[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

The way some of you are treating your own atheism is the same way countries like Saudi Arabia treat Islam - forcing it upon everyone, and denying others the opportunity to display their own religion in a way that they feel comfortable, which should be allowed and encouraged in a modern democracy such as our own. It's the same people who criticise religious oppression in these countries who seem to have no problem doing it here so long as it's supportive of atheism, is that not hugely hypocritical?

Excellently put JoshBB

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

The way some of you are treating your own atheism is the same way countries like Saudi Arabia treat Islam - forcing it upon everyone, and denying others the opportunity to display their own religion in a way that they feel comfortable, which should be allowed and encouraged in a modern democracy such as our own. It's the same people who criticise religious oppression in these countries who seem to have no problem doing it here so long as it's supportive of atheism, is that not hugely hypocritical?

This tbh.

[Dollface]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

The advert should be allowed imo, along with any other religion that wishes to make an advert - so long as there is nothing political or hateful in it.

It may be worth reminding that we are 'officially' a christian country, although since striving towards being more secular seems to be more popular nowadays.. and that means having all religions (and non-religions) on an equal status, not banning religion from display like france has. That would be state-atheism.

Originally Posted by JoshBB

The way some of you are treating your own atheism is the same way countries like Saudi Arabia treat Islam - forcing it upon everyone, and denying others the opportunity to display their own religion in a way that they feel comfortable, which should be allowed and encouraged in a modern democracy such as our own. It's the same people who criticise religious oppression in these countries who seem to have no problem doing it here so long as it's supportive of atheism, is that not hugely hypocritical?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

The way some of you are treating your own atheism is the same way countries like Saudi Arabia treat Islam - forcing it upon everyone, and denying others the opportunity to display their own religion in a way that they feel comfortable, which should be allowed and encouraged in a modern democracy such as our own. It's the same people who criticise religious oppression in these countries who seem to have no problem doing it here so long as it's supportive of atheism, is that not hugely hypocritical?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

The way some of you are treating your own atheism is the same way countries like Saudi Arabia treat Islam - forcing it upon everyone, and denying others the opportunity to display their own religion in a way that they feel comfortable, which should be allowed and encouraged in a modern democracy such as our own. It's the same people who criticise religious oppression in these countries who seem to have no problem doing it here so long as it's supportive of atheism, is that not hugely hypocritical?

So you would support an "atheism advert" in cinemas pointing out that not not everyone feels the need to pray and that not everyone believes in God? That it's OK to go against your family and your elders and say "No, actually I don't think any of this is true"? THAT would be the anti-religious parallel to this... but I very much doubt you would support it.

(Even though it's something that many children raised in religious environments desperately need to hear)

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

The way some of you are treating your own atheism is the same way countries like Saudi Arabia treat Islam - forcing it upon everyone, and denying others the opportunity to display their own religion in a way that they feel comfortable, which should be allowed and encouraged in a modern democracy such as our own. It's the same people who criticise religious oppression in these countries who seem to have no problem doing it here so long as it's supportive of atheism, is that not hugely hypocritical?

Its hardly a level playing field. The promotion of religion around the world is hardly comparable to to the promotion of atheism,. There are TV channels in some countries entirely devoted to religious teaching, I dont see such similar promotion for atheism

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Its hardly a level playing field. The promotion of religion around the world is hardly comparable to to the promotion of atheism,. There are TV channels in some countries entirely devoted to religious teaching, I dont see such similar promotion for atheism

That's because religions tend to have teachings and stories, whereas atheism does not because of the nature of it being that you have nothing set-out to follow.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

That's because religions tend to have teachings and stories, whereas atheism does not because of the nature of it being that you have nothing set-out to follow.

Buit the teachings and stories maybe false,

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Buit the teachings and stories maybe false,

Just as they may be true. Your point?

[arista]

"own atheism is the same way countries like Saudi Arabia treat "


Rubbish
This is a Thread
I have No Machine Gun pointing at anyone

[armand.kay]

Jesus what a massive overreaction I really don't see much wrong with that advert.

