[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Who Is She?

Wtf Helen isn't sucking up to anyone

Ashleigh and Chris (as much as I love them) sucked up to her if anything (both of them pretending to care about Steven's eviction to please her even when they knew he'd said he was going to nominate them both)

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Who Is She?

Wtf Helen isn't sucking up to anyone

Ashleigh and Chris (as much as I love them) sucked up to her if anything (both of them pretending to care about Steven's eviction to please her even when they knew he'd said he was going to nominate them both)

..you know, fans can't have it all ways and that's all fans, not just one particular housemate...if it's described as 'sucking up' then they are all guilty of it equally, even though Ashleigh and Chris knew that Steven was going to nominate them, he was gone so there was no need to be vindictive and I don't believe they are vindictive people and I believe they do care that Steven had to be one of their choices as much as they would have cared of probably most of their fellow housemates at this point because I think they are all..(including Helen..)..tired of all the arguments etc and just trying their best to get along a bit better..so any nominations which are revealed are going to be something that regresses that understanding and I think they're all getting a bit upset about that atm...

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Who Is She?

Wtf Helen isn't sucking up to anyone

Ashleigh and Chris (as much as I love them) sucked up to her if anything (both of them pretending to care about Steven's eviction to please her even when they knew he'd said he was going to nominate them both)

Very well said, Ashleigh has been one of the most pathetic housemates in there for one major reason that hasn't changed all series really.
That is once she started doing something after over 2 weeks in there of being totally boring and sitting there saying and doing very little other than tasks

Everything bad she says about anyone, is behind their backs to someone else or in the diary room, she has never said what she claims she really thinks of anyone that is bad to their face.

Knowing that from watching her on BB, would leave me as thinking I would never really know what she thought of someone, so for em she is not someone to trust.
Last night Chris on the highlights was unbelievable too as to his sucking up to Helen.

Only the faults that Helen has get highlighted but she is far more easily read than the likes of devious Ashleigh for instance, where I doubt people can even really know where they really stand with her at all.

[Lwize]

Spin it anyway you like. It's abundantly clear Helen is defeated, and riding Ashleigh's coat tails is her last resort to curry favor with the voting public. Maybe she can move up a notch and be voted out in 4th place instead of 5th place.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Lwize

Spin it anyway you like. It's abundantly clear Helen is defeated, and riding Ashleigh's coat tails is her last resort to curry favor with the voting public. Maybe she can move up a notch had be voted out in 4th place instead of 5th place.

Ashleigh would be the last one she needs to ride the coat tail of if she was looking to curry favour theres 4 way ahead of her

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Ashleigh would be the last one she needs to ride the coat tail of if she was looking to curry favour theres 4 way ahead of her

Who, pray tell, are the 4 people that are supposedly 'way ahead' of Ashleigh ?

Ashleigh is the favourite by a long way with the Bookies, the Forum/Blog polls and every other way of judging viewers' favourite housemates!

Helen is eighth 'favourite' with the bookies, second from last with only Pav being less likely than her to win!
I'd have actually put her behind Pav as well!

Like someone said on BOTS tonight, as soon as the opportunity is there Helen WILL be voted out by the public and good riddance to her!

[jet]

Originally Posted by Lwize

Spin it anyway you like. It's abundantly clear Helen is defeated, and riding Ashleigh's coat tails is her last resort to curry favor with the voting public. Maybe she can move up a notch and be voted out in 4th place instead of 5th place.

Yes, they were saying something similar on BOTS tonight, that Ashleigh is the real alpha female and that is dawning on Helen.
Ashleigh got great comments on BOTS tonight - smart, tough, gorgeous, savvy...

[RockBottom]

Originally Posted by jet

Yes, they were saying something similar on BOTS, that Ashleigh is the real alpha female and it's now dawning on Helen.
Ashleigh got great comments on BOTS tonight - smart, gorgeous, savvy, tough.

You missed out some other comments. I shall fill you in as you seem to have a selective memory. Biggest game player, soft on the outside and hard in the inside, sly.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by RockBottom

You missed out some other comments. I shall fill you in as you seem to have a selective memory. Biggest game player, soft on the outside and hard in the inside, sly.

Totally

[jet]

Originally Posted by RockBottom

You missed out some other comments. I shall fill you in as you seem to have a selective memory. Biggest game player, soft on the outside and hard in the inside, sly.

WTH? I didn't see that. Maybe I had left the room which one has to do now and then. Who said it?
By the way, I kind of agree. I think Ashleigh is playing a cracking game, and she's as tough as nails. But I admire her for it as she isn't a bully or outright nasty and she is so mature and savvy for such a young girl.

[Heaven = Winner]

Helen has as much chance of winning as Kimberly does of claiming back her virginity.

[poppsywoppsy]

Helen wasn't entertaining, she was foul tempered and a bully, that is not entertainment and I wonder why it is referred to as such by some.

Her sarcastic remarks about anyone who does things she doesn't want, her dampening the spirits of others when she doesn't lead the conversation has lead to a sullen downtrodden house when it could have been full of fun and laughter, it has only had laughs on Helens terms which are at others expense.

Just think back to those awful days of Pauline,Helen and Toyah, arguments, bullying galore, they went ASAP, just like Helen deserves to go come final week in last place.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

Helen wasn't entertaining, she was foul tempered and a bully, that is not entertainment and I wonder why it is referred to as such by some.

Her sarcastic remarks about anyone who does things she doesn't want, her dampening the spirits of others when she doesn't lead the conversation has lead to a sullen downtrodden house when it could have been full of fun and laughter, it has only had laughs on Helens terms which are at others expense.

Just think back to those awful days of Pauline,Helen and Toyah, arguments, bullying galore, they went ASAP, just like Helen deserves to go come final week in last place.

I totally agree with everything you said there. Helen suppressed the other housemates with her bullish ways. It showed us the weak who just sat back and let her name call and put people down..although Winston stood up for Ashleigh.
People are deluded on here thinking she has 'been on a journey'....she knew if she didn't calm down she would be out...but only the other night she referred to Jale as a Fat something or other.
It's a shame...we all like a villain and she is vile but it could have been a better house without her in it because all those she suppressed by her behaviour could have shone.
Instead Ashleigh is heading for the win purely off the back of seeing Helen in the same light as we do...and unable to nominate her due to her immunity nominated her lapdog Ash...which annoyed her intensely. The public love Ashleigh for that....that's why Ashleigh must win.