[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

I've always wondered why god is bad with money. He always needs money. Build a planet in seven days no problem. But somehow he just can't handle money.

Tithe is not for god and it is optional. It's to help the church keep afloat. God fully flows with taxes and the notion of business transactions. It's pretty easy, you use this church, help us keep it afloat that's the original concept of the tithe, however some false pastors abuse it. Shame.

And an offering is a bit different, it's like a gift. Also optional.

[Crimson Dynamo]

so why is your god invisible then?

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

so why is your god invisible then?

Don't worry you will see him when the time comes. The thing is to prepare yourself for it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

Don't worry you will see him when the time comes. The thing is to prepare yourself for it.

and again, you believe this because some one told you



do you believe everything people tell you?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

Sounds like you've met the shady Christians. Like Jesus said many will come in my name. Not everyone that say they are Christians are. Religion and Christianity/ faith is 2 separate things. I'm 200 % faulty but I hope to get there one day.

If you're 200% faulty are you a shady Christian?
I agree religion and faith are 2 separate things, I think that's when things became corrupted.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

If you're 200% faulty are you a shady Christian?
I agree religion and faith are 2 separate things, I think that's when things became corrupted.

Nah, i'm not shady i'm just not perfect. Nobody will ever be but God is not demanding perfection.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

and again, you believe this because some one told you



do you believe everything people tell you?

Nah I feel it. Just like I don't know what made me write that letter when I was little.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

Nah I feel it. Just like I don't know what made me write that letter when I was little.

believing in gods based on anecdotal evidence is not exactly a strong bedrock for a belief system

at best its just wishful thinking

have you not tried to look for any actual evidence?

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

believing in gods based on anecdotal evidence is not exactly a strong bedrock for a belief system

at best its just wishful thinking

have you not tried to look for any actual evidence?

Yo dude I've been saying my faith is not solely based on "anecdotes". My fam wasn't even praying when I wrote that letter to Jesus when I was young.

The complex formation of the planets and the universe, that we actually exist, and things revealed in the book of revelation starting to happen are just a few things. Other than that it's just something that you feel. You either have it or you don't. Also the fact that it is one of the longest debated things, pretty much since earth began proves that this is always present.

If people want to believe earth began by some explosions or whatever good for you dudes. But hey I am not a pastor. If you're looking for deeper answers talk to a pastor with 30 yrs or more experience he will have better answers than me.

[bots]

Blessed are the Ori

[Crimson Dynamo]

"and things revealed in the book of revelation starting to happen "

pray tell

[Jamie89]

Also, if god is invisible and he made us in his image, then why aren't we invisible too?

[bots]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

Also, if god is invisible and he made us in his image, then why aren't we invisible too?

god didn't need to be invisible back then, cause there was no-one around that could see him

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

god didn't need to be invisible back then, cause there was no-one around that could see him

Most likely the way we look. Legs and face and all that good stuff. He doesn't mean that we are the same as him in ability.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

Nah, i'm not shady i'm just not perfect. Nobody will ever be but God is not demanding perfection.

Why are there so many provisos to being in a religion then?
It's a given we're not perfect, yet I get the feeling that having a religion gives many a get out of jail (or hell) free card, allowing many to be total flakes in the vain hope that the cloak of religion is enough to cover any and all flaws.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

"and things revealed in the book of revelation starting to happen "

pray tell

Look around you booboo or pick up the book.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

Look around you booboo or pick up the book.

sadly, like every religionist who has come here all you have is nothing

your "faith" is no more than believing what you have been told

you cant even give me a single reason why your god is invisible, yet there are plenty scriptures that could, you dont even know your own bible

at best you resort to patronising banter


i doubt you even believe your own self

[AnnieK]

Faith, or lack of it, is such a personal thing. Those with faith will never be able to explain it to those without and vice versa. Some people are just scientifically minded and therefore cannot grasp the idea of am omnipresent being that is invisible but those who do believe just "know" there is something there. Rubbishing other people's views won't change anyone's minds on either side in my opinion.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Faith, or lack of it, is such a personal thing. Those with faith will never be able to explain it to those without and vice versa. Some people are just scientifically minded and therefore cannot grasp the idea of am omnipresent being that is invisible but those who do believe just "know" there is something there. Rubbishing other people's views won't change anyone's minds on either side in my opinion.

" Some people are just scientifically minded and therefore cannot grasp the idea of am omnipresent being "

what on earth does that mean?

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

" Some people are just scientifically minded and therefore cannot grasp the idea of am omnipresent being "

what on earth does that mean?

I would have thought it was pretty obvious to be honest. You want people to provide proof of a god...they can't but "know" what they believe and you can't compute that. Not sure what so difficult to understand

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I would have thought it was pretty obvious to be honest. You want people to provide proof of a god...they can't but "know" what they believe and you can't compute that. Not sure what so difficult to understand

people believe all sorts of crap, you know that

this is why


"god told me to do this" wont wash in court

this is why

when a neighbour smashes your car window "but an invisible man said smash it" does not persuade you

in the real world we work on real things, evidence, what crap you believe in your own home is just that

crap

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

i thought Jesus was meant to be God?

If you're going to try and pick apart religion/beliefs then at least get some understanding of them first.

[billy123]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

I've always wondered why god is bad with money. He always needs money. Build a planet in seven days no problem. But somehow he just can't handle money.

Have you got any more stolen George Carlin quotes or is it just the one?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

I've always wondered why god is bad with money. He always needs money. Build a planet in seven days no problem. But somehow he just can't handle money.

God's never asked me for money.

Maybe next time close the door and go back to sleep.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

people believe all sorts of crap, you know that

this is why


"god told me to do this" wont wash in court

this is why

when a neighbour smashes your car window "but an invisible man said smash it" does not persuade you

in the real world we work on real things, evidence, what crap you believe in your own home is just that

crap

Of course it doesn't wash, because whether someone told you to do something or not has no bearing on you committing a crime.

If God did exist and did tell you to do something, you are still responsible for doing what he asked.

If you were told to put your hand in the fire, would you?