[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Pretty much.

Trump is a man who is endorsed by terrorists and bigots, his polices are nazi-esque and he's so pathetic that he has to threaten to sue anyone who disagrees with him, let's not forget he sent a man pictures of his fingers for years after the man said in an article that he had short fingers, how can someone so petty run a country? Let's not forget how pretty much all his policies are also incredibly unconstitutional.

How this man will deal with anyone that isn't easily led or easily pleased is a mystery. Putin will make him his bitch, Assad would walk all over him. Pretty much any other world leader would dismantle him.

Trump is a stupid man endorsed by stupid people and he's got no place in running a country, never mind the most powerful one in the world. People who support Trump would have probably thought that the Nazis had the right idea before they invaded Poland.

If he wins, history will repeat itself.

If that sort of history comes out of America, then we are all in trouble.

The man's on some sort of massive ego trip, the sort of ego trip a psychopath craves and that scares the hell out of me.

He's the first presidential candidate in American history to name call and personally insult other candidates. Making comments about Hillary's sex life and Cruz suffering from a BO problem isn't just not funny, but shows how low this guy's prepared to stoop.

He continually brags. He recently said that he could stand in the middle of 5th avenue and shoot people and still not lose a single vote.

If Trump gets into the Whitehouse, I'll put money on America falling into moral decline within 2 years or less and I can't imagine the rest of the Western world admiring his authoritarian vision of America and when you don't admire Trump, Trump wants to punish you for it. America will become a dictatorship and the rest of the world will stay well clear.

The thing that's unthinkable for me is, Obama has spent his entire presidency fighting against racial discrimination and he's very possibly going to be handing that over to a man who promotes racial discrimination.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

If that sort of history comes out of America, then we are all in trouble.

The man's on some sort of massive ego trip, the sort of ego trip a psychopath craves and that scares the hell out of me.

He's the first presidential candidate in American history to name call and personally insult other candidates. Making comments about Hillary's sex life and Cruz suffering from a BO problem isn't just not funny, but shows how low this guy's prepared to stoop.

He continually brags. He recently said that he could stand in the middle of 5th avenue and shoot people and still not lose a single vote.

If Trump gets into the Whitehouse, I'll put money on America falling into moral decline within 2 years or less and I can't imagine the rest of the Western world admiring his authoritarian vision of America and when you don't admire Trump, Trump wants to punish you for it. America will become a dictatorship and the rest of the world will stay well clear.

The thing that's unthinkable for me is, Obama has spent his entire presidency fighting against racial discrimination and he's very possibly going to be handing that over to a man who promotes racial discrimination.

1) trump employs and has employed tens of thousands of immigrants.
2) he employs thousands of women in top positions
3) hes a multi billionaire, he doesn't even need to bother, he genuinely wants to see America great again.
4) he has been banging on about increasing tariffs on the Chinese for over a decade, at the time the liberals even called that racist, again he was 100% right
5) 14 million illegal immigrants pour in from south America every year. over tatty little fences? the number for the drugs and crime they bring are staggering running into the billions. yet no politician dare say anything for fear of being labelled racist or damaging their politicial careers. again they are wrong and trump is right. the first rule of the president or politicians is to protect the public.
6) he called for a temporary shut down on muslims until the government can work out what the hell is going on. yes OTT. but at least he has the backbone to address the massive white elephant everyone else is ducking. 33,000 innocent people murdered around the globe by radical islamists. recently a terrorist attack in America. in Europe look where the insane liberal agenda has taken us? over a million migrants sailing across the ocean paying illegal traffickers to ship them across, thousands drowning on the way.....we have no plan in place, no thought out ideas on how to sort out this nightmare.....and all discussion on the issue has been banned for the past decade due to political correctness....
political correctness was meant to protect people, instead we now have 10000s more terrorists, millions more illegal immigrants, huge increases in mass killings, huge increases in rapes and attacks on women and indoctrination of children.....and the liberals say what? were not allowed to talk about it and anyone who does is a racist? these liberals are 10000 times more insane than trump and 1000 times as dangerous.
these liberals who ban free speech at the same time vote to bomb the middle east to smitherseens? bombs are fine, words re not?

trump simply addressed the issue.

