[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

The week just gets better and better for our Jason...Charli evicted...Lateysha and Ryan gone...and now Hughie isn't going to talk to him anymore.

[delta]

After thinking Jason was a bit more 'savvy' than your average semi labotomised housemate, it's quite clear he got lucky wih being able to press the button first and come up with a name that made that moment in BB history, rather compelling.


Roll of a few days and he's back to doing what the rest do, not playing the BB game, but reverting back to the norm and how he's been conditioned to think and act. Just because BB are always asking, or demanding,full and frank reasons for your every thought doesn't mean you have to give them that, you can easily give them an alternative that would satisfy them and still keep your enemies appeased.

Problem is they all want to be liked and to be seen to be doing the right thing. It's a difficult one as the producers of this program do not know what they are doing, it's a clusterfcukk of ideas, for all the while HM's are grassed up in the diary room to other housemates, for all the while it swings from one format to another, for all the while it interferes with the process, then we are never going to get the program we deserve, and the players don't know whether it's a popularity contest or Machiavellian game,were only the strong survive.

[kirklancaster]

Didn't Ryan The Rat make mysogynist remarks on more than one occasion? Wasn't one of the less grave ones that 'Women can't be funny' or similar?

In any event, Jason had a plethora of valid reasons for voting to evict the immature, loud, fake, annoying, over-acting little rat, but the aggressive manner in which Ryan abused Jason and continually screamed in his face over pressing the button, grabbing the £20K, and evicting Lateysha incident, is enough - without relying on the rest.

Jason was NOT the only HM to vote to evict the RAT and it was Jayne (to her credit) who delivered the coup de grace, but it seems like it is Jason alone who once again is being irrationally blamed by some on here.

I just don't understand why anyone accepts that there is anything to blame Jason for just because he played the GAME (or any other HM for that matter when they play the game).

They ALL want to win. They ALL want that prize money. They ALL want the Fame and Celebrity which comes with winning, and they ALL are employing every tactic and 'trick in the book' in order to try to win including 'Game Playing', and I have said this before, but it is none-the-less true for being repeated;

Do NOT hate on Jason simply because 'The Quiet Man' is fast turning out to be the BEST tactician out of the lot of them.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by delta

After thinking Jason was a bit more 'savvy' than your average semi labotomised housemate, it's quite clear he got lucky wih being able to press the button first and come up with a name that made that moment in BB history, rather compelling.


Roll of a few days and he's back to doing what the rest do, not playing the BB game, but reverting back to the norm and how he's been conditioned to think and act. Just because BB are always asking, or demanding,full and frank reasons for your every thought doesn't mean you have to give them that, you can easily give them an alternative that would satisfy them and still keep your enemies appeased.

Problem is they all want to be liked and to be seen to be doing the right thing. It's a difficult one as the producers of this program do not know what they are doing, it's a clusterfcukk of ideas, for all the while HM's are grassed up in the diary room to other housemates, for all the while it swings from one format to another, for all the while it interferes with the process, then we are never going to get the program we deserve, and the players don't know whether it's a popularity contest or Machiavellian game,were only the strong survive.

Great post Delta

[letmein]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Didn't Ryan The Rat make mysogynist remarks on more than one occasion? Wasn't one of the less grave ones that 'Women can't be funny' or similar?

In any event, Jason had a plethora of valid reasons for voting to evict the immature, loud, fake, annoying, over-acting little rat, but the aggressive manner in which Ryan abused Jason and continually screamed in his face over pressing the button, grabbing the £20K, and evicting Lateysha incident, is enough - without relying on the rest.

Jason was NOT the only HM to vote to evict the RAT and it was Jayne (to her credit) who delivered the coup de grace, but it seems like it is Jason alone who once again is being irrationally blamed by some on here.

I just don't understand why anyone accepts that there is anything to blame Jason for just because he played the GAME (or any other HM for that matter when they play the game).

