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Crimson Dynamo · 21-01-2016, 10:20 AM

I didnt cry at my father funeral.

jet · 21-01-2016, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

..wow, what a cruel, cold-hearted thing to say to someone..I didn't cry when my father died and I didn't cry through my mother's illness but YOU made me cry...that really did reach the lowest low...it could be said that says more about him than it does her..(and she's pretty darn grim as well..)...his emotions are all about him..me, me, me, don't you dare make me unhappy...self-centred...but really he didn't cry for his parents/when his dad dies/when his mum became ill etc so maybe, just maybe he's so very much needed that cry, that release of emotions that being in the BB house has given...so not really a bad thing, the crying in itself bursting to come out..ok, the trigger to it may not be the best and has made him feel miserable but it may still have been a trigger that was so needed....it's not just that though, it's the whole irony of what he so cruelly said...YOU MADE ME CRY, THAT'S HOW AWFUL YOU ARE....well, you would only say something as cruel as that if you wanted to really, really upset someone, if you wanted to project something that you feel back on them out of spite..so basically to try and make them cry...she didn't cry, well she hasn't atm...but that's what something like that was designed to do....she's grim, he's grim, they're as grim as each other and as me, me, me as each other....and not really seeing that the house/being in the house could be something that they could take positives from, releases that they both may need...

I was pretty horrified at that. Basically it came across as if he was saying to Gemma that my Dad's funeral and my Mum's illness didn't affect me as emotionally as your treatment of ME! I doubt that is true, but it was a callous thing to do to use his parents death and illness to try to hurt someone else. Up until that point I thought his intentions with Darren's nomination could be genuine, but now I think he plays mind games to gain control over others. He's not only arrogant but ruthless too...

rusticgal · 21-01-2016, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel-X

It was done to clearly try and paint Gemma as some evil cold hearted bastard and win over the public. He's very calculated and knows what he is doing.

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To tally agree....in fact by making that comment only emphasised his fakeness. Why would you cry over Gemma Collins who tbf hasn't exactly been nasty...and not cry at your fathers funeral or your mothers demise

He is playing a massive game. Now he is being everyone's best mate in there.

the truth · 21-01-2016, 12:40 PM

I think it was a fair point. the man cares for his sick mother around the clock, that makes him a hero in my eyes. none of these other selfish muppets would bother, bully Collins cant even bend her gargantuan anus to pick up a cup

Kazanne · 21-01-2016, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal

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To tally agree....in fact by making that comment only emphasised his fakeness. Why would you cry over Gemma Collins who tbf hasn't exactly been nasty...and not cry at your fathers funeral or your mothers demise

He is playing a massive game. Now he is being everyone's best mate in there.

I think it just emphasised just how bad she had made him feel,he never once said he didn't care about his father,I think this is just another convenient stick to beat him with,we don't all cry at funerals,but we cry if someone pisses us off enough,we only see 45mins,he's with her 24/7

Tom4784 · 21-01-2016, 12:47 PM

He's indefensible.

the truth · 21-01-2016, 12:58 PM

[QUOTE=Dezzy;8448224]He's indefensible.[/QUOTE)

Wrong, he is indefatigable.

jet · 21-01-2016, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne

I think it just emphasised just how bad she had made him feel,he never once said he didn't care about his father,I think this is just another convenient stick to beat him with,we don't all cry at funerals,but we cry if someone pisses us off enough,we only see 45mins,he's with her 24/7

But you are missing the point Kazanne. I am sure he does care about his father and mother very much; it's the fact that he used their death and illness to get at Gemma. He could just have told her he rarely cries, end of story, but he used his own parents to make a big impact and make her feel awful. He was using emotional blackmail on her for his own ends.

the truth · 21-01-2016, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jet

But you are missing the point Kazanne. I am sure he does care about his father and mother very much; it's the fact that he used their death and illness to get at Gemma. He could just have told her he rarely cries, end of story, but he used his own parents to make a bit impact and make her feel awful. He was using emotional blackmail on her for his own ends.

not at all he was simply stating how he feels, or isn't a man allowed to do that?

Suze · 21-01-2016, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne

Why do people make out whatever John says is some terrible crime

I don't think John did anything wrong there, other than to get a point across in the best way he felt possible. Not crying at his Dad's funeral and his Mum's illness doesn't he doesn't care or even mean he didn't cry in private, just that he managed to hold those tears back in public, something many of us do I am sure. It isn't disrespect or point scoring for him to mention it, I have heard far far worse said in BBs. The point being missed with some I think is that John was saying in that house with cameras everywhere and nowhere to hide really, he found it hard to hold tears back when being attacked verbally by that moronic hag. Excuse my language, it is rare a BB contestant gets on my nerves so much, so goodness knows how John puts up with her.

Niamh. · 21-01-2016, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by the truth

not at all he was simply stating how he feels, or isn't a man allowed to do that?

Yeah it's really about the fact he's a man

Tarryn · 21-01-2016, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jet

But you are missing the point Kazanne. I am sure he does care about his father and mother very much; it's the fact that he used their death and illness to get at Gemma. He could just have told her he rarely cries, end of story, but he used his own parents to make a bit impact and make her feel awful. He was using emotional blackmail on her for his own ends.

I tend to agree with you.
I also don't see why he would let somebody he dislikes so much see how much they have hurt him for any other reason than to gain sympathy.
He was so horrible to Darren last night when he explained why he was hurt so much that he nominated him back. He totally dismissed him & even tried to make him seem like he was making too big a deal out of it.
Is John the only one allowed to be upset