[michael21]

glad my thread was useful

now click my SPOILER

Spoiler:

[Josy]

Originally Posted by michael21

glad my thread was useful

now click my SPOILER

Spoiler:

If you get a dodgy email attachment....open it please.


















only joking

[Samuel.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

mac laptop owners tend to have:

- less technical knowledge than PC laptop owners,

I know the whole Mac's don't get viruses thing is a load of tosh, just poking fun.

But that point is completely baseless. Not exactly a representation of everybody, but it's very much the opposite with the people I know, with the PC users having no desire to spend time learning how to use a different type of system when they only require Word and Internet Explorer.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Josy

Hmm I would disagree with not needing one at all.

And tbh most people are very wreckless online these days anyway

True but since 2007 (introduction of windows Vista and user account control) it is almost impossible to install malicious software by accident. AV also warns you about phishing sites, yes, but you'd have to be an actual idiot to fall for a phishing scam in the first place. I have very little sympathy for people who log in to "fcaebook.com", give them their credit card details, and then wonder why it's being used in Morocco.

I've even just done the unthinkable, and installed Malwarebytes on my precious PC to prove a point.

- This installation of Windows 7 has been running almost 24/7 since January 2013.

- I have had NO antivirus or anti malware software on it at any point

- I do torrent / install "potentially hazardous" files. Often.

- I've been known to dabble on Tor

Scan Type: Threat Scan
Result: Completed
Objects Scanned: 353285
Time Elapsed: 2 min, 54 sec

Memory: Enabled
Startup: Enabled
Filesystem: Enabled
Archives: Enabled
Rootkits: Enabled
Heuristics: Enabled
PUP: Enabled
PUM: Enabled

Processes: 0
(No malicious items detected)

Modules: 0
(No malicious items detected)

Registry Keys: 0
(No malicious items detected)

Registry Values: 0
(No malicious items detected)

Registry Data: 0
(No malicious items detected)

Folders: 0
(No malicious items detected)

Files: 0
(No malicious items detected)

Physical Sectors: 0
(No malicious items detected)


(end)

It's scaremongering.

[michael21]

=Josy;6892293]If you get a dodgy email attachment....open it please.

only joking [/QUOTE]

[Ryan57]

You've been to the deep web, Toy Soldier? And you returned unscathed?

Edit: I'm assuming there that with you having used Tor that you entered the deep web.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Samuel.

I know the whole Mac's don't get viruses thing is a load of tosh, just poking fun.

But that point is completely baseless. Not exactly a representation of everybody, but it's very much the opposite with the people I know, with the PC users having no desire to spend time learning how to use a different type of system when they only require Word and Internet Explorer.

Anyone with any technical knowledge who would willingly spend Ł1200 on an i5 laptop with a 13" screen is either completely mental, or has far too much money burning a hole in their pocket .

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

True but since 2007 (introduction of windows Vista and user account control) it is almost impossible to install malicious software by accident. AV also warns you about phishing sites, yes, but you'd have to be an actual idiot to fall for a phishing scam in the first place. I have very little sympathy for people who log in to "fcaebook.com", give them their credit card details, and then wonder why it's being used in Morocco.

I've even just done the unthinkable, and installed Malwarebytes on my precious PC to prove a point.

- This installation of Windows 7 has been running almost 24/7 since January 2013.

- I have had NO antivirus or anti malware software on it at any point

- I do torrent / install "potentially hazardous" files. Often.

- I've been known to dabble on Tor




It's scaremongering.

TOR is a completely safe browser though anyway not sure why that would be relevant to proving your point

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Ryan57

You've been to the deep web, Toy Soldier? And you returned unscathed?

For the last couple of years, the deep web has included most bog standard torrent sites . That's the real online threat we should be looking at. ISP censorship :/.

[Josy]

Tor isn't the deep web btw it's just one of the browsers used to get there..

[Josy]

We have went way off topic here haven't we

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Josy

TOR is a completely safe browser though anyway not sure why that would be relevant to proving your point

Because half of the sites you "need" to use Tor to access would be red-flagged by most AV programs. They also have a nasty habit of "quarantining" perfectly legitimate (and necessary) files...

