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arista · 12-06-2016, 04:19 PM

The Killer US citizen Omar Mateen, 29,

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-hostages.html

Livia · 12-06-2016, 04:25 PM

Makes me hope there is a hell.

the truth · 12-06-2016, 04:30 PM

theres certainly a hell on earth

Will. · 12-06-2016, 05:04 PM

Tom4784 · 12-06-2016, 05:13 PM

I think it's a bit silly to make out that democrats can't be homophobic, they most certainly can just like there are republicans who are the complete opposite of what you'd think a republican to be.

ThriceShy · 12-06-2016, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

I think it's a bit silly to make out that democrats can't be homophobic, they most certainly can just like there are republicans who are the complete opposite of what you'd think a republican to be.

I don't think this is about homophobia. It's islamic terrorism. They hate us all.

Firewire · 12-06-2016, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy

I don't think this is about homophobia. It's islamic terrorism. They hate us all.

It was definitely about homophobia. The killer was Muslim but it hasn't been confirmed that he's linked to ISIS or any other terror organisation. He purposely went into a gay club, during gay pride weekend and killed over 50 gay people. That's not a coincidence.

T* · 12-06-2016, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Firewire

It was definitely about homophobia. The killer was Muslim but it hasn't been confirmed that he's linked to ISIS or any other terror organisation. He purposely went into a gay club, during gay pride weekend and killed over 50 gay people. That's not a coincidence.

This.

Firewire · 12-06-2016, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

I think it's a bit silly to make out that democrats can't be homophobic, they most certainly can just like there are republicans who are the complete opposite of what you'd think a republican to be.

No that's true but that's not what Thrice was implying

Ninastar · 12-06-2016, 05:20 PM

Its a bit silly to be complaining about gun laws when this was a terrorist attack. Yes, America is ****ing ridiculous with its gun laws, but no one complained about gun regulations when this happened in France.

Attacks like this will always happen. No matter what gun laws there are. and like I said earlier, they always happen in anti-gun areas, because people know that if they do it in a place where most civilians do have guns, they will be killed within minutes

Firewire · 12-06-2016, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninastar

Its a bit silly to be complaining about gun laws when this was a terrorist attack. Yes, America is ****ing ridiculous with its gun laws, but no one complained about gun regulations when this happened in France.

Attacks like this will always happen. No matter what gun laws there are. and like I said earlier, they always happen in anti-gun areas, because people know that if they do it in a place where most civilians do have guns, they will be killed within minutes

There's been two shootings in Orlando just this weekend. Yes there was an attack in France, but that was a one-off.

Gun laws have to change. It doesn't happen in Britain because people can't get their hands on guns.

Ninastar · 12-06-2016, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Firewire

There's been two shootings in Orlando just this weekend. Yes there was an attack in France, but that was a one-off.

Gun laws have to change. It doesn't happen in Britain because people can't get their hands on guns.

It will happen in Britain soon enough. Gun crime does happen in the UK, but its a lot less common.

I agree that more needs to be done to stop this, but I think its a little heartless to be talking about that when this is the worst attack in american history.

Just my personal opinion but this is a little close to the heart. I've not been upset by something like this so much in a while.

Firewire · 12-06-2016, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninastar

It will happen in Britain soon enough. Gun crime does happen in the UK, but its a lot less common.

I agree that more needs to be done to stop this, but I think its a little heartless to be talking about that when this is the worst attack in american history.

Just my personal opinion but this is a little close to the heart. I've not been upset by something like this so much in a while.

I agree with you Caitlin that gun control will not end senseless attacks like this. But I think they need to try and do something.

I also agree that it's very upsetting. It could've been any of us celebrating pride.

Cherie · 12-06-2016, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Firewire

There's been two shootings in Orlando just this weekend. Yes there was an attack in France, but that was a one-off.

Gun laws have to change. It doesn't happen in Britain because people can't get their hands on guns.

It wasn't a one off what about Charlie Hebdo and the Jewish supermarket hostages, attacks have been thwarted as well, the American guy who took down a shooter on a train

Firewire · 12-06-2016, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

It wasn't a one off what about Charlie Hebdo and the Jewish supermarket hostages, attacks have been thwarted as well

Charlie Hebdo was an ISIS attack, though.

The American gun attacks are often Americans (of any colour) carrying out hateful attacks.

Cherie · 12-06-2016, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Firewire

Charlie Hebdo was an ISIS attack, though.

The American gun attacks are often Americans (of any colour) carrying out hateful attacks.

Yes I see what you are saying now

Northern Monkey · 12-06-2016, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Firewire

There's been two shootings in Orlando just this weekend. Yes there was an attack in France, but that was a one-off.

Gun laws have to change. It doesn't happen in Britain because people can't get their hands on guns.

It's not that hard to get hold of a gun in the UK.You just can't walk into a supermarket and buy one.The problem with guns in the UK is they're not registered to anyone so you can't identify who it belongs to.
Over here the criminals have guns but your everyday person does'nt so if you're in an armed robbery you just have to stand defenceless and hope for the best.

Shaun · 12-06-2016, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninastar

Its a bit silly to be complaining about gun laws when this was a terrorist attack. Yes, America is ****ing ridiculous with its gun laws, but no one complained about gun regulations when this happened in France.

To be fair, it's a little more difficult to smuggle firearms into America than it is into France... especially if by extremists. I don't know how thorough the screening process is in buying firearms but the ability for them to be stolen and sold on the black market is a problem in itself.