[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

The way some of you are treating your own atheism is the same way countries like Saudi Arabia treat Islam - forcing it upon everyone, and denying others the opportunity to display their own religion in a way that they feel comfortable, which should be allowed and encouraged in a modern democracy such as our own. It's the same people who criticise religious oppression in these countries who seem to have no problem doing it here so long as it's supportive of atheism, is that not hugely hypocritical?

Excellently put JoshBB

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Bang goes our freedom of speech again!

It's literally got nothing to do with Freedom of Speech but okay. The advert hasn't been banned, it just won't be shown in cinemas. Good thing too, religion based advertising shouldn't be a thing.

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Not everyone believes it's lies,I take it you don't do Christmas at yours then LT ?

Only a small percentage of people in the UK actually celebrate the holiday for religious reasons and most of them lie about it for a chance to be self righteous and to look down on others.

Christmas day is an excuse from presents, overeating, getting pissed and ruining relationships.

Jesus Christ has nothing to do with it anymore.

[armand.kay]

Jesus what a massive overreaction I really don't see much wrong with that advert.

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

The way some of you are treating your own atheism is the same way countries like Saudi Arabia treat Islam - forcing it upon everyone, and denying others the opportunity to display their own religion in a way that they feel comfortable, which should be allowed and encouraged in a modern democracy such as our own. It's the same people who criticise religious oppression in these countries who seem to have no problem doing it here so long as it's supportive of atheism, is that not hugely hypocritical?

This tbh.

[AProducer'sWetDream]

Agree totally with JoshBB. I'm an atheist, and have no problem with this advert being shown. Should all Richard Dawkins programmes be banned? What about Stephen Hawking? Or Brian Cox? Or anybody else who states that the Universe is older than 6000 years, juts to avoid offending the theists of the world?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It's literally got nothing to do with Freedom of Speech but okay. The advert hasn't been banned, it just won't be shown in cinemas. Good thing too, religion based advertising shouldn't be a thing.



Only a small percentage of people in the UK actually celebrate the holiday for religious reasons and most of them lie about it for a chance to be self righteous and to look down on others.

Christmas day is an excuse from presents, overeating, getting pissed and ruining relationships.

Jesus Christ has nothing to do with it anymore.

Yes he does to a vast amount of people,and to call some of them liars is low,but no need for people to feel inferior,we are all entitalled to our beliefs without malice !!

[Ninastar]

Beautifully said, Josh. You have a brilliant way with words

[Dollface]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

The advert should be allowed imo, along with any other religion that wishes to make an advert - so long as there is nothing political or hateful in it.

It may be worth reminding that we are 'officially' a christian country, although since striving towards being more secular seems to be more popular nowadays.. and that means having all religions (and non-religions) on an equal status, not banning religion from display like france has. That would be state-atheism.

Originally Posted by JoshBB

The way some of you are treating your own atheism is the same way countries like Saudi Arabia treat Islam - forcing it upon everyone, and denying others the opportunity to display their own religion in a way that they feel comfortable, which should be allowed and encouraged in a modern democracy such as our own. It's the same people who criticise religious oppression in these countries who seem to have no problem doing it here so long as it's supportive of atheism, is that not hugely hypocritical?

[GiRTh]

The ad isnt too bad but IMO right decision to ban it, imagine the outcry if it was a similar ad promoting Islam. We must not advertise religion. None of them. If you want reigion then go and find it. Isnt that the whole point of religion? That you find your spirituality and not that you saw an ad at your local cinema.

[Johnnyuk123]

Absolutely right to ban it. Please ban Christmas next.

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

Absolutely right to ban it. Please ban Christmas next.

Now now Johnny..I want my cuddle off Santa, leave Christmas alone.

[Dollface]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

Absolutely right to ban it. Please ban Christmas next.

Your sig is kinda Christmasy for someone who wants to ban Christmas

[Marsh.]

"Offend people of no faith"



Yeah because I'm sure someone who doesn't believe is offended by a 30 second ad with a priest and a prayer.

And here was me thinking the religious were supposed to be the intolerant ones.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

The way some of you are treating your own atheism is the same way countries like Saudi Arabia treat Islam - forcing it upon everyone, and denying others the opportunity to display their own religion in a way that they feel comfortable, which should be allowed and encouraged in a modern democracy such as our own. It's the same people who criticise religious oppression in these countries who seem to have no problem doing it here so long as it's supportive of atheism, is that not hugely hypocritical?

