[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

They'll say they investigated it but ultimately they'll do nothing if there's no basis to the threat.

so there you go, people cant think they can say what they like and get away with it.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by smeagol

but saying that ,things as sick as this incident the people need to be stopped as its not just silly trolling its evil and harmful . only matters that bad should be acted upon. anything else people threating to kill eachother or silly jokes or one off remarks no way. happens everyday.

Back in the good old days the internet more or less policed itself. Malicious trolls were either dealt with quickly by site staff (because the sites were all small to medium sized, personally owned forums, much like TiBB, not huge sprawling messes like Facebook) OR the trolls were torn to shreds by tight-knit forum communities. Which was often brilliant to watch. And participate in. It was so much better... but you don't get the latter any more, because the people who DO have a sense of justice, the intelligent community members sharp enough (and just vicious enough) to send people packing, are now too scared to get involved, because they fear real-life retribution or that they themselves will somehow become the target of legal action / a police visit.

[Glenn.]

My sister is having grief with her ex ATM. He's threatened all sorts, police have been notified and nothing's been done. Police aren't going to take the empty threats of an internet troll too seriously. It seems a fuss has been made over this because of who the person is. Still doesn't justify the manpower it needed to resolve. It should of been nipped in the bud. By twitter, and not at the cost if taxpayers.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

if you post that you are going to kill me and I report it to the police, they will investigate it.

Yes, they'd investigate it. They'd look at the post, say "this clearly isn't a genuine threat", and then do nothing at all.

[Doogle]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

What a waste of time and police resources. The fact that Taxpayer money was used to go slap a twitter troll on the wrist is about as offensive as anything the troll said.

Agreed. This **** happens every day, it's what sadly happens with the internet existing. You can't stop it because there's so many cases where this will happen

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

so there you go, people cant think they can say what they like and get away with it.

Not really, if you reported a death threat online to the police you'd get the police equivalent of a Taxi Operator's 'he's just around the corner' remark unless it was a serious threat which 99.9999999999999999999% of them aren't.

Anyway you cut it it's a waste of time and resources.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Glenn

My sister is having grief with her ex ATM. He's threatened all sorts, police have been notified and nothing's been done. Police aren't going to take the empty threats of an internet troll too seriously. It seems a fuss has been made over this because of who the person is. Still doesn't justify the manpower it needed to resolve. It should of been nipped in the bud. By twitter, and not at the cost if taxpayers.

so nothing gets done and he can target someone else.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Glenn;6877041[B

]My sister is having grief with her ex ATM. He's threatened all sorts, police have been notified and nothing's been done.[/B] Police aren't going to take the empty threats of an internet troll too seriously. It seems a fuss has been made over this because of who the person is. Still doesn't justify the manpower it needed to resolve. It should of been nipped in the bud. By twitter, and not at the cost if taxpayers.

So are your family wasting police time and resources by reporting it?

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Not really, if you reported a death threat online to the police you'd get the police equivalent of a Taxi Operator's 'he's just around the corner' remark unless it was a serious threat which 99.9999999999999999999% of them aren't.

Anyway you cut it it's a waste of time and resources.

yes its a waste of time and money let the pedophile's target kids after all its only the internet.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

So are your family wasting police time and resources by reporting it?

No because it's an actual threat cherie, made by someone with the intention to act upon it, not a stranger on twitter. Pretending to be the ghost of a dead child isn't a threat?

[smudgie]

He is indeed a scumbag Kaz.

Sick bstd.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Cherie

So are your family wasting police time and resources by reporting it?

So you consider a threat to Glenn's sister from someone she knows intimately in real life the same as a random twitter troll's remarks?

Really Cherie? Really?

