'm a woman and Hazel's always been my favourite. What's more a lot of the comments that have been made about Hazel on this forum have come from men, calling her a slut, and worse...

And this may come as news to you, but women don't want equal rights, we already have them. Welcome to 2013.

I know there are a few women on here who are vocally supportive of Hazel and of course there are plenty of men who are idiots and will happily brand her "a "slut" - probably the same sort of men who, if they cheated on their partner - would try to blame a "slut homewrecker" to avoid the blame...

However its pretty undeniable that most of the public "hazel hating", including on here, has come from other females.

It's also females who are quicker to defend the Daley Safehouse incident, just have a glance at YouTube comments on the videos of it.

It's a bit of an obscure phenomenon if you ask me, it seems to be something pretty deep-rooted in our society.

Yes women have equal rights and have done for several years but there clearly is a bias and a sort of subconscious favouritism that still goes on in society at large... Men get away with more, are less likely to be demonized for the same things.

Here's an obvious example: what do you think would have happened if it was Hazel who had a boyfriend, and Daley that was single? Would Daley have been blasted for breaking the "bro code"? Would he be deemed a homewrecker? No probably not. Hazel would still have been branded a slut.

By women.

Theres clearly still a massive imbalance somewhere in society but it has little to do with the attitudes of men.

[bez87]

Originally Posted by Livia

I'm a woman and Hazel's always been my favourite. What's more a lot of the comments that have been made about Hazel on this forum have come from men, calling her a slut, and worse...

And this may come as news to you, but women don't want equal rights, we already have them. Welcome to 2013.

I just found it crazy on bbbots how many women feel so strongly against Hazel, if you have been following this forum throughout the whole Hazel and daley, i've been 100% on Hazels side. I hate this whole thing about her pulling his pants down, and people going well if it was in the work place then, no just stop there, were not in a work place, they were in a safe house yes on national tv but they weren't to know it was completely getting filmed and aired at that moment in time, they were alone, in a dark room and drunk, you can't compare that to if i walked into my place of work and pulled someones pants down lol.

the craziest thing that someone has come up with tho, is this whole Dexter thing, why isn't Dexter getting the same hate, when he actually does have a girlfriend, and how crazy is Emma on wednesday when one of the panel questioned it, and Emma went oooo it's just Dexter being Dexter well it just proves how sexiest we all can be i think

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

She paints on her eyebrows at an unnatural angle, slanted downwards, which makes her look evil / intimidating, as a deliberate attempt to convey strength. Probably has done for years. She looks much softer / nicer without makeup on, such as during the task, but note that she also feels uncomfortable and exposed.

Also of note: Daley forcefully stating that he prefers her without it. Probably because without her mask on, he felt more dominant. The whole conversation was way outside her comfort zone.

So yeah... Those "evil eyes" are a trick with makeup that she does deliberately for probably complex reasons. I maintain that she is a MUCH more fascinating character than most of them, because she's not an open book (or a contrived character).

She is desperate to appear strong and really is admirably stoic, as Dexter and a few others picked up on last night, she takes things that are obviously upsetting her squarely on the chin and doesnt throw a hysterical tantrum like the rest of them (bar Dexter) would have by now.

Of course, most other women (and some men) simply do not like strength or assertiveness in women. Certainly not pre-menopausal women, anyway.

That is people's real issue with Hazel and Daley and they probably dont even know it. Charlie / dexter is the same situation but people don't have the same response. why? because Dexter, the male, is the pursuer and Charlie the passive girl giggling away.

With Daley and Hazel - although Daley wad the first to show interest (hand-writing) - hazel was the one pursuing. Too assertive. People can't handle it. because people, it turns out, really are sexist.

And the funny thing is, I didn't believe it until all of this. I've always said that modern feminism is pointless, that there is equality, that these issues are imagined but they're clearly not - the general public is blatantly misogynistic when a female falls outwith their expected role or personality. And do you know what the biggest revelation to me is? it's not men. Men are not the problem. Most men really are "getting there" when it comes to being unsexist and unbiased.

its other women! Women hate women. It's absolutely bizarre.

Great post.

Hazel is being lined up for a slut shaming - I hate that expression - and most of the public are quite happy with that. Its a disgusting attitude to a strong sexually assertive woman.

[Kizzy]

I bet hazel thought that about daleys eyes as he towered over her?..

[letmein]

After this week, people really need to move on. She got what she deserved this week after what she did prior. After that, as long as she doesn't cock anything else up, give her a second chance. I don't think she's done anything wrong this week.

[Jords]

I no longer acknowledge "Dazel"

[billy123]

I cant be doing with the cold hearted bitch and it has nothing to do with her tendancy to destroy boxers lives.
Just the fact that she has already stated that her appearance on the show is part of a well managed career opportunity is enough for me to label her a cold calculating slut.
If she wants to play the game she has to live by its rules.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by bobnot

I cant be doing with the cold hearted bitch and it has nothing to do with her tendancy to destroy boxers lives.
Just the fact that she has already stated that her appearance on the show is part of a well managed career opportunity is enough for me to label her a cold calculating slut.
If she wants to play the game she has to live by its rules.

Who is/was openly or obviously there for career reasons:

Hazel, Dan, Twins, Dexter, Gina, Charlie, Sallie.

None of the others get the constant scorn that Hazel gets. Again this feels like an excuse.