[-Sue-]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I bet his right arm ached after that ,dirty pervert

paparazzi do that too.. shall we get mad at them now?

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Nothing came of that, stop clutching at straws

May i had his stalking of people or all of his court cases or wishing death on people? I dont think thats being a great role model

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by adamski94

May i had his stalking of people or all of his court cases or wishing death on people? I dont think thats being a great role model

His antics in the house knowing cameras are on him must question his mental state

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by adamski94

May i had his stalking of people or all of his court cases or wishing death on people? I dont think thats being a great role model

Oh please, half of them in there are not great role models. My point still stands you have no idea what he is like with his kid and until you can prove what he is like with them then your points remain invalid.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by adamski94

Chances are he is not a safe man to be around infact he should be doing time in prison

le me get this straight.

You think he should have his child taken off him and he should be in prison?

And you have come to these decisions based on watching a television programme?

Seems you need a reality check or maybe a break from the tv for a while as the real world and television seemed to have merged into the same thing for you.

Am I going insane here?

[-Sue-]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Oh please, half of them in there are not great role models. My point still stands you have no idea what he is like with his kid and until you can prove what he is like with them then your points remain invalid.

exactly

[Denver]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

le me get this straight.

You think he should have his child taken off him and he should be in prison?

And you have come to these decisions based on watching a television programme?

Seems you need a reality check or maybe a break from the tv for a while as the real world and television seemed to have merged into the same thing for you.

Am I going insane here?

No he should be in prison for what he has done it real life

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by adamski94

No he should be in prison for what he has done it real life

And what is that exactly? Real life to you is what you read in the papers and see on tv as you do not know the guy. The whole Miley Cyrus thing? She was hardly a 12 year old kid was she.

Lets also put the people at Rolling Stone Magazine in prison for making Britney pose in her underwear whilst clutching a tellytubby when she was 17 years old.

Keep clutching.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by adamski94

In the USA if your under 18 your seen as a minor

Those comments underneath the article are very telling.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

And what is that exactly? Real life to you is what you read in the papers and see on tv as you do not know the guy. The whole Miley Cyrus thing? She was hardly a 12 year old kid was she.

Lets also put the people at Rolling Stone Magazine in prison for making Britney pose in her underwear whilst clutching a tellytubby when she was 17 years old.

Keep clutching.

Maybe check his back history he is a disguisting vile human being

[Dollface]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Oh please, half of them in there are not great role models. My point still stands you have no idea what he is like with his kid and until you can prove what he is like with them then your points remain invalid.

Opinions are opinions

[Vanessa]

Wow, i'm lost for words. Just when I think things can't sink any lower they so. Perez Hilton the public persona and the private one are not the same thing. Behind 4 walls he's just a dad, just like many.

[Jack_]

Why do the families and children of contestants on a reality gameshow get dragged into unnecessary, baseless and in fact quite nasty discussions every series? I agree with Daniel, some people really do take this show way too seriously.

I could quite easily sit here and say that Katie Hopkins is less fit to be a mother than Perez is to be a father since she'll indoctrinate her children with her ignorant, insulting and prejudiced opinions as well as likely making them a target for bullies with everything that she says, but I won't because I don't see into her private life and that's not a judgement for anyone but her children themselves to make. I'm sure most people wouldn't like their parents to be criticised by people they don't know like this, just because you don't like someone on a 48 minute television show that doesn't give you the right to slate someone's 24/7 real life parenting skills.

[sampvt]

If you google him it states there that his child is being reared by his mother in THEIR RENTED HOME, hardly the trsaits of a millionaire and smaks more of the child being used as a fashion accessory. Naturally he isn't as cookie in the home as he is in the house but what concerns me is that he feels the need to act like this just to get noticed and that smacks of a less than stable mind.

Personally I agree with many that say he is bipolar and in our world over here, nobody diagnosed of being bipolar would be allowed to adopt, but in the states babies can be bought and sold very easily.

