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Old 09-01-2016, 03:21 PM #1
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I remember you vehemently and passionately arguing that what goes on outside the house should not come into it and housemates should be solely judged on what they do inside the house. Why are you making an exception in Winston's case?
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I'm truly taken aback by your intellectually rigid, well written and thought out reaponse. How ever will I respond to something which has challenged my opinion and left me wondering how to defend it?

On-season really is a remarkable time on here for multiple reasons, isn't it.
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Winston clearly had more votes than Nancy. That alone should tell you that there are lots of people who do like him and do agree with his reasonable views.
'I don't agree with gay people adopting' is a reasonable (albeit outdated) view.

'Gay adoption is child abuse' is offensive and is anything but reasonable.
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'I don't agree with gay people adopting' is a reasonable (albeit outdated) view.

'Gay adoption is child abuse' is offensive and is anything but reasonable.
i thought you were one that advocated not being influenced by events outside the house ... no? If so, then you would have to be against the setup that happened by the producers.
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'I don't agree with gay people adopting' is a reasonable (albeit outdated) view.

'Gay adoption is child abuse' is offensive and is anything but reasonable.
Depriving a child of a mother figure is abusive. That is my opinion and the opinion of many people.

And most importantly, it is an opinion that Winston is entitled to hold without being bullied and harassed.
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Depriving a child of a mother figure is abusive. That is my opinion and the opinion of many people.

And most importantly, it is an opinion that Winston is entitled to hold without being bullied and harassed.
If that was his rationale then why not state that instead of harping on about Christianity?... pfft!
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Depriving a child of a mother figure is abusive. That is my opinion and the opinion of many people.

And most importantly, it is an opinion that Winston is entitled to hold without being bullied and harassed.
Interesting how you've assumed that all gay people are men

Gender roles are a social construct and do not exist. Fact.

Yours and Winston's justification for the use of the word 'abuse' is nothing more than a masquerade for its actual meaning, which at worst implies gay people are paedophiles (a common homophobic insult) and at best that it's neglect of a child. Neither are at all acceptable. Believe that gay adoption shouldn't be allowed all you want, but start using words like 'abuse' and you become deliberately offensive and you will be rightly ripped apart.

The people who are crying and screaming about Winston's 'unfair' treatment just need to come out and admit that gay people scare them and that they share his views.

Thankfully these opinions are dying out with the people who hold them, and it won't be long until they're gone for good.

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Gender roles are a social construct and do not exist. Fact.
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Interesting how you've assumed that all gay people are men

Gender roles are a social construct and do not exist. Fact.

Yours and Winston's justification for the use of the word 'abuse' is nothing more than a masquerade for its actual meaning, which at worst implies gay people are paedophiles (a common homophobic insult) and at best that it's neglect of a child. Neither are at all acceptable. Believe that gay adoption shouldn't be allowed all you want, but start using words like 'abuse' and you become deliberately offensive and you will be rightly ripped apart.

The people who are crying and screaming about Winston's 'unfair' treatment just need to come out and admit that gay people scare them and that they share his views.

Thankfully these opinions are dying out with the people who hold them, and it won't be long until they're gone for good.
So there is no such thing as a man and a woman ,they are both the same
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Interesting how you've assumed that all gay people are men

Gender roles are a social construct and do not exist. Fact.

Yours and Winston's justification for the use of the word 'abuse' is nothing more than a masquerade for its actual meaning, which at worst implies gay people are paedophiles (a common homophobic insult) and at best that it's neglect of a child. Neither are at all acceptable. Believe that gay adoption shouldn't be allowed all you want, but start using words like 'abuse' and you become deliberately offensive and you will be rightly ripped apart.

The people who are crying and screaming about Winston's 'unfair' treatment just need to come out and admit that gay people scare them and that they share his views.


Thankfully these opinions are dying out with the people who hold them, and it won't be long until they're gone for good.
Think this is a VERY unfair comment here mind Jack. I think Winston was treat appallingly and blatantly set up for the fall. I disagree completely with his views too. And gay people do not scare me either.
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Interesting how you've assumed that all gay people are men

Gender roles are a social construct and do not exist. Fact.