[smeagol]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Back in the good old days the internet more or less policed itself. Malicious trolls were either dealt with quickly by site staff (because the sites were all small to medium sized, personally owned forums, much like TiBB, not huge sprawling messes like Facebook) OR the trolls were torn to shreds by tight-knit forum communities. Which was often brilliant to watch. And participate in. It was so much better... but you don't get the latter any more, because the people who DO have a sense of justice, the intelligent community members sharp enough (and just vicious enough) to send people packing, are now too scared to get involved, because they fear real-life retribution or that they themselves will somehow become the target of legal action / a police visit.

i agree with that actually. you cant say anything anymore. if a troll comes you'd be more likely to get banned yourself . where as you say before it would be a fun free for all and they'd go running .
i went on a music site id not been on for ages . was a war zone most of the time but fun. they chnaged it, i get atroll i called him a idiot and i got a warning lol wtf. i was being polite as well lol. i wont be back there again.
The net is getting worst no doubt about it. cant chat anymore without restrictions.
but when it comes to dead kids something has to be done. thats a different form of trolling thats in another relm its not even a joke or a remark. its a premediated sick planned attack,

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

yes its a waste of time and money let the pedophile's target kids after all its only the internet.

Who mentioned anything about peadophiles? What are you actually on? What topic are you reading? Because I don't think you're reading the same thing as everyone else.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

So you consider a threat to Glenn's sister from someone she knows intimately in real life the same as a random twitter troll's remarks?

Really Cherie? Really?

An internet troll can be someone you know in real life, they are not always strangers, I would take the better safe then sorry approach.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Glenn

No because it's an actual threat cherie, made by someone with the intention to act upon it, not a stranger on twitter. Pretending to be the ghost of a dead child isn't a threat?

I do feel for you a friends daughter is going through similar at the minute, the police have been great though.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I do feel for you a friends daughter is going through similar at the minute, the police have been great though.

Your friends daughters very lucky then. Our local police have probably been dealing with the paperwork from the case we're discussing.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Who mentioned anything about peadophiles? What are you actually on? What topic are you reading? Because I don't think you're reading the same thing as everyone else.

you are the one on the wrong thread it seems, you cant seem to get your head around the fact that what that man was doing was sick and its not going to be tolerated, just because it being said on the internet and not in the street that it should not be treated seriously.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Cherie

An internet troll can be someone you know in real life, they are not always strangers, I would take the better safe then sorry approach.

Except going to the police over it would ultimately be a placebo unless you could prove a link between the troll and someone you knew IRL AS WELL as there being a legitimate danger to your well being.

It's a waste of time since trolls are still trolls at the end of the day and the chances of them doing anything in real life is lower than low. The police shouldn't get involved since it's an Admin issue.

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

you are the one on the wrong thread it seems, you cant seem to get your head around the fact that what that man was doing was sick and its not going to be tolerated, just because it being said on the internet and not in the street that it should not be treated seriously.

He was PRETENDING to be a GHOST! Ghosts don't exist, how could anybody be offended by something so idiotic? He should not have done it but it definitely wasn't a crime.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Jessica‪

He was PRETENDING to be a GHOST! Ghosts don't exist, how could anybody be offended by something so idiotic? He should not have done it but it definitely wasn't a crime.

his aim was to cause hurt and suffering to a mother that had her child murdered, if I dress up as a clown and punch you in the face, the police wont come out and say oh you are being silly he is a clown look at his big shoes, chuckle chuckle.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

his aim was to cause hurt and suffering to a mother that had her child murdered, if I dress up as a clown and punch you in the face, the police wont come out and say oh you are being silly he is a clown look at his big shoes, chuckle chuckle.

If you did that, that would be you committing a crime, you know, assault. Not really relevant here.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

The price of Freedom of Speech is that you'll sometimes hear things you don't want to hear, the price of a free internet is that some people use it for nasty purposes. Trolls like this person are an acceptable price for an internet free of censorship.

In this case I don't want a free internet.. If the price is people are abused and harassed without redress by some jumped up geek banging away on his keyboard spouting their mouth off to those grieving then I say regulate the hell out of it and expose them all.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Glenn

If you did that, that would be you committing a crime, you know, assault. Not really relevant here.

its a reference to taking things serious, so it is relevant.

[Firewire]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

In this case I don't want a free internet.. If the price is people are abused and harassed without redress by some jumped up geek banging away on his keyboard spouting their mouth off to those grieving then I say regulate the hell out of it and expose them all.

People are abused on a daily basis, in schools, in workplaces, in their own homes. People get slurs thrown at them, people make jibes, people get bullied. Does anything happen? Not really. Online you can block someone out of your life, but in school, for example, you can't. Being online is an escape for some people. There will always be rude people and ignorant people, but you can block them out of your life. If you don't want an internet, get rid of your dial up.