[Rorkimaru]

I'm not defending any of Marc's past behaviour here, I'm just talking about the argument that caused Brian to leave.

Mark was one of the first to try and calm Helen down and to object when she said rapist and murderer. Prior to that anything Marc said during to argument was at most on par with what Brian and Nikki were saying. He seemed genuinely and IMO fairly surprised when they said his behaviour was wholly inappropriate. It does seem like they were reaching with the example of him saying psycho. It's not a nice thing to say but Brian wasn't exactly being nice either.

[joeysteele]

No, not for me and Brian was acting like he was deranged anyway.

Climbing over a wall when all you had to do was go to the diary room and insist on leaving.
So much too for his false concern for Nikki,leaving her there on her own.

[Rorkimaru]

Climbing the wall is just baying for attention. It's not even an original move, it was controversial like, 8 years ago or something but now it's just a repeat. He could walk out through the diary room but no, he wanted to go out with a bang and sell some interviews. Plus being first out means his side is heard first.

[Josy]

Nope

[ItWasJustBanter]

I don't think so. He was being truthful with Brian and AGAIN Brian flew into a rage when they were just having a discussion.

[BB4fan]

Originally Posted by ItWasJustBanter

I don't think so. He was being truthful with Brian and AGAIN Brian flew into a rage when they were just having a discussion.

Exactly and not only did he throw his hideous temper around at Helen but he also kept doing it to Marc who was just trying to be civil with the git.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by BB4fan

Exactly and not only did he throw his hideous temper around at Helen but he also kept doing it to Marc who was just trying to be civil with the git.

Brian, like the rest of us, is entitled to have a temper and to loose it when provoked. Marc wasn't in any way civil, he was doing what most bullies gangs do, backing the vile leader.

Any defence of Helen's behaviour is frankly delusional and its quite scary to think that there are people on here who would condone that.

[BB4fan]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Brian, like the rest of us, is entitled to have a temper and to loose it when provoked. Marc wasn't in any way civil, he was doing what most bullies gangs do, backing the vile leader.

Any defence of Helen's behaviour is frankly delusional and its quite scary to think that there are people on here who would condone that.

It's disgusting to defend a bad tempered man with a violent temper.

[Denver]

No when has calling someone a psychopath warranted a warning in the house?

[LukeB]

Yes tbh.

[Visage]

I'm surprised he hasn't been warned so far, but even more surprised by him receiving one this evening. From what I could tell he was trying to calm Helen down not make the argument carry on.

[hannah.]

Originally Posted by Visage

I'm surprised he hasn't been warned so far, but even more surprised by him receiving one this evening. From what I could tell he was trying to calm Helen down not make the argument carry on.

This.

Also he was an absolute weasel tonight but didn't do anything that warranted a warning, IMO. Helen absolutely did without doubt, however. They should have had her in the diary room well before Brian could have climbed the wall.

[Rorkimaru]

Originally Posted by Visage

I'm surprised he hasn't been warned so far, but even more surprised by him receiving one this evening. From what I could tell he was trying to calm Helen down not make the argument carry on.

Exactly my point. Warning him tonight was very surprising in my opinion. I could be wrong but I feel like others have used the word psycho previously in this season, or at least synonyms, both Marc and others and occasionally directed at Marc yet this time it's not ok. Just a confusing choice for them to have made.

[Shaun]

Not tonight, no. But other times...

Also, on the subject of archetypal dickheads with multiple warnings and yet no ejection, how many has he had now?

[Angelika]

Very definitely - he is by his own admission an educated man with science degrees - he knows where the boundaries are. If he doesn't he should be taught where they are.

I'm surprised he wasn't thrown out to be honest.

[Rorkimaru]

Originally Posted by Angelika

Very definitely - he is by his own admission an educated man with science degrees - he knows where the boundaries are. If he doesn't he should be taught where they are.

I'm surprised he wasn't thrown out to be honest.

What did he do or say that was worse than the stuff Brian came at him with?

[abhorson]

Of course he did. He has only survived because as always with new HM's, they get two weeks, then BB fixed it so he got two more.

When he goes up, they will switch to VTS. Might as well be Helen, all over again with the final pass.

[Jack_]

He didn't get a warning, it was a reprimand. Had it been a warning I'd have disagreed cause he definitely wasn't as bad as Helen but I think a reprimanding was fair enough

[Chilltown]

Originally Posted by Jack_

He didn't get a warning, it was a reprimand. Had it been a warning I'd have disagreed cause he definitely wasn't as bad as Helen but I think a reprimanding was fair enough

Yeah, they never officially warned him in the DR.

[bots]

yes, he did deserve the warning because he was part of the goading team of him and helen. Clearly, it wasn't as bad as what Helen said, which should have ended her legend stint immediately, but he was complicit on the undeniable verbal attack on Brian.

For people who say he reacted badly, i say to you, would you accept someone publicly saying that about you? I think not.

[Vicky.]

I don't think he did anything wrong tbh, Helens was obviously deserved though. I just made a thread about this which I shall now delete

[Rorkimaru]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I don't think he did anything wrong tbh, Helens was obviously deserved though. I just made a thread about this which I shall now delete

Helen's was absolutely deserved. I agree with that. She allowed herself to get played and then she danced harder to the tune than anyone could have hoped for. Of course Marc is going to suffer the consequences despite him trying to stop her.

[Iceman]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I don't think he did anything wrong tbh, Helens was obviously deserved though. I just made a thread about this which I shall now delete

After I wrote out a lengthy reply for post of the year

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Eoin

After I wrote out a lengthy reply for post of the year

Sorry

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Eoin

After I wrote out a lengthy reply for post of the year

I have done that loads,spent a fair while doing one of my 'essays' and then finding the thread is closed when I try to submit it.
It has happened twice tonight.

I thought I was being told something.