7) guns., he is far less pro guns that most republicans, calling for some bans on assault weapons and longer background checks

8) he wants a simplified tax system where everyone above 50,000 pays their fair share

9) he wants to keep the social security benefits

10) he is a sworn enemy of fox news and Rupert Murdoch, simply because he speaks his mind and doesn't get bullied by news corporations

11) he doesn't take any money from corporations to finance his campaign or any of his views

12) he has no vested interest here. keep looking you wont find one. he sees the country run by idiotic politicians who don't live in the real world or the business world and sees America been destroyed on debts. Obama is a nice guy, but the debt crisis hasn't gone anywhere. and isis have been allowed to grow and grow. there is a vacuum

13) His opponents , apart from Bernie, are all bought off.

14) Hes done a phenomenal amount for charity raising tens of millions

15) He will have every part of him attacked. but as far as I see it, he has a fantastic family. they all adore him. he has a wonderful business and brand across the world. he just says it as it is, whereas politicians talk their own BS language, saying one thing, do another.

[Thotmas]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Trump appeals to poor, uneducated and angry voters. http://www.oregonlive.com/opinion/in..._uneducat.html

The 'Trumpeteers' are an easy crowd to move when in the presence of their demigod. Trump knows how to manipulate their anxieties, fears, worries and hopes. Trump plays to the cheap seats-the lowest common denominator-as he brays about "making America great again," killing "terrorists," and building a wall on the Mexican border.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ans-heres-why/

When he recently said, "I love the poorly educated" I thought, "I bet you do Donald...I bet you do."

Yup. He said I could shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters.

[Johnnyuk123]

The actual truth about Donald Trump is out there if anyone cares to look beyond the bullshyte media hyped hate filled paid for social media rants.

Youtube video

[Samm]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

The actual truth about Donald Trump is out there if anyone cares to look beyond the bullshyte media hyped hate filled paid for social media rants.

Youtube video

By looking at that guys picture of himself he's just an average trump support who looks racist

[DemolitionRed]

The question is, what made you bother to look at him in the first place? Are you really that interested in the American economy and how Trump will implement his rudimentary politics; politics that are so radically different than the politics we know and understand in Britain? I've never seen you take much interest in British politics so why so much interest in America? are you thinking of emigrating?

[In the Drunk Tank]

Thing is Trump is neither as extreme or as principled on hard right positions as his rivals are. He's not as anti-abortion as Cruz or Rubio, he doesn't emphasise Christianity as much, he's not as opposed to gay marriage, he doesn't care much for Israel and he's not too worried about Russia. Even on immigration his record is not that hostile to it and in the past he's been close to the Clintons and in 2012 he supported the moderate Romney rather than any extreme Republicans.

Most polls also show that Americans back Trump more than Hilary on the economy, on terrorism and on immigration. He appeals to blue-collar Democrats as well as Republicans because he's the anti-politician; none of the slick polish of career senators, no interest in towing a party line, not beholden to vested political interests, no past political scandals. From a Republican point of view they've had two establishment candidates in the last two elections who came nowhere near to beating Obama. For anyone else, he might appeal as a breath of fresh air. This isn't our election in the UK and it's time we tried to understand the Trump phenomenon rather than just dismissing it.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Thing is Trump is neither as extreme or as principled on hard right positions as his rivals are. He's not as anti-abortion as Cruz or Rubio, he doesn't emphasise Christianity as much, he's not as opposed to gay marriage, he doesn't care much for Israel and he's not too worried about Russia. Even on immigration his record is not that hostile to it and in the past he's been close to the Clintons and in 2012 he supported the moderate Romney rather than any extreme Republicans.

Most polls also show that Americans back Trump more than Hilary on the economy, on terrorism and on immigration. He appeals to blue-collar Democrats as well as Republicans because he's the anti-politician; none of the slick polish of career senators, no interest in towing a party line, not beholden to vested political interests, no past political scandals. From a Republican point of view they've had two establishment candidates in the last two elections who came nowhere near to beating Obama. For anyone else, he might appeal as a breath of fresh air. This isn't our election in the UK and it's time we tried to understand the Trump phenomenon rather than just dismissing it.

Excellent post there

[the truth]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Thing is Trump is neither as extreme or as principled on hard right positions as his rivals are. He's not as anti-abortion as Cruz or Rubio, he doesn't emphasise Christianity as much, he's not as opposed to gay marriage, he doesn't care much for Israel and he's not too worried about Russia. Even on immigration his record is not that hostile to it and in the past he's been close to the Clintons and in 2012 he supported the moderate Romney rather than any extreme Republicans.

Most polls also show that Americans back Trump more than Hilary on the economy, on terrorism and on immigration. He appeals to blue-collar Democrats as well as Republicans because he's the anti-politician; none of the slick polish of career senators, no interest in towing a party line, not beholden to vested political interests, no past political scandals. From a Republican point of view they've had two establishment candidates in the last two elections who came nowhere near to beating Obama. For anyone else, he might appeal as a breath of fresh air. This isn't our election in the UK and it's time we tried to understand the Trump phenomenon rather than just dismissing it.

