[Josy]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

They knew Marlon was going to get the most nominations ever since he pressed the button! FFS.



Maybe, but it doesn't change the fact that the decision to do it was made when they knew full well Marlon was the one most likely to get them.



Really? So they send in 3 new housemates, giventhem the power to evict whoever they want, when there's a girl in there who keeps saying she wants to go? You don't see where that's likely to lead?

You are making no sense, everyone knew Marlon would go what does that have to do with anything? how does that make your claim about Ashleigh and the show being manipulated any more valid? please explain?

You are concentrating on Ashleigh too much there are plenty of other housemates in there and at this point none of us have a clue who they will evict, it's **** for whoever they do choose but that doesn't mean it's manipulated.

[MeMyselfAndI]

Originally Posted by Josy

I never claimed Pauline was topping anything on the week she was evicted, maybe you need to read my posts again.

IIRC Pauline topped the favourite poll and the profile favourites on the first week of the show.

well how bizzaree, I'd assume when you mentioned she was topping all the polls according to TiBB & so should she be seen as a 'uncrowned winner', I assumed you were mentioning her popularity at the time/week she was evicted, like we are all for Ashleigh.

It's like the equivalent of people replying "Ashleigh is not popular, look at the week 2 poll', just random

And here's the poll if anyone else wants to see it, Pauline was not topping any polls on TiBB the week she was evicted

Spoiler:

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Josy

I have been asking that too

To say the producers are manipulating the entire show around her to prevent her from staying or winning is one of the most ridiculous things I have read.

I actually can't believe people truly think that

Well you tell me what they had in mind giving 3 new housemates the power to evict when they know full well there's one person in there who will tell them she wants to go?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

Well you tell me what they had in mind giving 3 new housemates the power to evict when they know full well there's one person in there who will tell them she wants to go?

THE HOUSEMATES DON'T KNOW THE NEWBIES ARE EVICTING THEM!!!!

We don't even know if they'll be able to converse, they may be in the diary room and watched on the plasma.

They're having instant evictions because they're striving for something new that the show has never done before.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

Well you tell me what they had in mind giving 3 new housemates the power to evict when they know full well there's one person in there who will tell them she wants to go?

Its Armageddon week, they have to provide as much shocks as possible to the housemates and to the viewers, it has nothing to do with Ashleigh saying she wants to go, she seems happy enough in there atm.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndI

well how bizzaree, I'd assume when you mentioned she was topping all the polls according to TiBB & so should she be seen as a 'uncrowned winner', I assumed you were mentioning her popularity at the time/week she was evicted, like we are all for Ashleigh.

Ashleigh hasn't been evicted so what are you talking about?

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Josy

You are making no sense

Or you just struggle to comprehend.

everyone knew Marlon would go what does that have to do with anything?

It has everything to do with proving that they will and do manipulate the show to get certain people out. The decision to evict the person with the most noms was obviously, (to those of us with sense), done with Marlon in mind.

how does that make your claim about Ashleigh and the show being manipulated any more valid? please explain?

Because they know full well there's a strong chance she will be the one who gets evicted. There's little to no chance at all of it being Mark or Winston. And they know this.

You are concentrating on Ashleigh too much there are plenty of other housemates in there and at this point none of us have a clue who they will evict, it's **** for whoever they do choose but that doesn't mean it's manipulated.

Oh come on. You have to believe that these people don't think these things through and just leave everything to chance. Yes, it's possible that Danielle will get it, or Chris. But the most likely person, given that she has been saying she wants to leave, is obviously Ashleigh. There's even a video of them today pointing out that she wants to leave. Something a blind person could have seen coming.

[MeMyselfAndI]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Ashleigh hasn't been evicted so what are you talking about?

this thread is about Ashleigh possibly being evicted, and so the post was under the assumption if she was evicted, it's not that hard to understand, can you stop nitpicking my posts now.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndI

this thread is about Ashleigh possibly being evicted, and so the post was under the assumption if she was evicted, it's not that hard to understand, can you stop nitpicking my posts now.

