[Tom4784]

I strongly disagree with all the posts in this thread that's that the family should stand accused and/or face some sort of punishment because of guilt by association. This man doesn't speak for his family and, unless there's evidence to suggest otherwise, his family should be free of suspicion.

If they were a white christian family they would not face such scrutiny.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I strongly disagree with all the posts in this thread that's that the family should stand accused and/or face some sort of punishment because of guilt by association. This man doesn't speak for his family and, unless there's evidence to suggest otherwise, his family should be free of suspicion.

If they were a white christian family they would not face such scrutiny.

They are and
so far have not left there West London Home
I think they should do a exclusive to the Guardian Paper.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I strongly disagree with all the posts in this thread that's that the family should stand accused and/or face some sort of punishment because of guilt by association. This man doesn't speak for his family and, unless there's evidence to suggest otherwise, his family should be free of suspicion.

If they were a white christian family they would not face such scrutiny.

I have given my reasons why I personally feel that his family and friends are not innocents in this matter and they are based on logical assumption - not irrational prejudice.

I am not advocating punishing them in any way, but I feel that I have a right to state my suspicions.

As for; "If they were a white Christian family" this is inverted racism, but the reason "it would not face such scrutiny" is that it is not 'White Christians' who are currently committing atrocity after atrocity all over the world, so the contention is inapplicable.

This war is not a religious one, nor a racist one, nor even a Muslim one - it is one started by inhuman barbaric monsters against the rest of humanity - including poor Muslims.

[sassysocks]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I strongly disagree with all the posts in this thread that's that the family should stand accused and/or face some sort of punishment because of guilt by association. This man doesn't speak for his family and, unless there's evidence to suggest otherwise, his family should be free of suspicion.

If they were a white christian family they would not face such scrutiny.

Most damaged/evil men are the product of their upbringing. In other words their families/parents are rarely innocent in their crimes. You can't defend the undefendable. Honestly I don't know whether to laugh or cry at such naivity!

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by sassysocks

Most damaged/evil men are the product of their upbringing. In other words their families/parents are rarely innocent in their crimes. You can't defend the undefendable. Honestly I don't know whether to laugh or cry at such naivity!

You're presenting baseless speculation as fact so do not brand me naive when you're making snap judgments based on nothing but your own prejudice.

There is no reason to believe that the family is involved at this point, if there was any valid reason to do so then you can bet we would have heard about it by now but since there isn't then there's no point in condemning them.

[sassysocks]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

You're presenting baseless speculation as fact so do not brand me naive when you're making snap judgments based on nothing but your own prejudice.

There is no reason to believe that the family is involved at this point, if there was any valid reason to do so then you can bet we would have heard about it by now but since there isn't then there's no point in condemning them.

Most disturbed people are the product of their upbringing. That expression does not come from nowhere, it comes from fact. Ask any psychologist.
You are as blinkered as you accuse me of being.

As another poster has pointed out, do you really think his parents didn't know their own son, even with the mask. I would be surprised if they don't condone and support his actions. He is clearly a deeply disturbed individual - how could any decent parent fail to recognise that. More likely they are part of the problem.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by sassysocks

Most disturbed people are the product of their upbringing. That expression does not come from nowhere, it comes from fact. Ask any psychologist.
You are as blinkered as you accuse me of being.

As another poster has pointed out, do you really think his parents didn't know their own son, even with the mask. I would be surprised if they don't condone and support his actions. He is clearly a deeply disturbed individual - how could any decent parent fail to recognise that. More likely they are part of the problem.

By blaming his family you're just turning them into a scapegoat for his actions. You are absolving this man of his guilt by even thinking of blaming anyone but him for his own actions.

Sometimes people are just bastards even if they have a good upbringing, Parents can only do so much, not every psychopath has a tragic backstory. His family is not responsible for his actions, he is not a child. He's a grown ass monster that committed these atrocities of his own accord.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by sassysocks

Most damaged/evil men are the product of their upbringing. In other words their families/parents are rarely innocent in their crimes. You can't defend the undefendable. Honestly I don't know whether to laugh or cry at such naivity!

I do not think we can blame the parents for their sons obvious psycopathy, this is a serious mental affliction which is most definitely nature not nurture.

I do think however the parents have some serious questions to ask as they would certainly have been well aware of their sons growing psychopathic nature.

Psychopathy is very hard to mask especially in adolescence where the behaviour starts to become harder to suppress. Almost certainly they would have been aware of his strange cruel erractic behaviour and it is no credit to them that they decided to ignore his growing problems and turn a blind eye.

It beggars belief that this man did not receive medical help as a teenager and that his obvious psychopathic nature was allowed to be nutured and develop under the backdrop of radical religious extremism.

This radicalisation finally allowing this man's evil psychotic mindset to manifest itself in his brutal murderous actions.

[arista]

Ch4HD News is now telling us about his Emails
about Tanzania

[coffee]

Why the F is there no photos anywhere of his face?
If we know who he is now then the families home should be raided and all photos published for everyone to see!

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by coffee

Why the F is there no photos anywhere of his face?
If we know who he is now then the families home should be raided and all photos published for everyone to see!

An excellent point Coffee.

[arista]

Originally Posted by coffee

Why the F is there no photos anywhere of his face?
If we know who he is now then the families home should be raided and all photos published for everyone to see!

[arista]

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by arista

This is what so infuriates me about this Arista; this cunt looks like he couldn't fight Micky Mouse in a one-on-one, but because he is group handed and armed to the teeth, he acts like some brave, superhero over bound and weaponless outnumbered men - some of who would most certainly beat him senseless in a fair fight.

It reminds me of pimply faced weedy Nazi's manhandling Jews in the concentration camps - some of who would have have whupped their asses in different circumstances.

Fecking sickening.

[Johnnyuk123]

If anyone hates Great Britain so much why live here in the first place?

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

If anyone hates Great Britain so much why live here in the first place?

Exactly Johnny.

[Firewire]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

If anyone hates Great Britain so much why live here in the first place?

He was born here

[arista]

Originally Posted by Firewire

He was born here

No he was not
he came here at 6 years old
Born In Kuwait

[Firewire]

Originally Posted by arista

No he was not
he came here at 6 years old
Born In Kuwait

Oh oops

[arista]

The Words of this Front Page
speak for many of us

[arista]

[arista]

[Schoolboy: Mohammed Emwazi,
also known as the merciless
killer Jihadi John, is pictured here
at secondary school]

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3T2MDMEPi

[arista]

Sure he like Sports
but had Anger problems
and Turned after getting to Syria Isis HQ



He is a Walking Dead Man

[Crimson Dynamo]

yes and its all the security services fault

That Cage charity needs to be shut down asap

[Kazanne]

Why do people keep saying he is British?he's not ,he was born in Kuwait he just lived here for a while.