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BB14 Channel 5's Big Brother: Secrets and Lies (aka Big Brother 14) started June 13th 2013 and was won by Sam Evans.

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View Poll Results: CUCUMBERGATE - whose side are you on?
Charlie 45 33.83%
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Old 28-07-2013, 10:53 PM #1
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What Charlie nearly said indicates she clearly feels Hazel in some way stitched Daley up and got him booted out on spurious claims. I think thats why she took offense.
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Daley Ojuederie BBUK ‏@IamDaleyStar 2h

Just came In and thought let me see what all the fuss is about. @bbuk Charlie having my back. wow that's all I have to say. #BOOM
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Just came In and thought let me see what all the fuss is about. @bbuk Charlie having my back. wow that's all I have to say. #BOOM
Jackie will have a hit out on him within the hour. No way she's going to let association with Daley tarnish her baby's career
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Just came In and thought let me see what all the fuss is about. @bbuk Charlie having my back. wow that's all I have to say. #BOOM
It's not your back people are worried about is it meathead?....
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It will all be forgotton tomorrow. The cucumbers will be all wilted and limp, no morning sunrise from those things and the gurls will just laugh it all off under the duvet, hopefully bb will have a duvet cam so we can see them making up.
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im on the cucombers side....those brutal ladies treated it with contempt forcing him into all sorts of orifices against its will,,,,,,,free all willy shaped fruits and vegetables
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im on the cucombers side....those brutal ladies treated it with contempt forcing him into all sorts of orifices against its will,,,,,,,free all willy shaped fruits and vegetables
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Charlie, hazel for starters pulled the feel sorry for me card again, and was just bitchy about it to be honest
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Hazel started the cucumber fight by persistently shoving it in Charlie's mouth. The fact that Charlie was drunk meant she reacted honestly by trying to get her own back. Hazel did not like this. Hazel is a nasty piece of work.
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The argument itself was pretty stupid but Charlie (once again) put that giant foot in her mouth
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I don't think it would be inaccurate to describe it as aggressive but that doeant have to mean anything awful. She was being really persistent and the actual eye hitting came AFTER hazel asked her to be careful. But, only aggressive in the sense of that "clumsy" way drunk people can get physically... Like when drunk old men pit their arm around your neck a little too tight, or slap you on the back a little too hard. But hazel knows that and was actually very careful NOT to make more of it with big brother, smiling and saying it was fine.

There was really no issue after that, Hazel did say "aggressive" to callum but he agreed that Charlie had been being a bit forceful with it... She was trying to "get her own back" in a slightly aggressive way. Due to being clearly very drunk. it was totally dropped until she said "i know how Daley feels" which was out of order - even Joe looked visibly shocked before Hazel registered what she had said. then she went on to deny it and claimed she had said that maybe it was "like the Daley thing because of alcohol but not even that"... when that's not what she was implying at all.

It can be explained by them not knowing the details of what happened with Daley I guess... but still not something you'd say to a supposed friend. She revealed her thoughts on it that she had obviously been keeping to herself.
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I don't think it would be inaccurate to describe it as aggressive but that doeant have to mean anything awful. She was being really persistent and the actual eye hitting came AFTER hazel asked her to be careful. But, only aggressive in the sense of that "clumsy" way drunk people can get physically... Like when drunk old men pit their arm around your neck a little too tight, or slap you on the back a little too hard. But hazel knows that and was actually very careful NOT to make more of it with big brother, smiling and saying it was fine.

There was really no issue after that, Hazel did say "aggressive" to callum but he agreed that Charlie had been being a bit forceful with it... She was trying to "get her own back" in a slightly aggressive way. Due to being clearly very drunk. it was totally dropped until she said "i know how Daley feels" which was out of order - even Joe looked visibly shocked before Hazel registered what she had said. then she went on to deny it and claimed she had said that maybe it was "like the Daley thing because of alcohol but not even that"... when that's not what she was implying at all.

It can be explained by them not knowing the details of what happened with Daley I guess... but still not something you'd say to a supposed friend. She revealed her thoughts on it that she had obviously been keeping to herself.
..yeah, and I think the same way as the comment about Hazel's boyfriend's suicide, she just came right out and asked something completely inappropriate and I guess for Hazel, it then becomes something Charlie makes a habit of so she's bound to be annoyed and maybe even suspicious of her actions...

..;I also think Hazel has been judged far too harshly for flirting with Daley..I know emotionally it's not something any of us, and particularly people in partnerships will like because 'it takes two to tango' as it were and he wasn'r single so we don't like that she flirted with him but that's more of an emotional judgement..the reality is that he had the responsibility of faithfulness to his partner...that's not to say I condone it either but I don't think the judgement of her has been in perspective either...
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..or Charlie..JUST DON'T SPEAK..
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On a lighter note : did anyone else smirk a little when they showed Dexter and Hazel innocently harvesting the cucumbers in the HL show? "We'll make cucumber salad!", they said. Little did they know what those cucumbers would lead to.

Also my partner, who doesnt watch the show, happened to look up from her laptop just as the voiceover said:

"its been 27 minutes since Charlie poked Hazel in the eye with a cucumber"

Her face said it all I think. Utter confusion. Hahaha.
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Just out of interest, who actually agrees with who in this situation?
Charlie does get a bit stupid in drink and she did accidentally poke the cucumber in Hazels eye

However, Hazels overeaction is what caused the row and Callum didnt help by agreeing with her, like he does with everything anyone ever says.......

You notice when Hazel went to the DR, instead of saying, we are only playing, there is no problem, she said "I dont THINK there was any intent there"

Having said that, its been 24hrs now, so Hazel has probably returned to the DR to tell BB she is now 'terrified' lol

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Charlie does get a bit stupid in drink and she did accidentally poke the cucumber in Hazels eye

However, Hazels overeaction is what caused the row and Callum didnt help by agreeing with her, like he does with everything anyone ever says.......

You notice when Hazel went to the DR, instead of saying, we are only playing, there is no problem, she said "I dont THINK there was any intent there"

Having said that, its been 24hrs now, so Hazel has probably returned to the DR to tell BB she is now 'terrified' lol
hazel always starts everything, she provokes people to make them react then hazel gets screen time and attention....hazel rammed the cucumber in charlies mouth several times....why? then she made a song and dance over her allegedly getting gently poked back

shes trouble and as we know she is evil inside
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Charlie turns into a hyperactive toddler when drunk-which probably takes two glasses of cheap lager.
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Clearly Charlie was in the wrong.

Surprised she has 38 votes!
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Clearly Charlie was in the wrong.

Surprised she has 38 votes!
38 intelligent people who saw hazel forcibly stick a cucumber in charlies mouth a few times which started the whole fiasco
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38 intelligent people who saw hazel forcibly stick a cucumber in charlies mouth a few times which started the whole fiasco
And what about the Daley thing?

Charlie is an absolute mess when she's drunk.
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Charlie is an absolute mess when she's drunk.
It needed saying, just a shame it took a drunk to do it
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It needed saying, just a shame it took a drunk to do it

..why did it need saying..what relevance did it have to the cucumber..?..(and I can't believe just typed that sentence..)..
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