I'm not nitpicking anything. YOU responded to me because you were nitpicking something in Josy's post that I agreed with.

If you don't like to be quoted and discuss things then don't come on a forum.

[MeMyselfAndI]

Me & others are just pointing out that Ashleigh is one of the most popular housemates in the house by the public vote, and so if she was voted out by a random trash housemate like Bianca, it's very likely that she would have went on to win the whole show, considering she has so much public support at the moment.

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by Josy

I have been asking that too

To say the producers are manipulating the entire show around her to prevent her from staying or winning is one of the most ridiculous things I have read.

I actually can't believe people truly think that

The reason would be that she is not supposed to win but there is a danger she might.

[MeMyselfAndI]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I'm not nitpicking anything. YOU responded to me because you were nitpicking something in Josy's post that I agreed with.

If you don't like to be quoted and discuss things then don't come on a forum.

But josy's post was wrong, Pauline did not top the polls in the week she was evicted, she only topped launch night poll's, so i was wondering why you were clapping a clearly wrong post.

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

THE HOUSEMATES DON'T KNOW THE NEWBIES ARE EVICTING THEM!!!!

What the hell does that have to do with anything? The people making the show know that Ashleigh has been saying these things and have given the newbies the power to give her her wish, which the public will not do.

We don't even know if they'll be able to converse, they may be in the diary room and watched on the plasma.

They're having instant evictions because they're striving for something new that the show has never done before.

I just can't believe people are watching this show under the illusion that the producers don't have certain people they are happy to see go and perhaps even want to go (and therefore set things up for them to go) and certain people they will bend over backwards to make sure they don't lose. it's hilarious to me how naive some of you are.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndI

But josy's post was wrong, Pauline did not top the polls in the week she was evicted, she only topped launch night poll's, so i was wondering why you were clapping a clearly wrong post.

Josy has already explained she never said that and it isn't what she meant so it wasn't wrong. You misunderstood what she was saying.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

Or you just struggle to comprehend.




It has everything to do with proving that they will and do manipulate the show to get certain people out. The decision to evict the person with the most noms was obviously, (to those of us with sense), done with Marlon in mind.




Because they know full well there's a strong chance she will be the one who gets evicted. There's little to no chance at all of it being Mark or Winston. And they know this.



Oh come on. You have to believe that these people don't think these things through and just leave everything to chance. Yes, it's possible that Danielle will get it, or Chris. But the most likely person, given that she has been saying she wants to leave, is obviously Ashleigh. There's even a video of them today pointing out that she wants to leave. Something a blind person could have seen coming.

It wasn't done with Marlon in mind, it was done because it's the norm that the hm's with the most votes would face eviction by removing the public say it was obvious the person with the most noms was gone? what other way would you have expected them to work that out?

I don't believe for a minute that they have any reason to want Ashleigh evicted and you still haven't answered the question as to why they would want that anyway?

Well if they do choose Ashleigh because she wants to leave then how is that producers fault? if anything it's Ashleighs for saying she wants to go home..

[Achilles]

Why was Helen given the free pass? Was it because she struck up a lovely bond with Pauline after 5 minutes and just got lucky? Or was she supposed to get the free pass because she was integral to the show.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Achilles

The reason would be that she is not supposed to win but there is a danger she might.

That's not a reason? what's the reason for her not being supposed to win then?

[MeMyselfAndI]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Josy has already explained she never said that and it isn't what she meant so it wasn't wrong. You misunderstood what she was saying.

i just don't think Josy was referring to a launch night poll in saying Pauline was popular on TiBB & so is she the uncrowned winner, as that makes no sense to me. As everyone knows launch night poll's are essentially useless, i believe she was referring to different poll's, as when I posted the week 2 poll, the immediate reponse was "wheres that from? what?" or something like that, rather than replying with I meant the launch night poll's.