Brilliant analysis and totally spot on. He is seen as the anti dote to all the BS that spews from politicians. The left will never understand it, just as they will never understand business or the economy. They will block their ears and scream racist, in their usual inverted bigoted way. To them stopping illegal immigration, curbing the number of terrorists, drug runners and gun smugglers is racist? and they think trump is inane? look at the EU if you want the definition of insane.

[Vicky.]

Is there actually a possibility this guy might win? Just..I'm not up to date on American politics at all but I always thought he was viewed as a kinda joke. Like how the BNP and such are seen over here. But from the recent stories and such, he actually seems popular?

[In the Drunk Tank]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Is there actually a possibility this guy might win? Just..I'm not up to date on American politics at all but I always thought he was viewed as a kinda joke. Like how the BNP and such are seen over here. But from the recent stories and such, he actually seems popular?

He's now very likely to be the Republican nomination and would probably run Hilary close. Couple of good articles from the last couple of days:

His strengths – down-home appeal, life experience and real-world commercial success (this is the US) – all underline that which Clinton lacks. They also serve as a reminder of why her campaign for the Democratic candidacy eight years ago ultimately failed. Barack Obama had what it took to inspire voters; she, for all her formidable achievements, did not.

...

Trump has demonstrated that he can switch register, practically overnight, from outrageous to gracious, even reasonable. He has his own success story to tell that many Americans will find attractive. He can get things done, real things. And he has already shown – his spat with Pope Francis being a prime example – that moral criticism may not stick. And if he has personal baggage – well, so does Clinton, too.

The nominations will not be fixed until the party conventions in July. But even at this early stage it is worth noting that the US of the European mind tends to be a more generous, less rugged, and more outward-looking place than much of it is. When Trump speaks of building a wall with Mexico, he promises a reality that partially exists; there is an 18ft-high metal fence for a third of the length of the border. And when he condemns the Iraq War, proposes talks with Vladimir Putin or ridicules Obama’s ability to handle Congress, he undermines Clinton’s positions in ways that voters across the spectrum will understand.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...-a6907906.html

Yes, Trump’s appeal is largely that of the outsider. He’s the voice of countless ordinary Americans who are sick to the back teeth with political correctness, who detest Washington and its dysfunctional ways, who feel the country is going down the drain. “All talk, no action, never gets done,” are Trump’s watchwords.

...

But there’s more to Trump than that. Skilfully, he plays lip-service to canons of Republican orthodoxy. Guns are good, illegal immigrants and abortion are very bad and Obamacare must go. Like every good Republican, he’s put forward a completely unaffordable programme of tax cuts. Look a little more closely, however, and Trump may be the most centrist frontrunner the party has had in decades.

Cruz and Rubio assail him as a Democrat in disguise, pointing to his former praise for a single payer health system, the kind words he once had for that arch-demon Hillary Clinton and his support for many of the activities of the Planned Parenthood organisation, vilified by the party because it helps women get abortions.

Then there’s Trump’s show of evenhandedness in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict – reiterated in Thursday’s debate – and his denunciation of the 2003 invasion of Iraq: the world he says, would be a safer place if the likes of Saddam Hussein and Muammar Gaddafi were still in power. Cruz and Rubio are spot-on. Trump is in many respects a traitor to his party (assuming of course he truly belonged to it in the first place). Alas for his rivals, apostasy pays off.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...-a6900296.html

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Is there actually a possibility this guy might win? Just..I'm not up to date on American politics at all but I always thought he was viewed as a kinda joke. Like how the BNP and such are seen over here. But from the recent stories and such, he actually seems popular?

look what happened to Corbyn over here

[Christmas Dynasnow]

RNC chief Reince Priebus has released a statement on tonight's debate, again comparing the Republican candidates with the Democratic field.

