[anne666]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Surely a judge isn't going to sign a search warrant to search Sir Cliff Richards house unless there is some damming evidence there. To do all of this on the say so from someone that alleges an incident occurred over 30 years ago is quite incredible.

It suggests other agendas are at play here. From what has been publicly disclosed on this it seems a grotesque overreaction.




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He has taken out a superinjunction against another unresolved "agenda".

[Sticks]

If he has taken out a super injunction, then he has obviously something to hide.

[GypsyGoth]

They should throw him off a cliff.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Sticks

If he has taken out a super injunction, then he has obviously something to hide.

Yes it makes matters worse

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Surely a judge isn't going to sign a search warrant to search Sir Cliff Richards house unless there is some damming evidence there. To do all of this on the say so from someone that alleges an incident occurred over 30 years ago is quite incredible.

It suggests other agendas are at play here. From what has been publicly disclosed on this it seems a grotesque overreaction.




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Not necessarily, many houses are searched in order to help substantiate circumstantial allegations/possible evidence into more concrete evidence.
They have this allegation/complaint from someone who was under 16 and in the 80s that would be an illegal sexual act.
They have to act on that since the revealing that these cases are now taken more seriously.

A search can be to help the accused as well a s the victim, if they find nothing or little that will be good for whose home is searched,however if it's thought possible that other offences may have been committed,searching the home of someone alleged to have committed a crime is one of the first ways of gathering evidence if any may exist.

No harm done really if it is known there is no evidence or anything else incriminating there to be found anyway.

This may have been alleged to have happened around over 30 years ago but as has been shown celebrities have been found guilty of historic abuses,some really serious too, and some have even pleaded guilty to some of those charges too.
So it has to be acted on and seen through once a complaint is made.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

They should throw him off a cliff.

oh dear here we go again!

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

They should throw him off a cliff.

oh you're such a Devil, woman

[anne666]

Originally Posted by Sticks

If he has taken out a super injunction, then he has obviously something to hide.

It's nothing short of farcical when the information is freely available on the internet. This has been covered up for over 30 years. Too many people in high places involved. I hope the current investigation into it, which began late 2012, achieves something at last.


http://www.onlinepublishingcompany.i...active_id/2571

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...tel-1980s.html

The alleged Jill Dando connection

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...nted-know.html

http://theduckshoot.com/is-the-73-ye...cliff-richard/

http://google-law.blogspot.co.uk/201...e-to-keep.html

[arista]

Saturdays


[ Cliff Richard 'is returning to Britain' to face
underage sex assault quiz by police as officers
say more people have come forward with information in past 24 hours]

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3AV0bpIGs

[anne666]

Originally Posted by arista

Saturdays


[ Cliff Richard 'is returning to Britain' to face
underage sex assault quiz by police as officers
say more people have come forward with information in past 24 hours]

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3AV0bpIGs

Good!!

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by anne666

It's nothing short of farcical when the information is freely available on the internet. This has been covered up for over 30 years. Too many people in high places involved. I hope the current investigation into it, which began late 2012, achieves something at last.


http://www.onlinepublishingcompany.i...active_id/2571

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...tel-1980s.html

The alleged Jill Dando connection

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...nted-know.html

http://theduckshoot.com/is-the-73-ye...cliff-richard/

http://google-law.blogspot.co.uk/201...e-to-keep.html

He befriended Jill Dando a couple of weeks before her death and was the last person who spoke to her, she was working on child abuse case at the time a,dn the massive cover up surrounding it, rumoured to include celebs ,Mps and Royalty

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

Saturdays


[ Cliff Richard 'is returning to Britain' to face
underage sex assault quiz by police as officers
say more people have come forward with information in past 24 hours]

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3AV0bpIGs

Hes not home yet how long is the flight from Lisbon ? 4 hours

[chuff me dizzy]

From Martin Brunt today martinbrunt
@skymartinbrunt

#cliff Sir Cliff has appeared in the grounds of his Algarve home with a tennis party of friends. - 16 Aug


No rush then Cliff ?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

He befriended Jill Dando a couple of weeks before her death and was the last person who spoke to her, she was working on child abuse case at the time a,dn the massive cover up surrounding it, rumoured to include celebs ,Mps and Royalty

The one I read on here Chuff mentioned a friend of the McCanns!

[anne666]

People in high places squealing about poor Cliff as well as the police naming the BBC which already knew about the investigation.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...k-9674023.html

The manner in which the police search was conducted was condemned by human rights barrister Geoffrey Robertson QC as "unacceptable".

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...e-9672367.html

Tosh. He's suspected of a very serious offence, what makes him any different, apart from is high profile connections.

MP's having their say

http://www.politicshome.com/uk/story...liff_raid.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...ism-grows.html

Is this all too close to home after all the years of successful cover up?

[arista]

Typical of Poxy BBC

Hide it away

Never put it on Newsnight

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

beginning to wonder whether the rules were different at the time. Whether they thought there was nothing wrong with going after younger people. Because all these accusations always date back to those times they don't really have victims from recent attacks. I'm not sure if it was because they're older now and too tired to try or they now understand the difference between right and wrong in terms of age.

Actually this would only apply if their victims were 15/16 anything underneath was always clearly unacceptable, even though various artists married younger kids in public like jerry lee lewis.

I think it's more to do with the fact that the victims are mature enough now to feel safe and comfortable admitting it, while younger more recent victims are still very traumatized by it.

It is common for victims to not admit the abuse til many years later if ever.

[Sticks]

What about False memory syndrome?

[Sticks]

Oops, whose side am I on

[LeatherTrumpet]

Well done Tony Blackburn for playing a cliff hit on radio 2 yesterday

[the truth]

Originally Posted by lostalex

I think it's more to do with the fact that the victims are mature enough now to feel safe and comfortable admitting it, while younger more recent victims are still very traumatized by it.

It is common for victims to not admit the abuse til many years later if ever.

its more common for people to lie about this in order to make money

[Nedusa]

Poor Cliff Richard is getting online abuse, he's got himself some spying talking tweeting walking living trolls....

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Poor Cliff Richard is getting online abuse, he's got himself some spying talking tweeting walking living trolls....

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by the truth

its more common for people to lie about this in order to make money

i don't think it is. If it was common to just lie then wouldn't there be thousands of women claiming it? every woman within a 50 miles radius could claim it if they wanted to, so there would be a lot more if women just wanted to lie for money.

you make it sound like claiming to be abused is winning the lottery. edit

[Sticks]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Poor Cliff Richard is getting online abuse, he's got himself some spying talking tweeting walking living trolls....

What about the poor victims

Abusers seldom abuse just one victim, as the trial of Rolf Harris and Stuart Hall proved.