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by Josy

That's not a reason? what's the reason for her not being supposed to win then?

Spoiler:

Why does Alan Ladd shoot Jack Palance at the end of Shane?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

What the hell does that have to do with anything? The people making the show know that Ashleigh has been saying these things and have given the newbies the power to give her her wish, which the public will not do.

A lot. You're suggesting Ashleigh will tell them to evict her, which she won't if she isn't aware what they have to do.

The people making the show know, so? What? They're going to tell the newbies to evict Ashleigh on that basis? Ok then.

Originally Posted by Yaki da

I just can't believe people are watching this show under the illusion that the producers don't have certain people they are happy to see go and perhaps even want to go (and therefore set things up for them to go) and certain people they will bend over backwards to make sure they don't lose. it's hilarious to me how naive some of you are.

I'm not naive. I KNOW how manipulated the show can be to create drama and keep certain housemates in who are holding the show together (Charley BB8 as a huge example).

However, when you sit there ranting about how they're eager to evict Ashleigh AND CAN PROVIDE NO POSSIBLE REASON WHY THEY ARE DOING THIS then why should we take your word for it? That doesn't make us naive, that just means we don't believe every little batsh*t conspiracy theory when someone doesn't have things going their own way.

In another thread someone's saying Emma got Winston onto BB and is helping to keep him safe. Why is she doing that? Because he appeared on another show she presented last year which means they're best friends.

[Pete.]

Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndI

i just don't think Josy was referring to a launch night poll in saying Pauline was popular on TiBB & so is she the uncrowned winner, as that makes no sense to me. As everyone knows launch night poll's are essentially useless, i believe she was referring to different poll's, as when I posted the week 2 poll, the immediate reponse was "wheres that from? what?" or something like that, rather than replying with I meant the launch night poll's.

she was referring to polls like BBSpy

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Achilles

Why was Helen given the free pass? Was it because she struck up a lovely bond with Pauline after 5 minutes and just got lucky? Or was she supposed to get the free pass because she was integral to the show.

She was one of the closest to Pauline after a day.

If you are going to say you think Helens free pass was set up then I'm done with this discussion...

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Josy

It wasn't done with Marlon in mind

Hahahahahaha

it was done because it's the norm that the hm's with the most votes would face eviction by removing the public say it was obvious the person with the most noms was gone? what other way would you have expected them to work that out?

Why did they choose to do that? They could have done anything. They chose to do something that would obviously lead to Marlon being out. They make these decisions with the results in mind. Do you honestly not see that?

I don't believe for a minute that they have any reason to want Ashleigh evicted and you still haven't answered the question as to why they would want that anyway?

Well if they do choose Ashleigh because she wants to leave then how is that producers fault? if anything it's Ashleighs for saying she wants to go home..

The producers know full well that Ashleigh has been asking to leave, something the public have shown they do not want to see by evicting Jale instead. Suddenly they give 3 new housemates the power to evict someone after there's already been complaints about taking away the public vote. These 3 housemates have already commented on Ashleigh saying she wants to leave and discussed if that should influence their decision on Friday. Now I saw that coming a bloody mile away and the production team would have seen that coming a mile away. Maybe you can't, but that's your problem

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndI

i just don't think Josy was referring to a launch night poll in saying Pauline was popular on TiBB & so is she the uncrowned winner, as that makes no sense to me. As everyone knows launch night poll's are essentially useless, i believe she was referring to different poll's, as when I posted the week 2 poll, the immediate reponse was "wheres that from? what?" or something like that, rather than replying with I meant the launch night poll's.

She was referring to the fact that Pauline was by far the most popular housemate for the first few days/week and then her popularity nosedived.

Meaning current popularity means nothing in terms of winning, unless it's the final week.

[MeMyselfAndI]

Originally Posted by Petemitch

she was referring to polls like BBSpy

Pauline didn't top any of those poll's except launch night, she came second last on the BBspy for week 2, which is what I posted to disprove the post