[user104658]

Errr... yeah... let's not have cult-y brainwashing propaganda playing before family films, thanks.

Only a "believer" (i.e. a cult member) could watch that video and think it's OK. To a non-believer, I'm going to be blunt, it's creepy as ****. If you want to get on your knees and say special words to men in the sky then by all means go for it, but please, keep it in your own home where it belongs.

I enjoy the cinema. I go on my own, on weekdays when school is in, so that the place is almost empty. It's one of my few hobbies that I have to unwind. I do NOT want the experience ruined by being forced to remember that religion exists just before the bloody film starts.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

The way some of you are treating your own atheism is the same way countries like Saudi Arabia treat Islam - forcing it upon everyone, and denying others the opportunity to display their own religion in a way that they feel comfortable, which should be allowed and encouraged in a modern democracy such as our own. It's the same people who criticise religious oppression in these countries who seem to have no problem doing it here so long as it's supportive of atheism, is that not hugely hypocritical?

So you would support an "atheism advert" in cinemas pointing out that not not everyone feels the need to pray and that not everyone believes in God? That it's OK to go against your family and your elders and say "No, actually I don't think any of this is true"? THAT would be the anti-religious parallel to this... but I very much doubt you would support it.

(Even though it's something that many children raised in religious environments desperately need to hear)

[AProducer'sWetDream]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Errr... yeah... let's not have cult-y brainwashing propaganda playing before family films, thanks.

Only a "believer" (i.e. a cult member) could watch that video and think it's OK. To a non-believer, I'm going to be blunt, it's creepy as ****. If you want to get on your knees and say special words to men in the sky then by all means go for it, but please, keep it in your own home where it belongs.

When were you elected spokesperson for every non-believer? I'm an atheist, and I think it's fine, so please don't try and speak for us all...

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

The way some of you are treating your own atheism is the same way countries like Saudi Arabia treat Islam - forcing it upon everyone, and denying others the opportunity to display their own religion in a way that they feel comfortable, which should be allowed and encouraged in a modern democracy such as our own. It's the same people who criticise religious oppression in these countries who seem to have no problem doing it here so long as it's supportive of atheism, is that not hugely hypocritical?

Its hardly a level playing field. The promotion of religion around the world is hardly comparable to to the promotion of atheism,. There are TV channels in some countries entirely devoted to religious teaching, I dont see such similar promotion for atheism

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by AProducer'sWetDream

When were you elected spokesperson for every non-believer? I'm an atheist, and I think it's fine, so please don't try and speak for us all...

I'm also agnostic and think it's fine.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

So people will sit through adverts for things they don't need or will never buy, not to mention trailers for awful movies they will never watch, but would walk out over a religious advert

Laughable isn't it?

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Its hardly a level playing field. The promotion of religion around the world is hardly comparable to to the promotion of atheism,. There are TV channels in some countries entirely devoted to religious teaching, I dont see such similar promotion for atheism

That's because religions tend to have teachings and stories, whereas atheism does not because of the nature of it being that you have nothing set-out to follow.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Maybe that's a good point, if this is allowed then we could see an avalanche of religious and political messages shoehorned into advertising space.
I wonder how much the production and ad time that message cost...
It begs the question with all the social inequality,suffering and need both in the UK and worldwide how is this spend justified?

Yeah I am disgusted by the Hollywood movie budget used in this one advert.

And the nice clean clothes the priest is wearing. He could've cured world hunger with those, damn it.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

That's because religions tend to have teachings and stories, whereas atheism does not because of the nature of it being that you have nothing set-out to follow.

Buit the teachings and stories maybe false,

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

telling lies to children is not freedom of speech

it is telling lies to children

So I take it you never told your kids Santa crept into their house on Christmas Eve and left them presents? LIAR!

[Dollface]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Errr... yeah... let's not have cult-y brainwashing propaganda playing before family films, thanks.

Only a "believer" (i.e. a cult member) could watch that video and think it's OK. To a non-believer, I'm going to be blunt, it's creepy as ****. If you want to get on your knees and say special words to men in the sky then by all means go for it, but please, keep it in your own home where it belongs.

I enjoy the cinema. I go on my own, on weekdays when school is in, so that the place is almost empty. It's one of my few hobbies that I have to unwind. I do NOT want the experience ruined by being forced to remember that religion exists just before the bloody film starts.

so much hate