[Tanser_Man]

Originally posted by easypeasy
danielle reckons it takes an hour to make mashed potates.........

Be crap mashed potatoe!

Soft and Fluffy... it takes me double that!

[Rory]

lol, I love how danielle is complaining about Shilpa's cooking.

That ********* b****

[arista]

Originally posted by The_Hitman
Gods sake is this stupid chicken nonsense the most interesting thing thats happened!!!! Time to switch over!

Do not
a Fight is later on.

[Rory]

I can't wait until the argument is shown.

[Slartibartfast]

Chicken looked cook to me.

Apparently you have to be careful with chicken. Jade especially has to be careful with chicken. She was outsmarted by one once and she's has never been the same around them since.

[arista]

Originally posted by Rory
I can't wait until the argument is shown.

Yes it was on the Live Internet Feed.

But they will edit bits of it to fit,
on the UK ch4 show.

[The_Hitman]

Originally posted by The_Hitman
Gods sake is this stupid chicken nonsense the most interesting thing thats happened!!!! Time to switch over!

Thankfully i turned back in time to hear Jades rant about Eskimos!

[easypeasy]

let me guess......shilpa is involved in this arguement??????????

[arista]

Originally posted by easypeasy
let me guess......shilpa is involved in this arguement??????????

Well yes.

Jade and others
had it out with her.

But they will have to Edit Air Head Chav Jade
because she goes round in a circle when
she rants.
Repeats the same words over and over.

[smartiepants]

jade dosnt even have general knowledge, east angilar? whats that about ?
now all of a sudden she's an expert in cooking chicken!!! she's just got a big chavy mouth, might've learnt a thing or two since she was last in, but still aint got no self respect, esp with danielle egging her on

[ttw]

Everyone's saying so what she cooked the chicken wrong? But the reason they're so pissed off is cos they blatently told her how to do it and she ignored them..
And the only reason Shilpa has cooked all the food is cos she won't let anyone else... the other housemates have said this already.

And I hope everyone calling Jade a chav hasn't been involved in calling anyone racist against Shilpa.. cos then well, it'd just be like the pot calling the kettle black, seeing as chav is a prejudice term.

[Slartibartfast]

Originally posted by ttw
Everyone's saying so what she cooked the chicken wrong? But the reason they're so p****d off is cos they blatently told her how to do it and she ignored them..
And the only reason Shilpa has cooked all the food is cos she won't let anyone else... the other housemates have said this already.

And I hope everyone calling Jade a chav hasn't been involved in calling anyone racist against Shilpa.. cos then well, it'd just be like the pot calling the kettle black, seeing as chav is a prejudice term.

Excellent point about the use of the term "chav" It's another term that shows prejudice and discrimination except that chav is treating someone differently because of their social class rather than the colour of their skin. Both are just as reprehensible though.

[James]

I think racism is much worse than calling someone a 'chav'.

As I understand the term it doesn't simply refer to someone from a lower social class, but of a particular way of behaving.

[Slartibartfast]

They're both terms which single someone out because they are different than the "norm" (whatever the hell the norm is!!)

Britain has long been obsessed with class and I find chav is a term used to mark someone out as coming from a particular social class, although behaviour is also a factor. They're both prejudicial terms, it's just that our society seem more comfortable discriminating against someone becuase of class whereas the same actions over skin colour or nationality doesn't sit so comfortably with people.

[tinkerbell]

its jus chicken seriously!!! nd danielle is makin it the end of the world!

[arista]

Originally posted by tinkerbell
its jus chicken seriously!!! nd danielle is makin it the end of the world!

Yes Danielle , Jo
and Air head Jade

are a Gang now.

[Smeggypants]

Originally posted by Slartibartfast

Excellent point about the use of the term "chav" It's another term that shows prejudice and discrimination except that chav is treating someone differently because of their social class rather than the colour of their skin. Both are just as reprehensible though.

Nonsense. Althugh Chav is normally seen as a council estate hoodie it mainly refers to someone's personality and behaviour. You can come from a 'disadvantaged social class' and not be a chav.

I hate racism, but I'll quite happily call Jade a chav. because she is one.

[Ruth]

Originally posted by Slartibartfast
Chicken looked cook to me.

Apparently you have to be careful with chicken. Jade especially has to be careful with chicken. She was outsmarted by one once and she's has never been the same around them since.

LMFAO!!!

That chicken looked cooked to me as well btw.

[ttw]

Originally posted by Smeggypants

Nonsense. Althugh Chav is normally seen as a council estate hoodie it mainly refers to someone's personality and behaviour. You can come from a 'disadvantaged social class' and not be a chav.

I hate racism, but I'll quite happily call Jade a chav. because she is one.

Well then your just ignorant.
Chav is a subcultural stereotype.

It is not at all mainly used to refer to someone's personality and behaviour exclusively, it refers to a whole subculture in which the word includes the way the person dresses, their "status", where they come from, the way in which they lead their lives, and also includes their personality and behaviour.

The word in itself is demeaning , and the use of the word is prejudice when used in any circumstance.

If it was just about their behaviour and personality you could call Paris Hilton a chav, but you wouldn't would you.

