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Old 29-03-2015, 03:30 PM #1
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You're probably not a great example if your going for the "grew up normal" angle.
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i played with toy guns as a child and read war comics, watched war movies and cowboy and indian films and so far I have not killed anyone
And my cousin, who was brought up with kid gloves and never allowed toy guns, action man figures or anything that could be deemed as violent, managed to get hold of an air rifle when he was 16 and took a pot shot at someone through his bedroom window. This resulted in armed police surrounding the house whilst my aunty was cooking the Sunday roast and a my cousin (little goodie two shoes) being unceremoniously dragged off to the police station.
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And toy guns are based on what?
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Why is the screen size/resolution so important?
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Why is the screen size/resolution so important?


Because it inspires more
Looks more real.
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Currently playing this.Unlocking the double barrel shotgun in mp is a bitch.
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There is obviously an established pattern emerging, if this is how the school wish to tackle the issue if some parents refuse to acknowledge the seriousness of the problem manifesting then as guardians too they have that right.
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Oh well let's ignore any psychological analysis and criminal profiling.
This could be part...a big one, I agree cherie with the Bulger case of a 'perfect storm' of violence.
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Police Threat Over Children Playing Adult Games

A letter sent to parents in Nantwich warns letting children play adult games could be "neglect" and could see them reported.

http://news.sky.com/story/1454885/po...ng-adult-games


same story as Kizzys first link post

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I hope these schools get done for wasting the police's time if they actually ever go through with this. It's honestly ridiculous and I don't understand why anyone would defend this.
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Schools themselves are largely to blame for spawning a violent, prejudiced troupe of pre teen non compos mentis lunatics. They are petri dishes of unchallenged bullying and impassive, imagination starved education modules and combined with the absence of any decent parents either to help steer the sails the whole affair becomes a ticking time bomb.

So in essence they should worry about what's going on in their own damn yards. Or actually take cues from developers like Rockstar who've managed to actually program some semblance of cultural narrative into their own particular output.
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loony left being loonies again........... oh wait, it's not. because most of us agree that it's none of the schools business
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If the school believe that video games are having a detrimental effect on behaviour, they should advise parents of this but they cannot control what children do outside of school time IMO. Obviously, they have set protocols for behaviour issues which would then be followed if the behaviour did not improve. It seems crazy to think that parents would be reported just for the children claiming to have played these games....I claimed to have watched V (TV series) when I was in primary school because loads of kids said they watched it, truth was I wasn't allowed but it didn't stop me saying I watched it. Not quite sure how a school would prove a child was actually playing the game anyway....if it's in the house surely the parent could be the owner / player....
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I watched Robocop when i was about 9,Still not murdered anyone yet.
One film that did actually scare the **** out of me though was Nightmare on Elm Street.I would'nt recommend that to kids,I did'nt sleep properly after that for a good week.
My 3 year old has watched me play Battlefield and he loved it,All the tanks,planes and choppers etc and Call of Duty but he was bored by that.Leave it to parents.
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I don't think the school should have the power to do anything, but it's fair for them to advise it, when GTA V came out a letter was sent out at a local school asking parents not to let their children play it, it was very polite and I'm sure it didn't stop most people. My nephew who attends the school is 10 and he has played GTA, Bioshock and other games with guns/weapons/swearing etc.. and from my experience he is polite and knows the difference between fiction and reality, but unfortunately that's not the case for all children, he has said that some children in his class do act out unsavoury scenes from these games. So my point is, it really depends on whether the child is mature enough and if games effect them. The schools shouldn't have the power to do anything about it, because from my experience every situation is different.
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Eldest daughter played the new tomb raider with me when she was 3. Sorrynotsorry.
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5 year olds take on GTA (watching, not playing, her controller dexterity is frankly shameful...)

"What do you think this game is about? "
" You punch people then run away. "
" do you like the game? "
" yeah it's funny! Punch that one! "
" would you ever do that for real? "
" No daddy that's not nice it could hurt someone!! "
" You said it was funny... "
" Daddy! That's just a game! "


Just about sums the whole issue up for me really. Maybe don't let thick kids play games? Most kids are perfectly capable of making the distinction.

I'm not a fan of age ratings in general, I watched a lot of 15 and 18 rated films from around age 8... I despised kids films. Which ironically, I now quite like (both my daughters abandonned "How To Train Your Dragon" and I ended up watching it alone. Same with "Wreck It Ralph" ).

But my favourites included things like Terminator 2, Total Recall, Robocop, Rambo 1 and 2... You may be beginning to see the 80's action theme... Haha. But yes, anyway. Individuality. Age ratings are arbitrary and nonsensical. Parents shouldn't force their kids to grow up too soon, but nor should they shelter them and try to keep them childlike for as long as possible.
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Well no it's just a Video Game, it's not like it's gonna turn them into a killer is it?

Anything like that happens then it's all down to the parents and the School imo for not teaching the child right from wrong.
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A video game/horror movie may have inspired Bulger's killers in the some of the details of their crime but they would've committed that crime with or without that movie.

To quote Scream, "Movies don't create psychos, movies make psychos more creative".

If someone's going to commit such acts, they'll do so anyway. A movie or a video game can't and so far hasn't created any mentally unbalanced people from someone who was entirely normal beforehand.

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There are precisely two things that can create a ****ed up person. Mental illness, and **** parents. Sometimes a combination of the two. It's hardly ever anything else, there can be other influences, places that messed up people draw inspiration from, but the source of them being messed up in the first place it's a safe bet will simply be down to one of those two things.

Only other realistic cause is severe trauma / post traumatic stress disorders but you could reasonably include those as a form of mental illness.
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If you remove the video games then it becomes the fault of that movie they watched or that tv show they love. Aggressive people existed before technology and aggressive people continue to exist today, now they just have an excuse!
Those kids who grew up in the Middle Ages learned to go crusading from playing Medieval Total War on the PC I tell you.
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18+ Scary movies and games were the main things I was interested in as a child so if that was the case my mum would be on death row or something

but no, it's none of the teachers business to report it
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schools are more interested in you dress code or taking money from your parents for taking you on holiday, and now this silly daft thing, but teachers are not interested in bullying or being tough on pupils bad behaviour, teachers have no real thought of what reality is, or how tough it is in the real world,
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schools are more interested in you dress code or taking money from your parents for taking you on holiday, and now this silly daft thing, but teachers are not interested in bullying or being tough on pupils bad behaviour, teachers have no real thought of what reality is, or how tough it is in the real world,
Not only that, they're not particularly interested in academic ability either, so long as all of the kids meet the same generic landmarks designed for "average kids". They're more interested in punishing kids for fidgeting or speaking out of turn, or congratulating little Bobby for knowing what healthy choices to make at lunch time, than in recognising any real achievement.

Obedience and conformity, and being dragged down to the lowest common denominator, that's the name of the game. And then they wonder why our young people aren't excelling.
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