They ALL want to win. They ALL want that prize money. They ALL want the Fame and Celebrity which comes with winning, and they ALL are employing every tactic and 'trick in the book' in order to try to win including 'Game Playing', and I have said this before, but it is none-the-less true for being repeated;

Do NOT hate on Jason simply because 'The Quiet Man' is fast turning out to be the BEST tactician out of the lot of them.

Jason can't even spell tactician.

[Ammi]

...is he saying that things Ryan has said haven't showed any respect to any partners he has had/romantically/sexually...why does that show sexism to females though...and him saying 'because of my size/build etc if I said things like that...' sounds more talking about 'intimidation' rather than sexist stuff so is he saying that Ryan's behaviour in the house has been intimidating.../still confused....

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Didn't Ryan The Rat make mysogynist remarks on more than one occasion? Wasn't one of the less grave ones that 'Women can't be funny' or similar?

In any event, Jason had a plethora of valid reasons for voting to evict the immature, loud, fake, annoying, over-acting little rat, but the aggressive manner in which Ryan abused Jason and continually screamed in his face over pressing the button, grabbing the £20K, and evicting Lateysha incident, is enough - without relying on the rest.

Jason was NOT the only HM to vote to evict the RAT and it was Jayne (to her credit) who delivered the coup de grace, but it seems like it is Jason alone who once again is being irrationally blamed by some on here.

I just don't understand why anyone accepts that there is anything to blame Jason for just because he played the GAME (or any other HM for that matter when they play the game).

They ALL want to win. They ALL want that prize money. They ALL want the Fame and Celebrity which comes with winning, and they ALL are employing every tactic and 'trick in the book' in order to try to win including 'Game Playing', and I have said this before, but it is none-the-less true for being repeated;

Do NOT hate on Jason simply because 'The Quiet Man' is fast turning out to be the BEST tactician out of the lot of them.

....hmmmm, I don't think that's fair though Kirk...that it's 'irrational blaming' because surely it's just questioning his reason, which doesn't make sense to us as viewers and then quite silly not to expand on that reason when that was the very time..(having given a very specific reason..)...to expand on it...there couldn't be more 'the time' to expand so it felt that his 'reason' was thrown in without substance or foundation for it...I think that the actual voting of Ryan was an obvious and understandable one for him though....but I do think it's equally obvious and understandable that his reasons should be questioned ...

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by letmein

Jason can't even spell tactician.

Let me see;

Jason:

Self-Made very Wealthy entrepeneur.
Owns a boutique
Owns a Beauty Salon.
Is a succesful Property Developer.
Drives an Aston Martin.
Has a career in films as a body double
Has a career in films as a stunt man
Has co-starred in films.

Rat Boy

Failed wannabe singer
Kicked off the X-Factor for drunken antics in the pool and other anti-social behaviour
Described by Simon Cowell as "a horror of a human being" and "a nightmare".
Is such an airhead that he undergoes tanning injections three times a week and uses sunbeds SIX times a week.
Says of himself: "I am gobby, I just love attention, and drama tends to follow me, I'm painful."

I will have a wager with you that Jason has a far higher IQ than Rat Boy, is far more knowledgeable, and is far more intelligent than him.

He is most certainly a far NICER human being and far more relevant.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Ammi

....hmmmm, I don't think that's fair though Kirk...that it's 'irrational blaming' because surely it's just questioning his reason, which doesn't make sense to us as viewers and then quite silly not to expand on that reason when that was the very time..(having given a very specific reason..)...to expand on it...there couldn't be more 'the time' to expand so it felt that his 'reason' was thrown in without substance or foundation for it...I think that the actual voting of Ryan was an obvious and understandable one for him though....but I do think it's equally obvious and understandable that his reasons should be questioned ...

BB does not screen everything though Ammi, but they do not have to, because Jason has all the reasons he needs to vote to evict the obnoxious little turd that is Ryan, from just what HAS been screened.