[ttw]

Originally posted by Smeggypants

Nonsense. Althugh Chav is normally seen as a council estate hoodie it mainly refers to someone's personality and behaviour. You can come from a 'disadvantaged social class' and not be a chav.

I hate racism, but I'll quite happily call Jade a chav. because she is one.

Admin edited that out...
Chav is a subcultural stereotype.

It is not at all mainly used to refer to someone's personality and behaviour exclusively, it refers to a whole subculture in which the word includes the way the person dresses, their "status", where they come from, the way in which they lead their lives, and also includes their personality and behaviour.

The word in itself is demeaning , and the use of the word is prejudice when used in any circumstance.

If it was just about their behaviour and personality you could call Paris Hilton a chav, but you wouldn't would you.

[The_Hitman]

Originally posted by ttw

Admin edited that out...
Chav is a subcultural stereotype.

It is not at all mainly used to refer to someone's personality and behaviour exclusively, it refers to a whole subculture in which the word includes the way the person dresses, their "status", where they come from, the way in which they lead their lives, and also includes their personality and behaviour.

The word in itself is demeaning , and the use of the word is prejudice when used in any circumstance.

If it was just about their behaviour and personality you could call Paris Hilton a chav, but you wouldn't would you.

Definitely. Paris Hilton is a chav.

The point is, chav is used to describe personality traits such as rudeness, ignorance and disrespect just as much as it describes the image of cheap jewellry, leisure wear, Lambert and Butler and baseball caps.

Being a chav is something that you choose to be, and people from a council estate can choose not to be a chav. The difference with racism, is that it is the irrational discrimination of someone simply for their nationality or the colour of their skin.

So yes, both are discriminatory terms, but it could be argued that 'chav' has connotations of encouragemnet (i.e. better yourself and we wont call you a chav) but racism is out and out intolerance. Theres a huge difference.

[James]

I thought 'Chavs' basically means young people who are anti-social. Paris Hilton is a party-girl who is famous for being famous - she doesn't exactly cause much offense to anyone.

If 'Chav' is an unacceptable term to describe Jade maybe 'horrible, ignorant, nasty bully' would do.

[ttw]

Originally posted by The_Hitman

Definitely. Paris Hilton is a chav.

The point is, chav is used to describe personality traits such as rudeness, ignorance and disrespect just as much as it describes the image of cheap jewellry, leisure wear, Lambert and Butler and baseball caps.

((YES BUT A CHAV IS NOT ONE WITHOUT THE OTHER, THE WORD WAS CREATED WITH THE IMAGE ALONG WITH PERSONALITY TRAITS AS ONE, YOU COULD PICK OUT ONE CHAV AND GENERALISE A WHOLE GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO LOOK THE SAME AS THIS PERSON AS THE WORD IS USED TO PREJUDICE A CERTAIN GROUP OF A CERTAIN "CLASS"))

Being a chav is something that you choose to be, and people from a council estate can choose not to be a chav. The difference with racism, is that it is the irrational discrimination of someone simply for their nationality or the colour of their skin.

((I THINK YOU'LL FIND JADE NO LONGER LIVES ON A COUNCIL ESTATE))

So yes, both are discriminatory terms, but it could be argued that 'chav' has connotations of encouragemnet (i.e. better yourself and we wont call you a chav) but racism is out and out intolerance. Theres a huge difference.

(((No no no, chav is a word of encouragement??.. there are many people out there who say " im not racist towards black people i just don't like n****** " this is used in reference to the stereotype of black people from a poor community who dress a certain way, listen to a certain type of music, and act a certain way. You would not say that the word n****r is therefore a word of encouragement.)))

AND DISCRIMINATION ON ANY LEVEL IS UN ACCEPTABLE, YOU CLEARLY JUST STATED THAT CHAV IS A DISCRIMINATORY TERM YOURSELF, THEREFORE IT IS WRONG TO USE IT AGAINST ANYONE.

[The_Hitman]

Originally posted by ttw

(((No no no, chav is a word of encouragement??.. there are many people out there who say " Im not racist towards black people i just don't like n****** " this is used in reference to the stereotype of black people from a poor community who dress a certain way, listen to a certain type of music, and act a certain way. You would not say that the word n****r is therefore a word of encouragement.)))

AND DISCRIMINATION ON ANY LEVEL IS UN ACCEPTABLE, YOU CLEARLY JUST STATED THAT CHAV IS A DISCRIMINATORY TERM YOURSELF, THEREFORE IT IS WRONG TO USE IT AGAINST ANYONE.

Nonsense. The world is not black and white sweetheart. Learn to understand the shades of grey.

[ttw]

Originally posted by The_Hitman

Nonsense. The world is not black and white sweetheart. Learn to understand the shades of grey. [/quote]

Hm, your comment has absolutely no substance to me "sweetheart".. please explain what you mean by the shades of grey I am missing out..

Are you sayin "chav" is not a prejudice word?

Is it not used, especially by the media, to tarnish a subculture of a poorer community, and does it not lead to generalisation and stereotypical views.

Isit because it is not used as a direct term for someone's colour, so it therefore doesn't matter.

As, if Jade is a chav, and as that is what she is, you can therefore call her a chav and it is acceptable, why is it not acceptable for Jackiey to call Shilpa "the indian girl" if she has trouble pronouncing her name, as that is what she is now isn't? Sweetheart