[AProducer'sWetDream]

Agree totally with JoshBB. I'm an atheist, and have no problem with this advert being shown. Should all Richard Dawkins programmes be banned? What about Stephen Hawking? Or Brian Cox? Or anybody else who states that the Universe is older than 6000 years, juts to avoid offending the theists of the world?

[Ninastar]

Beautifully said, Josh. You have a brilliant way with words

[GiRTh]

The ad isnt too bad but IMO right decision to ban it, imagine the outcry if it was a similar ad promoting Islam. We must not advertise religion. None of them. If you want reigion then go and find it. Isnt that the whole point of religion? That you find your spirituality and not that you saw an ad at your local cinema.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

The ad isnt too bad but IMO right decision to ban it, imagine the outcry if it was a similar ad promoting Islam. We must not advertise religion. None of them. If you want reigion then go and find it. Isnt that the whole point of religion? That you find your spirituality and not that you saw an ad at your local cinema.

Very true, if it was Islam there'd be petitions and people screaming bloody murder. It's Christianity though so that's okay for some reason.

Religion has no place in advertising.

[Johnnyuk123]

Absolutely right to ban it. Please ban Christmas next.

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

Absolutely right to ban it. Please ban Christmas next.

Now now Johnny..I want my cuddle off Santa, leave Christmas alone.

[Dollface]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

Absolutely right to ban it. Please ban Christmas next.

Your sig is kinda Christmasy for someone who wants to ban Christmas

[Marsh.]

"Offend people of no faith"



Yeah because I'm sure someone who doesn't believe is offended by a 30 second ad with a priest and a prayer.

And here was me thinking the religious were supposed to be the intolerant ones.

[user104658]

Errr... yeah... let's not have cult-y brainwashing propaganda playing before family films, thanks.

Only a "believer" (i.e. a cult member) could watch that video and think it's OK. To a non-believer, I'm going to be blunt, it's creepy as ****. If you want to get on your knees and say special words to men in the sky then by all means go for it, but please, keep it in your own home where it belongs.

I enjoy the cinema. I go on my own, on weekdays when school is in, so that the place is almost empty. It's one of my few hobbies that I have to unwind. I do NOT want the experience ruined by being forced to remember that religion exists just before the bloody film starts.

[AProducer'sWetDream]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Errr... yeah... let's not have cult-y brainwashing propaganda playing before family films, thanks.

Only a "believer" (i.e. a cult member) could watch that video and think it's OK. To a non-believer, I'm going to be blunt, it's creepy as ****. If you want to get on your knees and say special words to men in the sky then by all means go for it, but please, keep it in your own home where it belongs.

When were you elected spokesperson for every non-believer? I'm an atheist, and I think it's fine, so please don't try and speak for us all...

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by AProducer'sWetDream

When were you elected spokesperson for every non-believer? I'm an atheist, and I think it's fine, so please don't try and speak for us all...

I'm also agnostic and think it's fine.

[Dollface]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Errr... yeah... let's not have cult-y brainwashing propaganda playing before family films, thanks.

Only a "believer" (i.e. a cult member) could watch that video and think it's OK. To a non-believer, I'm going to be blunt, it's creepy as ****. If you want to get on your knees and say special words to men in the sky then by all means go for it, but please, keep it in your own home where it belongs.

I enjoy the cinema. I go on my own, on weekdays when school is in, so that the place is almost empty. It's one of my few hobbies that I have to unwind. I do NOT want the experience ruined by being forced to remember that religion exists just before the bloody film starts.

so much hate

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Dollface

so much hate

The vast majority of the true hatred in the world is perpetrated in the name of various religions.

What I have is despair, not hatred.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

The vast majority of the true hatred in the world is perpetrated in the name of various religions.

What I have is despair, not hatred.

Disparagingly referring to anyone who subscribes to this religion as part of a "cult" and "creepy" says otherwise.

I find it rather laughable that people insist on claiming that religion is the source of hatred and ignorance while being guilty of those very attitudes themselves.