In my opinion, of course.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

BB does not screen everything though Ammi, but they do not have to, because Jason has all the reasons he needs to vote to evict the obnoxious little turd that is Ryan, from just what HAS been screened.

In my opinion, of course.

..yeah, that's what I meant though Captain Kirk sir...it made total sense for Jason to vote him...it made total sense for anyone and everyone to have voted him.....but it's not irrational to question/be confused etc for something that we haven't been shown that's been given as the reason...it's totally rational and understandable...and why he's been questioned more than anyone else, I think...

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..yeah, that's what I meant though Captain Kirk sir...it made total sense for Jason to vote him...it made total sense for anyone and everyone to have voted him.....but it's not irrational to question/be confused etc for something that we haven't been shown that's been given as the reason...it's totally rational and understandable...and why he's been questioned more than anyone else, I think...

I agree Ammi - BB should not show footage of people discussing events/dialogues which we the viewers have not been privy to.

They should now show us what the hell WAS said; 'Habeas Corpus' and all that.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Let me see;

Jason:

Self-Made very Wealthy entrepeneur.
Owns a boutique
Owns a Beauty Salon.
Is a succesful Property Developer.
Drives an Aston Martin.
Has a career in films as a body double
Has a career in films as a stunt man
Has co-starred in films.

Rat Boy

Failed wannabe singer
Kicked off the X-Factor for drunken antics in the pool and other anti-social behaviour
Described by Simon Cowell as "a horror of a human being" and "a nightmare".
Is such an airhead that he undergoes tanning injections three times a week and uses sunbeds SIX times a week.
Says of himself: "I am gobby, I just love attention, and drama tends to follow me, I'm painful."

I will have a wager with you that Jason has a far higher IQ than Rat Boy, is far more knowledgeable, and is far more intelligent than him.

He is most certainly a far NICER human being and far more relevant.

You forgot Jason has a 10 inch dick and all Ryan has is a bad personality and a pathetic gag reflex. After that, this is one of the best analysis's this week.

[Visage]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I agree Ammi - BB should not show footage of people discussing events/dialogues which we the viewers have not been privy to.

Yes, definitely.

I accept they can't show everything, but when a housemates comments on a conversation or an incident that hasn't been shown they need to show it through a flashback.

I appreciate last night was live and therefore wouldn't have been possible to dig it out, but in tonight's highlights it should be shown.

They are more than happy to show the viewers what happened in the previous episode, I just wish they were more active in showing scenes that's currently been discussed by the housemates.

Unless of course there are none....

[chuff me dizzy]

I hope gob****e went on and asked everyone else who kicked out Ryan for their reasons

[Cherie]

Looking at the video again it looks like Ryan said he would **** Alex (maybe) and others up the arse and Jason took exception to it, then he brought in the example of how people would feel intimidated if he said it to them, this is Ryan did anyone actually take any notice of him apart from Jason

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I hope gob****e went on and asked everyone else who kicked out Ryan for their reasons

The other reasons were pretty clear though, I'm closer to Sam/Laura and Choosing the rich option and don't call my Hughie gob****e

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I hope gob****e went on and asked everyone else who kicked out Ryan for their reasons

It would be the usual 'im not as close to you as some others'. Its an easy answer is that, if they were in the DR i bet it would be different.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Didn't Ryan The Rat make mysogynist remarks on more than one occasion? Wasn't one of the less grave ones that 'Women can't be funny' or similar?

In any event, Jason had a plethora of valid reasons for voting to evict the immature, loud, fake, annoying, over-acting little rat, but the aggressive manner in which Ryan abused Jason and continually screamed in his face over pressing the button, grabbing the £20K, and evicting Lateysha incident, is enough - without relying on the rest.

Jason was NOT the only HM to vote to evict the RAT and it was Jayne (to her credit) who delivered the coup de grace, but it seems like it is Jason alone who once again is being irrationally blamed by some on here.

