[chuff me dizzy]

Watched it last night, Im no fan of Luisas but got to agree with her Dappy was following her from room to room shouting down at her, he was bullying her, I know shes got a mouth like the Mersey Tunnel, but he was intimidating her, and hes so bright, his A levels changed everytime he shouted out what he had got ,Horrid little man

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

WHen someone brings up a poll saying you're the fakest HM but that person doesn't realize it a fake poll, that infuriating but lets be honest its also very desperate. When someone escalates a simple discussion between the double standard of men and women sleeping around and start claiming that a HM's mum would be ashamed, again infuriating but also desperate.

It escalated because he backtracked and when she called him out on that he lied.

He then started asking Luisa how many men she'd slept with in one night (which is irrelevant) then repeated the pig/***** thing that still sounds sexist because he seems to think being a pig is better than being a *****.

It might help to watch the clips again.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

WHen someone brings up a poll saying you're the fakest HM but that person doesn't realize it a fake poll, that infuriating but lets be honest its also very desperate. When someone escalates a simple discussion between the double standard of men and women sleeping around and start claiming that a HM's mum would be ashamed, again infuriating but also desperate.

I'm with you on this one.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by MrWong

It escalated because he backtracked and when she called him out on that he lied.

He then started asking Luisa how many men she'd slept with in one night (which is irrelevant) then repeated the pig/***** thing that still sounds sexist because he seems to think being a pig is better than being a *****.

It might help to watch the clips again.

Your summary is very much an over view so please dont act like you nailed it. You've missed out quite a few steps.

The discussion was not at all heated until Luisa got involved. The discussion with Jasmine was quite cordial until Luisa saw her chance to look good. She escalated it not him. She tried desperate measures not him. You might want to take a look at the footage yourself instead of your poor attempt at being patronising.

[Z]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Your summary is very much an over view so please dont act like you nailed it. You've missed out quite a few steps.

The discussion was not at all heated until Luisa got involved. The discussion with Jasmine was quite cordial until Luisa saw her chance to look good. She escalated it not him. She tried desperate measures not him. You might want to take a look at the footage yourself instead of your poor attempt at being patronising.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Your summary is very much an over view so please dont act like you nailed it. You've missed out quite a few steps.

The discussion was not at all heated until Luisa got involved. The discussion with Jasmine was quite cordial until Luisa saw her chance to look good. She escalated it not him. She tried desperate measures not him. You might want to take a look at the footage yourself instead of your poor attempt at being patronising.

The discussion was fine until he backtracked.

btw I wasn't being patronizing. I viewed the clips again myself just to be sure.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by MrWong

The discussion was fine until he backtracked.

The discussion was fine until Luisa stuck her big nose in. We can do this all night if you want.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by MrWong

The discussion was fine until he backtracked.

GiRTh is the only one of the two of you who seems to have watched it right through.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

The discussion was fine until Luisa stuck her big nose in. We can do this all night if you want.

She can't join in a discussion now?

It ended briefly with them having a laugh.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Livia

GiRTh is the only one of the two of you who seems to have watched it right through.

It was a brief overview.

What bit was wrong?

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by MrWong

She can't join in a discussion now?

It ended briefly with them having a laugh.

Of course she can join n a discussion but if she want to make accusations and try and look good then she must be called on those actions.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Of course she can join n a discussion but if she want to make accusations and try and look good then she must be called on those actions.

Not sure what you mean here. Called on what actions?

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Not sure what you mean here. Called on what actions?

I think its clear from the vid but would you like me to enlighten you?

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

I think its clear from the vid but would you like me to enlighten you?

Yes it would help to further the discussion.

It seems like you're saying Dappy called her out on something and i was trying to remember if that even happened.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Yes it would help to further the discussion.

It seems like you're saying Dappy called her out on something and i was trying to remember if that even happened.

I think you're well aware of what I'm saying due to your limited view of the situation.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

I think you're well aware of what I'm saying due to your limited view of the situation.

Repeating the words "ho, ho, ho, ho, ho" probably didn't help the situation either.

[Brother Leon]

The debate was fine between Jasmine and Dappy. Jasmine told him he couldn't say that as a fact and Dappy even apologised if Jasmine was offended in anyway and they were pretty much over it. It was Luisa that needlessly made it aggressive and personal only for her to cry about Harassment when he bit back.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Repeating the words "ho, ho, ho, ho, ho" probably didn't help the situation either.

I thought they were as bad as each other and both should be ashamed.

[Jord]

Luisa is amazing

[Jemal]

Im not defending dappy at all.
Im still tryna wonder how people are defending luisa....
When shes the one that went personal.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Your summary is very much an over view so please dont act like you nailed it. You've missed out quite a few steps.

The discussion was not at all heated until Luisa got involved. The discussion with Jasmine was quite cordial until Luisa saw her chance to look good. She escalated it not him. She tried desperate measures not him. You might want to take a look at the footage yourself instead of your poor attempt at being patronising.

I agree ,she escalated it ,and pardon me if Im wrong ,but I thought she had told him and Jasmine SHE had slept with 5 men in one night ,Shes told the world and its dog all about her seedy sex life, but when someone tells her its not big,and its not clever, she didnt like it ,He was following her around making himself look a total tw@ ,lieing about how brainy hes is (so brainy he couldnt even remember what A levels he got ) If you share your details with the world,you have to expect someone to comment on it

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

I thought they were as bad as each other and both should be ashamed.

EQUALLY as bad as each other

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

EQUALLY as bad as each other

Yes. I find it hard to pick as I cant stand either of them. Dappy's comments were indeed sexist but there was never any need for Luisa to bring his family in to the discussion. Thats when he became heated. The conversation IMO never had to go there unless of course Luisa saw it as an opportunity to score a few point with the public and make Dappy look bad. In the end I think they ended up looking as bad as each other.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Yes. I find it hard to pick as I cant stand either of them. Dappy's comments were indeed sexist but there was never any need for Luisa to bring his family in to the discussion. Thats when he became heated. The conversation IMO never had to go there unless of course Luisa saw it as an opportunity to score a few point with the public and make Dappy look bad. In the end I think they ended up looking as bad as each other.

Yes they did, I just wanted her to throw the water at him, she would have been removed if she had ,and no doubt little big man would have thrown something back ,so he would have gone too A* in English ,but he cannot even talk it !! Idiot

[Jake.]

Thing is I know where Luisa is coming from. I don't agree with bringing in family members, but I know 100% that if I referred to a woman as a *****/slag and made the same sexist comments which he did to begin with... well, think it's fair to say that I'd be making my own dinners for a while. Whilst not being in the right, she was correct.. his female members would (and should) probably be appalled, because that just isn't how you speak to a woman. On the flip side, I completely agree that both were in the wrong, and neither came off looking good.