[Drew.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Charlie is the quintessential bunny boiler, he told her many, many times that he just wanted to be friends and she just wasn't happy enough with that, she wanted to push for more, even after he made it clear nothing was going to happen, she made him miserable for 5 weeks, taking offense to every single thing he said, by crying and making a tit of herself whenever he didn't fawn all over her, she's the only one who managed to ruin her experience and she ruined his in the process, now even after she's left she's been hall bent on trying to drag his name through the dirt even more than she already has, that tirade of abuse she gave him in that court task was a prime example of what she was like in that house but multiplied because she knew she could leave afterwards and not finally get the tongue lashing she deserved back, she's an psycho, always was and the fact that she thinks telling him he won't see her for dust afterwards was going to hurt him is laughable, poor love, must be hard to live in a world full of delusion.

[LukeB]

Jason also made Charlie miserable but yeah blame the woman.

[Greg!]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Jason also made Charlie miserable but yeah blame the woman.

hmm tea

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Greg!

hmm tea

I love Charlie but both gave it to each other not just one but a female always gets the blame. It wasn't all Charlie it was equal.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by LukeB

I love Charlie but both gave it to each other not just one but a female always gets the blame. It wasn't all Charlie it was equal.

It wasn't equal at all,he never gave her a hard time ,it was HER who was persuing him,he did nothing wrong

[Greg!]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

It wasn't equal at all,he never gave her a hard time ,it was HER who was persuing him,he did nothing wrong

She wasn't pursuing anyone, he led her on

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

It wasn't equal at all,he never gave her a hard time ,it was HER who was persuing him,he did nothing wrong

It was HIM as well. Jason wasn't a victim in this either was Charlie. Both gave it to each other. No one was a villain/victim in this situation, I felt sorry for them both to be put in this situation but I'm not going to blame Jason without blaming Charlie too.

[Drew.]

Originally Posted by LukeB

I love Charlie but both gave it to each other not just one but a female always gets the blame. It wasn't all Charlie it was equal.

Low blow

[Babayaro.]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Jason also made Charlie miserable but yeah blame the woman.

lol you can't possibly throw out the 'sexism' card. People aren't blaming Charlie just because she's a woman, if you read through the thread they have gave very strong reasons as to why they believe she is at fault.

[TomC]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Jason also made Charlie miserable but yeah blame the woman.

Please tell me you're not suggesting I'm treating Charlie differently because she's a woman?

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Jason also made Charlie miserable but yeah blame the woman.

That's extremely narrow-minded, Luke. I think Charlie came off worse and it has nothing to do with me just wanting to "blame the woman".

And from what I watched, Charlie made herself miserable.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by TomC

Please tell me you're not suggesting I'm treating Charlie differently because she's a woman?

nope

Originally Posted by Lostie!

That's extremely narrow-minded, Luke. I think Charlie came off worse and it has nothing to do with me just wanting to "blame the woman".

I just think both were as bad as each other both made accusations about each other, both made each other miserable. It was equal and it takes two not just one.

[omgwtf]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Jason also made Charlie miserable but yeah blame the woman.

As a woman myself I wouldn't place undue blame on another woman. However, just because I am a woman doesn't mean I have to automatically side with the woman instead of the man. From what I saw on TV, Jason didn't do anything wrong to Charlie. I didn't see him make her miserable at all.

He doesn't have to be with her if he doesn't want to, nor does he have to be with her just to make her happy/give her what she wants.

[Liam-]

The whole premise of 'we'll talk about it outside' I think was his way of trying not to let her down on tv and make her look more of a tit than she'd already made herself look imo, a real gentlemanly thing to do.

[Lister of Smeg]

Big Jase needs to take restraining order out on the dog kicker poor little Cleo little heart won't be able to take anymore abuse from this angry bunny boiler especially with her getting up their in years.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by TomC

I don't wanna sound hostile, but I am slightly disappointed at the view of this by the TIBB regulars/off-season people.

Like, what has Jason actually done wrong? He tried to deal with Charlie as well as he could, and people make baseless claims that he's 'fake'?

Whereas Charlie, who put Jason in such an awkward position, was emotionally abusive, came in and game him a barrage of abuse including the c-word is praised...

I just don't quite understand how some people can let their favourites get away with certain behaviour.

EXACTLY RIGHT.

[Beso]

Jason only flipped and turned violent because she dumped him and he still wanted her.

[Macie Lightfoot]

it also seems pretty neglectful to mention the fact that even if a lot of the stuff Charlie says about Jason is true, she is ****ing insane (and I say that lovingly) and Jason is pretty much correct about her too?

and I'm sure people are gonna yell and scream and disagree, but she SO moved that dog with her foot probably a little too forcefully for his liking

[Daniel.]

He's a vile thug who treats legend Charlie like ****

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Daniel.

He's a vile thug who treats legend Charlie like ****

stay pressed sis

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

stay pressed sis

'Groovy, Baby'.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Daniel.

He's a vile thug who treats legend Charlie like ****

No ,she said SHE treated HIM badly how hard is that to understand. She has a mouth like a sewer so I imagine **** is what she is used to

[Northern Monkey]

Now suppose Jason had acted like/treated Charlie the way she did him.What would everyone be saying?
They would be saying he's an emotional abuser and how he should be arrested for it.Charlie is getting off very lightly in comparison to if that situation was reversed.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Now suppose Jason had acted like/treated Charlie the way she did him.What would everyone be saying?
They would be saying he's an emotional abuser and how he should be arrested for it.Charlie is getting off very lightly in comparison to if that situation was reversed.

Of course she is, she's a woman, most women get the angel treatment on here no matter what they do, especially if it's against a man.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Of course she is, she's a woman, most women get the angel treatment on here no matter what they do, especially if it's against a man.

some people calling females sluts,bad mother,fat etc on here is hardly angel treatment.