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Maybe lost more of his hearing as time went on?
In 6 months?
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In 6 months?
I dunno..I prefer to think that than the other options.

Did he definitely say he had 70% of his hearing on DOND?
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I dunno..I prefer to think that than the other options.

Did he definitely say he had 70% of his hearing on DOND?
From the transcript:

"Samuel Evans from Llanelli in Wales

Sam talks about his hearing disability and how it wasn't discovered until he was 7. He says he was very fortunate to be able to recover to have 70% of his hearing. Noel talks about him being a bit of a 'Jack the Lad'."
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In 6 months?

Oh come on.

You can't seriously be suspicious of Sam and whether they said 70% hearing on some other game show and 70% loss of hearing on this game show. HE didn't say it!

They guy has a hearing disability. You can hear he has a hearing disability. Deal with it ffs.

Dexter used the "I have no friends" excuse and you're going to pull Sam up and question him something that's medically provable!!

Jesus... I give up!
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Oh come on.

You can't seriously be suspicious of Sam and whether they said 70% hearing on some other game show and 70% loss of hearing on this game show. HE didn't say it!

They guy has a hearing disability. You can hear he has a hearing disability. Deal with it ffs.

Dexter used the "I have no friends" excuse and you're going to pull Sam up and question him something that's medically provable!!

Jesus... I give up!
I find myself agreeing with you once again Marmalite. Sam was never my favourite but he seems so inoffensive, I just don't get it...

Fingers... you're a bad, bad man.

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Oh come on.

You can't seriously be suspicious of Sam and whether they said 70% hearing on some other game show and 70% loss of hearing on this game show. HE didn't say it!

They guy has a hearing disability. You can hear he has a hearing disability. Deal with it ffs.

Dexter used the "I have no friends" excuse and you're going to pull Sam up and question him something that's medically provable!!

Jesus... I give up!


When I read the DOND blurb it says he said it himself. I don't think anyone is doubting his hearing loss in any way whatsoever - we're just discussing the possibilities that there might have been some discrepancies somewhere along the line. Please don't give up on us...
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Funny how he said on his VT for BB that he has LOST 70/80 percent of hearing but on Deal or no Deal he said he HAD 70% of his hearing, It has to be one or t'other.
Going by the way he talks, I would think he has lost 70%-80%.
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Going by the way he talks, I would think he has lost 70%-80%.


Yes - that's why I said I thought he was profoundly deaf prior to reading what he said on DOND. It's a little bit odd if it has degenerated so much in a few months. I know things can degenerate but I don't know enough about his condition to know if it can degenerate by large percentages like that over a short period...
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Funny how he said on his VT for BB that he has LOST 70/80 percent of hearing but on Deal or no Deal he said he HAD 70% of his hearing, It has to be one or t'other.
Couldn't be a progressive thing, could it? I mean, that never happens with medical conditions does it fingers, you know... degeneration. Or maybe it fluctuates between 70-80%. My mother has problems with her eyesight and some days it's better than others.

I don't get the Sam hate. There seems to be so little to dislike.
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Couldn't be a progressive thing, could it? I mean, that never happens with medical conditions does it fingers, you know... degeneration. Or maybe it fluctuates between 70-80%. My mother has problems with her eyesight and some days it's better than others.

I don't get the Sam hate. There seems to be so little to dislike.
He's just not "Genuine"
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He's just not "Genuine"
Call me petty but there's another thing.

How it took him ages to open the suitcase,
Yes we know you're perfect and have difficulty Sam.
Just open the bloody thing !

He's a nice enough lad and maybe I'm unfair.
It just really wound me up !
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Funny how he said on his VT for BB that he has LOST 70/80 percent of hearing but on Deal or no Deal he said he HAD 70% of his hearing, It has to be one or t'other.
Well he will have 70% of his hearing with aids.

You can tell by his speech that he has had speech therapy so he is very deaf without his aids.

Incredible that anyone should want to use his deafness against him.
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There's two sides to this, side one,dextters a snake and a ****,the other side,sam isn,t.
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Hang on are you saying he is deaf but not deaf enough?....
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There's two sides to this, side one,dextters a snake and a ****,the other side,sam isn,t.
Those are the basic FACTS, agreed.

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Hang on are you saying he is deaf but not deaf enough?....
No I'm referring to his seemingly lack of co-ordination or eyesight.

Like I said, I don't mean to be mean but It annoyed me how slow he was.
Was almost like he was milking it for all he was worth.
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Hang on are you saying he is deaf but not deaf enough?....
Why are you twisting words? He is the one who made the statements
!. that he has 70% of his hearing and

2. He has LOST 70% of his hearing,

No one is questioning the fact that he has a hearing loss!
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hasn't he got 70% in one ear and so much in the other?Also hearing aids can vary in their amplification.
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hasn't he got 70% in one ear and so much in the other?
I really don't give a crap.
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I really don't give a crap.
well it's obviously its an issue with some people
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well it's obviously its an issue with some people
For me the issue is not that he obviously has a hearing loss, the issue is his giving different accounts of its severity.
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hasn't he got 70% in one ear and so much in the other?Also hearing aids can vary in their amplification.
As one housemate said on live feed. 'Sam wont hear he has his hearing aids out'. They were yelling at the time.

Sam certainly talks as if he has been very deaf.
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Maybe just a miscomunication/mistype on DONDs part.

I think its quite obvious that Sam is very deaf, much moreso than 30%
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Maybe just a miscomunication/mistype on DONDs part.

I think its quite obvious that Sam is very deaf, much moreso than 30%
Yeah I would agree with that, I don't think he has misled anyone about how deaf he is.
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I took this snippet from the link provided to post below so people can get some understanding on Sams hearing loss.
Many people on here still believe that he has only has 30% hearing. The quote below is from Sam himself on this matter.

Quote: Sam talks about his hearing disability and how it wasn't discovered until he was 7. He says he was very fortunate to be able to recover to have 70% of his hearing.

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I dont see why we are debating how deaf Sam is based on a few words written down? To me it extremely obvious that he has much less than 30% hearing loss..

If someone can find the actual show on the 4 player or whatever where he actually SAYS these words then it might be a different story.

Even though his hearing could have got worse in he 6 months between dond and bb
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