"While Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders promise to put the failed Obama agenda on steroids, our Republican candidates are the only ones offering the course correction voters overwhelmingly want and our country desperately needs," Priebus said,

"The record Republican turnout we have seen across the country is a reflection of the enthusiasm our Party is generating and stands in stark contrast to the Democrats who are staying home in droves."


http://www.foxnews.com/live-coverage...ews-gop-debate

[Christmas Dynasnow]

well said Truth

[ChristmasNeeve]

Last warning for people to keep it about the thread topic and not eachother

[Mokka]

Trump brings out the worst in us all

[ChristmasNeeve]

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Im watching last nights debate and he is doing very well

The fact he is not a politician gives him so many outs

[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Im watching last nights debate and he is doing very well

The fact he is not a politician gives him so many outs

I agree 100%
He is the american peoples choice LT so good for him i say. He is doing so well and without a single back hander from the top 6 big companies that run americas media. 90% of what americans see on tv over there is decided by those 6 companies. People are not stupid, they have had enough of being hand fed bullshyte so you can't blame them for wanting Donald a man who can and will get the job done and on time and on budget. No wonder they are running scared. He can't be bought no matter how hard murdock and his side kicks try.

[DemolitionRed]

@TheTruth

Trump is big on the second amendment and fully supports anyone who wants to have a weapons permit. According to Trump, people who shoot people have a mental illness
http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Dona...un_Control.htm

He claims his simple tax system is revenue neutral but its not. This is an upper middle class tax cut and Trump has failed to provide evidence that he can keep his promise to cut taxes at the level he has proposed and raise enough new revenue elsewhere to make his plan revenue neutral.
http://taxfoundation.org/blog/donald...-circumstances

As for social security benefits, Trump appears to be reliant on a fluidly robust economy. He talks about benefits like they are a cash flow problem due to the unemployed but the real cash flow problem or should I say, the biggest, comes from pension funds. His promises are reliant on an ever growing economy, but if there’s a recession then they would simply run out of money.
http://www.fool.com/retirement/gener...ial-secur.aspx

Of course he has a vested interest in America. Most of his businesses are in the USA and so to suggest otherwise is just publicity-seeking rhetoric.

Can you give me a link of 33,000 innocent people murdered around the globe by radical islamists please because it would be wrong to include innocents killed within war zones in the middle east in those numbers.

What is going to happen to all those Muslim business men who bring billions of dollars in revenue into the USA? Lets remember that Muslims don’t just come from the middle east but are world wide and play an important role in the American economy. This temporary ban on Muslims entering the US will have a huge impact on Americas global business community and when he takes down the ban, why would these wealthy businessmen want to continue using America as a trade partner?

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

@TheTruth

Trump is big on the second amendment and fully supports anyone who wants to have a weapons permit. According to Trump, people who shoot people have a mental illness
http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Dona...un_Control.htm

He claims his simple tax system is revenue neutral but its not. This is an upper middle class tax cut and Trump has failed to provide evidence that he can keep his promise to cut taxes at the level he has proposed and raise enough new revenue elsewhere to make his plan revenue neutral.
http://taxfoundation.org/blog/donald...-circumstances

As for social security benefits, Trump appears to be reliant on a fluidly robust economy. He talks about benefits like they are a cash flow problem due to the unemployed but the real cash flow problem or should I say, the biggest, comes from pension funds. His promises are reliant on an ever growing economy, but if there’s a recession then they would simply run out of money.
http://www.fool.com/retirement/gener...ial-secur.aspx

Of course he has a vested interest in America. Most of his businesses are in the USA and so to suggest otherwise is just publicity-seeking rhetoric.

Can you give me a link of 33,000 innocent people murdered around the globe by radical islamists please because it would be wrong to include innocents killed within war zones in the middle east in those numbers.

What is going to happen to all those Muslim business men who bring billions of dollars in revenue into the USA? Lets remember that Muslims don’t just come from the middle east but are world wide and play an important role in the American economy. This temporary ban on Muslims entering the US will have a huge impact on Americas global business community and when he takes down the ban, why would these wealthy businessmen want to continue using America as a trade partner?

The muslim businessmen will, if they are not terrorists, understand fully that America needs to protect bits self. I doubt any will give two hoots, all they care about is $$$$

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

The muslim businessmen will, if they are not terrorists, understand fully that America needs to protect bits self. I doubt any will give two hoots, all they care about is $$$$

WoW! well when thousands lose their jobs I think they will care.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

WoW! well when thousands lose their jobs I think they will care.

utter pointless speculation

[GiRTh]

There have been many incidents at Trump Rallies. This latest one is one of the more tame incidents. Also need to add there have been incidents at Rubio rallies too so its not just Trump who attracts the assholes.

It looks like Trumps getting the nomination and it looks like the GOP establishment are upping the anti with their attacks. Mitt Romney launches into Trump only last might in a speech. Its fascinating the establishment efforts to control Trump result in him going even further against them. One thing I do know is there is no one better than the GOP at smear campaigns so this could get very very ugly.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

This maelstrom has been coming for the GOp for years