I just don't understand why anyone accepts that there is anything to blame Jason for just because he played the GAME (or any other HM for that matter when they play the game).

They ALL want to win. They ALL want that prize money. They ALL want the Fame and Celebrity which comes with winning, and they ALL are employing every tactic and 'trick in the book' in order to try to win including 'Game Playing', and I have said this before, but it is none-the-less true for being repeated;

Do NOT hate on Jason simply because 'The Quiet Man' is fast turning out to be the BEST tactician out of the lot of them.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Ellen

It would be the usual 'im not as close to you as some others'. Its an easy answer is that, if they were in the DR i bet it would be different.

At least with Jason,he got an honest answer

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Visage

Yes, definitely.

I accept they can't show everything, but when a housemates comments on a conversation or an incident that hasn't been shown they need to show it through a flashback.

I appreciate last night was live and therefore wouldn't have been possible to dig it out, but in tonight's highlights it should be shown.

They are more than happy to show the viewers what happened in the previous episode, I just wish they were more active in showing scenes that's currently been discussed by the housemates.

Unless of course there are none....

I think it was quite clear in his interview with Emma when he said women can't be funny and was pulled up on it, the kind of remarks he makes casually in conversation. Jason has probably heard a lot of it and picked up on it.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I think it was quite clear in his interview with Emma when he said women can't be funny and was pulled up on it, the kind of remarks he makes casually in conversation. Jason has probably heard a lot of it and picked up on it.

It looks loke one throw away remark by Ryan that happened a few days ago, that's what I am getting from the video clip at any rate

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by erinp5

BB edit what we see but Ryan proved Jason had a point in his interview with Emma .

Either Ryan had a personality transplant before he went in the house or BB have edited Ryan so that we didn't see how bigoted he is. We all saw the tweets that were alleged to be from Ryan about BB transgender winner Luke but more evidently we've seen videos of him being prejudice and vile about people who are poor or over weight.
Jason obv saw past the distractions and insincerity of Ryan.

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by hot2go

Either Ryan had a personality transplant before he went in the house or BB have edited Ryan so that we didn't see how bigoted he is. We all saw the tweets that were alleged to be from Ryan about BB transgender winner Luke but more evidently we've seen videos of him being prejudice and vile about people who are poor or over weight.
Jason obv saw past the distractions and insincerity of Ryan.

This ^^^
There is obviously more been said than we have been shown. I do think in a lot of cases Ryan doesnt think about what he is saying.

[hot2go]

Since when have so many people been pro Ryan. Why is he so popular and great all of a sudden. Been mostly slagged off or ignored on social media for last three weeks. I'm not buying it. Hughie lovers and Jason haters need to say something more sub substantial to convince me that their remarks about Jason aren't just sour grapes.

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Didn't Ryan The Rat make mysogynist remarks on more than one occasion? Wasn't one of the less grave ones that 'Women can't be funny' or similar?

In any event, Jason had a plethora of valid reasons for voting to evict the immature, loud, fake, annoying, over-acting little rat, but the aggressive manner in which Ryan abused Jason and continually screamed in his face over pressing the button, grabbing the £20K, and evicting Lateysha incident, is enough - without relying on the rest.

Jason was NOT the only HM to vote to evict the RAT and it was Jayne (to her credit) who delivered the coup de grace, but it seems like it is Jason alone who once again is being irrationally blamed by some on here.

I just don't understand why anyone accepts that there is anything to blame Jason for just because he played the GAME (or any other HM for that matter when they play the game).

They ALL want to win. They ALL want that prize money. They ALL want the Fame and Celebrity which comes with winning, and they ALL are employing every tactic and 'trick in the book' in order to try to win including 'Game Playing', and I have said this before, but it is none-the-less true for being repeated;

Do NOT hate on Jason simply because 'The Quiet Man' is fast turning out to be the BEST tactician out of the lot of them.

Brilliant post Kirk ... Pure logic and reason.