[Kizzy]

They latched onto that pretty quick didn't they? I understood it as he would be as likely to have Latinos in his employ as anyone.
She is still a voter and as such is allowed to have an opinion on this 'politician' whether she is fat, thin or an ex addict is entirely irrelevant.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

They latched onto that pretty quick didn't they? I understood it as he would be as likely to have Latinos in his employ as anyone.
She is still a voter and as such is allowed to have an opinion on this 'politician' whether she is fat, thin or an ex addict is entirely irrelevant.

no one said she isn't allowed to have an opinion. but having an opinion, especially a loud one also means everyone else has the right to have an opinion on you. welcome to freedom of speech.

[Livia]

Of course she's allowed her opinion. The difference is that she's been encouraged to blurt out that opinion on TV when she is too stupid to engage the clutch of tact between her mouth and her brain. I'm sure there are millions of slack-jawed non-thinkers in the US they could have asked... but they chose her purely because her Dad's Ozzy Osborne and her mother is Sharon Osborne. Bizarre...

[Kizzy]

The context was twisted is all, it's obvious. Suggesting she and many Americans are too dim to have an opinion on Mr Trumps comments... He's made gaffes that would make prince Phillip gasp :/
How about we begin to apply those lofty standards to those in positions of responsibility?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

The context was twisted is all, it's obvious. Suggesting she and many Americans are too dim to have an opinion on Mr Trumps comments... He's made gaffes that would make prince Phillip gasp :/
How about we begin to apply those lofty standards to those in positions of responsibility?

I never suggested she and many Americans are too dim to have an opinion, I said they probably shouldn't necessarily have their opinions broadcast on TV. I can't remember the last time Prince Philip was on a chat show like that so I have no idea why you're trying to mix the two.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

I never suggested she and many Americans are too dim to have an opinion, I said they probably shouldn't necessarily have their opinions broadcast on TV. I can't remember the last time Prince Philip was on a chat show like that so I have no idea why you're trying to mix the two.

Because I can, who is qualified to have an opinion on politicians and the silly things they say?
That's what instigated this whole debate, Trumps racist attitude... Suddenly that's all forgotten due to an out of context remark

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

The context was twisted is all, it's obvious. Suggesting she and many Americans are too dim to have an opinion on Mr Trumps comments... He's made gaffes that would make prince Phillip gasp :/
How about we begin to apply those lofty standards to those in positions of responsibility?

i disagree that prince phillip would gasp. i have a feeling if trump ever did become prez and he visited the palace, phil and the donald would get along like gangbusters.

I'm not sure which is more embarrassing, having an idiot head of state that didn't get elected, or one that was. either way, both citizenships are a joke.

[Moosething]

She ain't no shazza

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Moosething

She ain't no shazza

Which can only be a good thing.

Sorry, I'm really not a fan of that woman.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Lolz white people and embedded supremacy. Sometimes they don't realize they have it and it spurts out like diarrhoea at inappropriate times.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by ithinkiloveyoutoo

lolz white people and embedded supremacy. Sometimes they don't realize they have it and it spurts out like diarrhoea at inappropriate times.

thats what youre doing now

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by the truth

thats what youre doing now

But it's true. How can something so offensive and degrading just flow so freely out of her mouth like that? Of all the things she could attach to Latinos, cleaning a white man's toilet was all she could think of.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

Lolz white people and embedded supremacy. Sometimes they don't realize they have it and it spurts out like diarrhoea at inappropriate times.

How is generalising and stereotyping "white people" not racist?

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

How is generalising and stereotyping "white people" not racist?

it IS ignorant and it is racist. Its also usually blamed on old white men, so its sexist racist and ageist....but that's fine because 1) theyre white and 2) theyre men

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

How is generalising and stereotyping "white people" not racist?

Black people can't be racist.

[the truth]

Trumps words were taken out of context by hysterical media, osbournes words were over hyped by hysterical media...the only thing i like about kelly is her calves

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by the truth

Trumps words were taken out of context by hysterical media, osbournes words were over hyped by hysterical media...the only thing i like about kelly is her calves

and this.

Youtube video

[Kizzy]

Youtube video

[the truth]

maybe we need to redefine the term racism

[Kizzy]

It already has a definition, some just need to comprehend it.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It already has a definition, some just need to comprehend it.

it needs to be reclarified and redefined...it seems that `the original meaning was to defend and free certain people from discrimination, there seems to be little covering the alleged oppressed groups from discriminating themselves and little to cover what constitutes reasonable or proportional action in retaliation against said oppression. the same with sexism it only seems to work one way, which is wrong and unfair

[Ninastar]

'The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.'

That is the definition of racism. There's no mention of a specific colours. Anyone can be racist. No matter what colour they are. To suggest otherwise is naive and ridiculous. Some cases of racism may be worse than others, but that doesn't mean that it shouldn't be taken as seriously.

[Ninastar]

If you don't think white people can experience racism, then move to some parts of America. I have a friend who's had to move over there because her husband works there and she says she's never felt so unwelcome and hated in her life.

I went through it when I was a kid... If you haven't lived there, you just cannot say.

Yes, I know it sounds ridiculous that a white person can face racism, but when you're made to feel hated/unwelcome/left out/etc etc based on your skin colour, then it's racism either way. Racism has no colour.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Chaos

If you don't think white people can experience racism, then move to some parts of America. I have a friend who's had to move over there because her husband works there and she says she's never felt so unwelcome and hated in her life.

I went through it when I was a kid... If you haven't lived there, you just cannot say.

Yes, I know it sounds ridiculous that a white person can face racism, but when you're made to feel hated/unwelcome/left out/etc etc based on your skin colour, then it's racism either way. Racism has no colour.

That is prejudice not racism.

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

That is prejudice not racism.

In your opinion, that is. But by definition, it is racism.