[Beso]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Nah im totally comfortable with myself I just look at the bigger picture and gay culture and struggles since the 1950's and do not give a selfish attitude.

The younger gay generation are very disrespectful to the struggles gay people went through decades ago to get us where we are today actually they don't give those people a 2nd thought and tend to mock the older generation when they see them out in the clubs.

The point im making as Perez is using the homophobia card and when gay people want to be treated as equal how are we going to get that when theres fags like him in the world out to accuse everyone of being homophobic.

It really gives out the opinion that us gays can throw the homophobia card out there and use it to our advantage and its not true.

People will be afraid to say something to us incase they think we may get offended and that sucks.

I champion your conviction but still don't see perez throwing out these accusations left right and centre..with alex he has obviously looked into his background and seen that he can come across as homophobic so I guess when you couple that with his statements in the house then I think perez has every ri9ght to through out an accusation towards alexander, lets face it, it was alexanders own words, perez did not put them there for him.


I would be more upset (if I were gay) had perez not stood up to him..

[abhorson]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I champion your conviction but still don't see perez throwing out these accusations left right and centre..with alex he has obviously looked into his background and seen that he can come across as homophobic so I guess when you couple that with his statements in the house then I think perez has every ri9ght to through out an accusation towards alexander, lets face it, it was alexanders own words, perez did not put them there for him.


I would be more upset (if I were gay) had perez not stood up to him..

And the one yesterday?

He was using it for sick ends. Trying to make an HM look like a bigot. Badly backfired this time though.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by abhorson

And the one yesterday?

He was using it for sick ends. Trying to make an HM look like a bigot. Badly backfired this time though.

what one yesterday?

[Shaun]

It's not a direct link. It's not as clear cut as saying "if Perez does a bad thing, then everyone watching will hate gays". And the comparisons made here with "if Nadia did a bad thing everyone would hate straights!!!" are really just another tedious example of heterosexuals thinking they are in any way relevant, comparable or marginalised, lol.

I think from Michelle's viewpoint she spends 90% of her time living, working with drag queens and overly-dramatic people, but these are (for the most part) stage characters and masks that're put on for a show. She doesn't usually deal with these sorts of people (as hysterical and melodramatic as Perez) in a 24/7 environment. So she's quite used to distinguishing the "on-stage" and "off-stage" personalities of drag queens.

Whilst, yes, we should accept that people who identify as gay have a wide variety of personalities and some of them are going to be as toxically awful as Perez's, at the same time there are those who're 100% unfamiliar with gay people. I know this to be true, I'm surrounded by tiny little white villages where everyone's happily married and the gays are these weird little foreign identities. So the whole cause she's a part of is of a relevance that's different to every community. In New Jersey (where she's from), it's more of a case of "we want marriage equality", whereas in other places it's just the right to be represented and heard. I'm sure that 99% of people on here are able to see that Perez =/= all gays. I'm not sure that a lot of others are.

I don't know. I'm conflicted about the whole thing I can see why she's appalled and worried by the prospect of people judging a community by him, but at the same time obviously they shouldn't. It's just a question of whether they do. In my experience some do.

And obviously a lot of people are writing her off because of connected incidents with Alicia, and how she's aligned with Katie Hopkins. Believe me, I'm probably the most frustrated by the latter fact But they're really unrelated incidents.

[Crimson Dynamo]

well perez has put me off going gay

[Jack The Cat]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

well perez has put me off going gay

Perez would advise you to "Go Gay, For Pay".

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Jack The Cat

Perez would advise you to "Go Gay, For Pay".

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

well perez has put me off going gay

Im not bothering either

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Im not bothering either

that is 2 recruits down

not sure about Morsh though

[Pincho Paxton]

He's put me off cheese!

[chuff me dizzy]

He moved to New York City in 2013, stating, "I love New York and that is where me and my growing family want to call home right now".[108] Hilton was referring to his first child, Mario Armando Lavandeira III, born on February 16, 2013, conceived with a donor egg and carried by a surrogate mother.[109]



SURROGATE ,BOUGHT BABY

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I don't get the outrage, what is he doing that is offended so many homosexuals?

Breathing?

[abhorson]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

Breathing?

Don't discriminate, i think that too

[VanessaFeltz.]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

Breathing?