[Dollface]

I hate to admit it...but he's growing on me too

[delta]

Originally Posted by Robodog

No way could he win.

Helen blew up now and then at people when she had a drink but then it was all over.

She didn't do what James does - 'lecture' people and act like their great helpful saviour on and on and on at them - then walk away and bitch about them or laugh at them and degrade them - whilst sober !

The only HM in the last series who did that was Pauline.

Helen was moody when drunk but she was always able to laugh at herself, reflect, be embarrassed about herself or put herself down.

James and Pauline are both totally full of themselves - and are never in wrong in their eyes. People like that never win BB.

In a nutshell.

For those that cannot differentiate between the two personalities, you need help.

All we are seeing now from Bully Elliot is a contrived personality, CBB have told him to try and show a lighter side, which even then he struggles with.

It's been totally biased editing for the last 3 days now, camera pans on Bully all of the time. Where's the likes of Audley, Edelle and even Frenchy been, in a parallel house?

I don't agree he's been a great house mate, his actions towards certain housemates are unforgettable and a leopard doesn't change its' spots. Look at what Kellie said in the diary room re: His reference to Bully's thoughts on Ola and his total disrespect for her. Which encapsulates Bully very well, hehas little respect for anyone other than hisover inflated opinion of himself and his fcuked up morals.

It would have been a far more interesting and balanced show if Leslie had remained in and Bully had been shown the door. What we are seeing now is a charade and I would hazard a guess he's still being as obnoxious and beligerant but CBB are no longer showing it.

How anyone can go from seeing how he behaved all the way through show to seeing a few contrived edited shows attempting to show him in a positive light really need to give themselves a good shaking.

He's one bad egg, as I keep repeating. He got kicked off strictly, he'always had an over inflated opinion of himself and a demeaning view of most others around him and to see him now tag onto Gary, who he despises, is embarrassing. Don't forget he threatened , in a subliminal way, to hit a 70 year old man and also not forgetting the words " I am not a baby sitter...

Christ, just thinming about all his antics makes my skin crawl. As the Daily Star headline of a few days ago stated ' Probably the most hated housemate ever to pass through the BB doors.

[Sophiee]

Originally Posted by delta

Christ, just thinming about all his antics makes my skin crawl. As the Daily Star headline of a few days ago stated ' Probably the most hated housemate ever to pass through the BB doors.

the daily star are always wrong anyway .

[nina73]

We'll how many of us ever thought Helen would win but with all the right editing and no chance of voting her out she got to the end and won so why not James

[mr rochester]

Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton

It seems that the winner of Big Brother has become pointless.

…and necessarily a bully...

[elliebrew]

We had sooooooo many complaints on here when Helen won. But look. The exact same thing is happening again.

[jet]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

We had sooooooo many complaints on here when Helen won. But look. The exact same thing is happening again.

It's not the same thing at all. Have you forgotten all that the sneering Helen said and did?
James has been patronizing and irritable with Gary, but he's not a bully. And he is the only one who sits and talks to him, helps him out when he can't hear what is being said and has fun with him. Doesn't sound like a bully to me.

[elliebrew]

Originally Posted by jet

It's not the same thing at all. Have you forgotten all that the sneering Helen said and did?
James has been patronizing and irritable with Gary, but he's not a bully. And he is the only one who sits and talks to him, helps him out when he can't hear what is being said and has fun with him. Doesn't sound like a bully to me.

ITS EXACTLY the same thing. A bad person gets a couple of good edits and suddenly the campaign for the villain win begins!

Helen was nowhere near as bad as James

[jet]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

ITS EXACTLY the same thing. A bad person gets a couple of good edits and suddenly the campaign for the villain win begins!

Helen was nowhere near as bad as James

[bots]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

Helen was nowhere near as bad as James

This. No way was Helen as bad as James. The house in general was attempting to bully Gary, with James the ringleader. However, it takes two for bullying to occur and Gary wouldn't allow them to bully him.

James now understands that Gary is popular and cannot be bullied, so he's stopped it. That doesn't make him a better person, he has just moved on to bad mouthing Kellie.

I see no redeeming qualities in James at all, Helen had loads.

[jet]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

This. No way was Helen as bad as James. The house in general was attempting to bully Gary, with James the ringleader. However, it takes two for bullying to occur and Gary wouldn't allow them to bully him.