[-Sue-]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Wow, i'm lost for words. Just when I think things can't sink any lower they so. Perez Hilton the public persona and the private one are not the same thing. Behind 4 walls he's just a dad, just like many.

evening (welcome to the madhouse) and well said

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Dollface

Opinions are opinions

Not disagreeing with that but when people state for a fact that he is an awful father when they have no idea is a very different thing. I'm still yet to see any of you prove this. But I guess that is too much to ask.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Why do the families and children of contestants on a reality gameshow get dragged into unnecessary, baseless and in fact quite nasty discussions every series? I agree with Daniel, some people really do take this show way too seriously.

I could quite easily sit here and say that Katie Hopkins is less fit to be a mother than Perez is to be a father since she'll indoctrinate her children with her ignorant, insulting and prejudiced opinions as well as likely making them a target for bullies with everything that she says, but I won't because I don't see into her private life and that's not a judgement for anyone but her children themselves to make. I'm sure most people wouldn't like their parents to be criticised by people they don't know like this, just because you don't like someone on a 48 minute television show that doesn't give you the right to slate someone's 24/7 real life parenting skills.

Jack, yet again speaking sense.

[-Sue-]

Originally Posted by sampvt

If you google him it states there that his child is being reared by his mother in THEIR RENTED HOME, hardly the trsaits of a millionaire and smaks more of the child being used as a fashion accessory. Naturally he isn't as cookie in the home as he is in the house but what concerns me is that he feels the need to act like this just to get noticed and that smacks of a less than stable mind.

Personally I agree with many that say he is bipolar and in our world over here, nobody diagnosed of being bipolar would be allowed to adopt, but in the states babies can be bought and sold very easily.

so being in a rented home doesn't make you a good father?
ahh you read it on the internet must be true silly me

[-Sue-]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Why do the families and children of contestants on a reality gameshow get dragged into unnecessary, baseless and in fact quite nasty discussions every series? I agree with Daniel, some people really do take this show way too seriously.

I could quite easily sit here and say that Katie Hopkins is less fit to be a mother than Perez is to be a father since she'll indoctrinate her children with her ignorant, insulting and prejudiced opinions as well as likely making them a target for bullies with everything that she says, but I won't because I don't see into her private life and that's not a judgement for anyone but her children themselves to make. I'm sure most people wouldn't like their parents to be criticised by people they don't know like this, just because you don't like someone on a 48 minute television show that doesn't give you the right to slate someone's 24/7 real life parenting skills.

Thank you Jack great post well put

[Dollface]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Not disagreeing with that but when people state for a fact that he is an awful father when they have no idea is a very different thing. I'm still yet to see any of you prove this. But I guess that is too much to ask.

It's not a different thing, it's still someones opinion. I haven't said anything about Perez's parenting skills because i don't know what I think about that yet so i wont be providing proof, but nobodies opinion can be "invalid" - proof or no proof.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by -Sue-

so being in a rented home doesn't make you a good father?
ahh you read it on the internet must be true silly me

So we are wrong and your right yet you dont know anything about him so how can everyone say he is a great father

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Not disagreeing with that but when people state for a fact that he is an awful father when they have no idea is a very different thing. I'm still yet to see any of you prove this. But I guess that is too much to ask.

Wasn't Fred West regarded as a doting father way back when before he was uncovered. mmmmmm

[Pincho Paxton]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Wasn't Fred West regarded as a doting father way back when before he was uncovered. mmmmmm

He loved his kids....

Spoiler:

...that was the problem.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Dollface

It's not a different thing, it's still someones opinion. I haven't said anything about Perez's parenting skills because i don't know what I think about that yet so i wont be providing proof, but nobodies opinion can be "invalid" - proof or no proof.

When they say he is a bad father based solely for his actions in the house then yes, that makes the point invalid as that has no reflection on what he is like with his kid.

[-Sue-]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Wasn't Fred West regarded as a doting father way back when before he was uncovered. mmmmmm

wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy off topic!

and even you would admit uncalled for...