To be fair, I'm not saying there's any real harm in most people using AV software, other than that it'll noticeably slow down any laptop with less than an i3 for no good reason. I'm just pointing out that there's no reason for people to worry, and CERTAINLY no reason for people to be panic-scammed into paying for "professional" AV or the premium versions of the free ones (which are constantly ad-spammed by the programs themselves).

I'd just rather not have to worry about AVG constantly soft-deleting my DaemonTools

[michael21]

Originally Posted by Josy

We have went way off topic here haven't we

that ok i don't mind

as long as my thread cause widespread panic i am happy

[Ryan57]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

For the last couple of years, the deep web has included most bog standard torrent sites . That's the real online threat we should be looking at. ISP censorship :/.

I've seen some of the basics of it on Youtube and from people's opinions. The basics alone seemed, let's say '' sums things up well.

There's a site where people grab pictures of naked pictures of girls (of the legal age, I think anyway ) to then try and find their addresses and other details and swap with other perverts.

Think it might be a read only site now, but at one time it was a fully functioning pervert's wet dream.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Because half of the sites you "need" to use Tor to access would be red-flagged by most AV programs. They also have a nasty habit of "quarantining" perfectly legitimate (and necessary) files...

To be fair, I'm not saying there's any real harm in most people using AV software, other than that it'll noticeably slow down any laptop with less than an i3 for no good reason. I'm just pointing out that there's no reason for people to worry, and CERTAINLY no reason for people to be panic-scammed into paying for "professional" AV or the premium versions of the free ones (which are constantly ad-spammed by the programs themselves).

I'd just rather not have to worry about AVG constantly soft-deleting my DaemonTools

I agree with you this is a big panic for nothing, to hear the way the news was going on earlier you would have thought there was going to be an alien invasion 'two weeks to prepare for the attack' jeezo

And I know exactly how you feel I'm always to rescue daemontools from the virus vault

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Josy

Tor isn't the deep web btw it's just one of the browsers used to get there..

Weeell that's not technically accurate... Tor is the free-to-use, crowd maintained proxy / relay network that allows you to browse completely anonymously. There are a couple of different specially configured browsers that allow you to access Tor. I think there are also things like phone apps these days too... though I have no idea why anyone would need Tor on their phone! Maybe just for the paranoid folks who want 100% anonymity. OR ARE THEY PARANOID?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Josy

I agree with you this is a big panic for nothing, to hear the way the news was going on earlier you would have thought there was going to be an alien invasion 'two weeks to prepare for the attack' jeezo

Well... remember "the millennium bug"? What a let down that was! I was expecting planes falling from the sky, life support systems imploding, sea creatures rising up from the deep to take advantage of the tech blackout window and finally conquer the land-dwellers...

Gutted.

[Vicky.]

OK downloaded avast...do I need to keep malwarebytes? Just this comp is slow as **** until I get a harddrive to put all my stuff on

[Samuel.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Anyone with any technical knowledge who would willingly spend Ł1200 on an i5 laptop with a 13" screen is either completely mental, or has far too much money burning a hole in their pocket .

Or is a creative I need mine for Logic Pro.

[Ryan57]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

OK downloaded avast...do I need to keep malwarebytes? Just this comp is slow as **** until I get a harddrive to put all my stuff on

Definitely keep it.

Your PC might be slow due to programs starting up when Windows starts up.

[smeagol]

The problem with viruses like this is your not meant to open emails. but the emails will most likely be from people you know and trust ithout their knowlege .
no anti virus will save you if you click anything or something thats attahed to a website or soemething. its like stepping on a mine lol

malawarebyes is great but its more of a killer of the problems after the fact than a prevention. best to have it on the pc .but thoug this virus it sounds like it just shuts you down by the sound of it there doesn't seem a way around it.

they can have my money but touch my music will be hell

[Crimson Dynamo]

My Full Norton and malwarebytes keeps me safe

and dont forget your smartphones

[michael21]

this is odd i got a email claiming to be from digiguide in the title is say you have received a reply to your thread or something like that so i deleted it without clicking on it and when to see what the reply was and there was no reply

[Jay.]

My laptop doesnt need virus protection, its built in, so I guess I'll be alright aha because i can't download software on mine, it's a chromebook <3

[michael21]

Originally Posted by Jay.

My laptop doesn't need virus protection, its built in, so I guess I'll be alright aha because i can't download software on mine, it's a chromebook <3

you should be ok if it bulit in your no for sure in 13 days