James now understands that Gary is popular and cannot be bullied, so he's stopped it. That doesn't make him a better person, he has just moved on to bad mouthing Kellie.

I see no redeeming qualities in James at all, Helen had loads.

I see loads of redeeming qualities in James and none at all in Helen.
Different strokes for different folks.

Anyway, this thread isn't about Helen, so lets stay on topic.

I don't think James will win, Gary will - as he should!

[Kizzy]

He's still a twunt but I think gary's won him over... he seems to like chatting with him now.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by delta

It's all fake and the CBB bull sh!t machine is in over drive.

Whatever your thoughts on Kelly, she can see right through the opaque personality of Bully Elliot.

Bully Elliot!!!!:laug h:

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

He's still a twunt but I think gary's won him over... he seems to like chatting with him now.

That's what's so bewildering. If I could be paid to be in the same house as a Hollywood legend like Gary, I would spend every waking minute actually LISTENING to the guy. The anecdotes and stories he could relate would be enthralling, but these non-entities are too egotistical to appreciate as much, and have spent each waking hour collectively bullying Gary and trying to suppress his natural endearing personality and sense of humour, and it's all a little too late I'm afraid.

[jet]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

That's what's so bewildering. If I could be paid to be in the same house as a Hollywood legend like Gary, I would spend every waking minute actually LISTENING to the guy.The anecdotes and stories he could relate would be enthralling.

I'm not so sure. Gary doesn't seem to make a lot of sense sometimes. I think he's an endearing character in the house but I don't know that I'd want to spend every second listening to his puzzling sayings interspersed with barking.

[Pincho Paxton]

Originally Posted by jet

I'm not so sure. Gary doesn't seem to make a lot of sense sometimes. I think he's an endearing character in the house but I don't know that I'd want to spend every second listening to his puzzling sayings interspersed with barking.

He's barking mad! But glimpses of sense make up for it.

[delta]

Originally Posted by jet

I'm not so sure. Gary doesn't seem to make a lot of sense sometimes. I think he's an endearing character in the house but I don't know that I'd want to spend every second listening to his puzzling sayings interspersed with barking.

That's the problem they are all so filled with their self importance that they haven't bothered to get him to one side and really talk to him, it's all about ME,ME,ME.

Instead they have tried to intimidate him, belittle him, bully and harangue him, embarrass him and he's took it all with good humility.


Yes, he is going to be frustrating, a} because of his age and b} because of his impairment. But you have to accommodate people of his 'tender' years. They are all quick to say " he's not a team player" yet your team is only good as your weakest link and if you don't help that person along but instead ostracise him, then who is it that isn't a " team player".

Walk a mile in his shoes, before you criticise and abuse.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by delta

That's the problem they are all so filled with their self importance that they haven't bothered to get him to one side and really talk to him, it's all about ME,ME,ME.

Instead they have tried to intimidate him, belittle him, bully and harangue him, embarrass him and he's took it all with good humility.


Yes, he is going to be frustrating, a} because of his age and b} because of his impairment. But you have to accommodate people of his 'tender' years. They are all quick to say " he's not a team player" yet your team is only good as your weakest link and if you don't help that person along but instead ostracise him, then who is it that isn't a " team player".

Walk a mile in his shoes, before you criticise and abuse.

bRILLIANTLY PUT. i TOTALLY AGREE.

[tanussa]

Originally Posted by jet

I believe James has always liked Gary, and even though he annoyed the hell out of him, he was the only one who spent time with him and tried to help him, whereas the others (except Frenchy) stayed well out of his way. There was always a bond there, even if it was a dysfunctional one. Now, I think James has gotten used to Gary's ways and Gary has changed some of his bad habits too and settled down, so the bond has naturally gotten stronger. I love their relationship.

couldnt hav put it better, there always has to be a villain and unfortunately cos james is outspoken, hes been landed with the title. defo stands out from the remaining HMs as most ineresting to watch

[Angelika]

My Spirit Guide has been chatting to Gary's Spirit Guide who has been chatting to a pretty dancing lady's spirit Guide who is trying to get hold of her husband's Spirit Guide - apparently the husband's Spirit Guide is being kept very busy by said husband. The message coming through large and clear is please get James back home soonest.

Problem is James's Spirit Guide can't get through to him for all the non-stop chat he does about other housemates and he's so involved he's not hearing his Spirit Guide anymore. Please help!

[CaudleHalbard]

Well James did pretty well this evening.

2nd or 3rd place methinks..