[Kate!]

Zee - pm me!!

Scott..... You will come to the gym with me and we will eye up all the totty. Trust me!

I'll buy you 4 cans of Foster if you do?

[Z]

It's not okay and it won't be okay but on the plus side it's forced everyone else in the family to finally speak up and speak to one another and establish some facts and basically all just break out of our fear of her and put some things right, so it's not all bad

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Z

It's not okay and it won't be okay but on the plus side it's forced everyone else in the family to finally speak up and speak to one another and establish some facts and basically all just break out of our fear of her and put some things right, so it's not all bad

well at least something positive has come from whatever it is that's happened for you, nothing worse than feeling like you can't speak up

[T*]

Youtube video

[Z]

It's just like, bullying, basically, it's been boiling under for years and over the last month it finally all blew up

[arista]

Originally Posted by Z

It's just like, bullying, basically, it's been boiling under for years and over the last month it finally all blew up

Mums need there space to

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

freddie prinze jr

[arista]

Z

take a walk
its intense - but not forever

[Z]

Originally Posted by arista

Z

take a walk
its intense - but not forever

It won't get better. Things can change and time moves on but it'll never get better. The problem is her and it won't change because she won't recognise that she is the problem.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Z

It won't get better. Things can change and time moves on but it'll never get better. The problem is her and it won't change because she won't recognise that she is the problem.

Sounds familiar to be honest. My mum was the same with my Grandma, their relationship always suffered because my Grandma refused to recognise her own problems that were obvious to everyone else.

[Z]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Sounds familiar to be honest. My mum was the same with my Grandma, their relationship always suffered because my Grandma refused to recognise her own problems that were obvious to everyone else.

Yeah. You can't make someone change, they have to change on their own terms; and if they refuse to change then your options are to put up with it or get out of there. I choose the latter. I'm done with it.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Z

Yeah. You can't make someone change, they have to change on their own terms; and if they refuse to change then your options are to put up with it or get out of there. I choose the latter. I'm done with it.

Definitely. You have to make those hard decisions.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Z

Yeah. You can't make someone change, they have to change on their own terms; and if they refuse to change then your options are to put up with it or get out of there. I choose the latter. I'm done with it.

I had a bit of a showdown a few years ago with my mum, seriously it was a bit of a drop dead fred scenario haha but I was nearly 30!
You take control of your life and your relationships, you will come to an understanding with your mother I'm sure x
We do change massively every 7yrs or so, saturn returns and has us totally reevauating our lives and what our priorities are going forward, she will always be important to you but but have less input into the design of your life?

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Sounds familiar to be honest. My mum was the same with my Grandma, their relationship always suffered because my Grandma refused to recognise her own problems that were obvious to everyone else.

Yeah I've gone through similar with my own mum so when she passed away my grief was mixed with guilt so I completely get where you're coming from Marshmellow

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by *Kate*

Yeah I've gone through similar with my own mum so when she passed away my grief was mixed with guilt so I completely get where you're coming from Marshmellow

[Ramsay]

Should of read the thread
**** Greg sorry to hear that. That stuff is intense.

[Z]

Originally Posted by Ramsay

Should of read the thread
**** Greg sorry to hear that. That stuff is intense.

It's okay, I love when somebody bursts in with something hilarious in the middle of some intense chat on here, always makes me laugh

[Kate!]

Greg

[Jessica.]

Greg, I'm in the exact same situation, my mother has been tearing the family apart for my whole life and it's only now that I'm not letting her involve me any more, it's tough to stand up to her but I really need to do it or I will genuinely not be responsible for my actions.

[Z]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

Greg, I'm in the exact same situation, my mother has been tearing the family apart for my whole life and it's only now that I'm not letting her involve me any more, it's tough to stand up to her but I really need to do it or I will genuinely not be responsible for my actions.

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Z

Whenever I give people the details they tell me she needs to see a psychotherapist. She does see professionals but she doesn't admit to ANYTHING! If you ever want to vent to me go ahead.

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

Whenever I give people the details they tell me she needs to see a psychotherapist. She does see professionals but she doesn't admit to ANYTHING! If you ever want to vent to me go ahead.

Would you not move out Jess?

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by *Kate*

Would you not move out Jess?

I want to move out but I don't have the means, I don't have anywhere to go, I don't have family who I trust, I don't have any friends, I don't have anything or anyone.

[Glenn.]

Evening

[Jessica.]

I love you Glenn.