Yours and Winston's justification for the use of the word 'abuse' is nothing more than a masquerade for its actual meaning, which at worst implies gay people are paedophiles (a common homophobic insult) and at best that it's neglect of a child. Neither are at all acceptable. Believe that gay adoption shouldn't be allowed all you want, but start using words like 'abuse' and you become deliberately offensive and you will be rightly ripped apart.

The people who are crying and screaming about Winston's 'unfair' treatment just need to come out and admit that gay people scare them and that they share his views.

Thankfully these opinions are dying out with the people who hold them, and it won't be long until they're gone for good.
Scared of gay people ? seriously
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Depriving a child of a mother figure is abusive. That is my opinion and the opinion of many people.

And most importantly, it is an opinion that Winston is entitled to hold without being bullied and harassed.
If someone is literally removing a mother from her child's life for no reason then fine, obviously noone would agree with that. But your point completely ignores the fact that children who are up for adoption are living in care homes and have NO parents. How anyone can suggest that living with no parents is better than having gay parents is beyond me, let alone suggest that the latter is akin to abuse. He should have to explain his views, for the simple reason that they don't make any sense.
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If someone is literally removing a mother from her child's life for no reason then fine, obviously noone would agree with that. But your point completely ignores the fact that children who are up for adoption are living in care homes and have NO parents. How anyone can suggest that living with no parents is better than having gay parents is beyond me, let alone suggest that the latter is akin to abuse. He should have to explain his views, for the simple reason that they don't make any sense.
He clearly stated his views were Christian. We live in a Christian country. Why should he have to explain them at all. Muslims aren't asked to explain all the vile things in the Quran are they?
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The leftist media are totally mis-portraying the attitudes of people in this country. If you think this country is all pro gay marriage and pro immigration etc then you are sorely mistaken.

Remember when that petition to bar Trump from the UK got 500,000 signatures? Well another petition at the same time to stop immigrants being allowed into this country got 550,000 signatures.
I definitely do not think this at all. And the majority of the media is about as far away from being 'left' as you can be

I know many disagree with gay marriage and such, hell even some of my gay friends don't give a crap about gay marriage (and one gay guy I know actually disagrees with it, rather than not caring about it)

I have also seen the bar immigrants petition, and vaguely heard about the trump one. The trump one is a ****ing joke to be quite honest. I don't understand why people think he should be barred from the country just for being a twat...


--However, the BB viewing audience is largely/mostly gay friends or actually gay. As such I don't think many would have voted for winston as they agree with his views.

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Depriving a child of a mother figure is abusive. That is my opinion and the opinion of many people.

And most importantly, it is an opinion that Winston is entitled to hold without being bullied and harassed.
Gay adoption can arguably mean giving a child 2 mothers, rather than depriving them of one

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'I don't agree with gay people adopting' is a reasonable (albeit outdated) view.

'Gay adoption is child abuse' is offensive and is anything but reasonable.

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But Millions do say that
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I have always believed that sexuality is a choice.

Can I expect Emma round to tell me off?
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I have always believed that sexuality is a choice.

Can I expect Emma round to tell me off?
Same here, Ive popped the kettle on in case she calls in mine ,Im very sociable
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Same here, Ive popped the kettle on in case she calls in mine ,Im very sociable
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I have always believed that sexuality is a choice.
And I think that sums you up...
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I have always believed that sexuality is a choice.

Can I expect Emma round to tell me off?
Would you ever think of challenging your own beliefs by doing some research on the subject?

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Would you ever think of challenging your own beliefs by doing some research on the subject?
What research would you suggest?
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But I have seen research showing that psychopathy is innate. Should psychopaths have all their human rights and be kept out of jail because they didn't choose to be psychopaths?
So you've both chosen to be straight then? As in, you recognise that you have gay feelings but you're choosing to suppress them? Or is it just gay people who are choosing their sexuality, because they're psychopaths? Really, this thread is a total mess
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