[Pete.]

I guess Marnie answered my question for me

[Denver]

im not a fan but she was treated horribly

[delta]

Originally Posted by Adam.

im not a fan but she was treated horribly

Rubbish


It was self created. she makes a rod for her own back. She lacks the etiquette and intricacies for human interaction and the nuances of small talk.


she comes across as a very angry woman.

[fitz2k2]

Originally Posted by Pete.

Me thinks she's being bullied and that scum Bear is the ringleader

you don't even know the meaning of the word bully

[lewis111]

Setting herself up?
So it's her fault for talking in her usual tone of voice to people who aren't nice?
She's spoekn to everyone that way and only they seem to have an issue with it

You can deny he's being bullied I feel she's only being picked on. But I don't see how it is her fault that she's being treated that way

[Heaven = Winner]

I think she's starting to be, for sure. At least from Bear and (likely) Marnie.

[hot2go]

She's attached racism to James ....she's called Marnie a drunk...she's called bear a violent agressive man who would physically attack people and she's commeneted that Heavy D is too fat to exercise....she's the one ganging up on people...they have reacted badly and they are in the wrong but she has created that situation ...doesn't excuse their reaction but it def explains it.

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by hot2go

She's attached racism to James ....she's called Marnie a drunk...she's called bear a violent agressive man who would physically attack people and she's commeneted that Heavy D is too fat to exercise....she's the one ganging up on people...they have reacted badly and they are in the wrong but she has created that situation ...doesn't excuse their reaction but it def explains it.

And she spends half the time sneering at anyone with a different opinion to her.

Insulting, patronising, condescending, belittling and sneering.

And when people who all agree with each other that she is these things point it out to her, she cries and they're the bullies in the minds of viewers who I believe just want to be seen to be "standing up for a victim".

It's unbelievable.

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

And she spends half the time sneering at anyone with a different opinion to her.

Insulting, patronising, condescending, belittling and sneering.

And when people who all agree with each other that she is these things point it out to her, she cries and they're the bullies in the minds of viewers who I believe just want to be seen to be "standing up for a victim".

It's unbelievable.

It is unbelievable....she thinks she a cut above....she's a total snob and is prob used to getting her own way....way too confident

[Robodog]

Originally Posted by hot2go

She's attached racism to James ....she's called Marnie a drunk...she's called bear a violent agressive man who would physically attack people and she's commeneted that Heavy D is too fat to exercise....she's the one ganging up on people...they have reacted badly and they are in the wrong but she has created that situation ...doesn't excuse their reaction but it def explains it.

Best post on this thread.

It explains all the examples of how Saira has been on the offensive since the start (there was also her barbed comment towards Chloe)

She has been constantly trying to provoke other HMs since she entered the house. Then as soon as they respond to her she plays the victim card and says 'How dare you say i was offensive! I was only being honest and trying to get to know you all! i'm so innocent and now you are all ganging up on me!' It's an old, clever, passive-aggressive trick.

As if commenting on Heavy D's size re: exercise is in any way friendly!

Then she acts all upset when people confront her, so then people are forced to try to clear the air with her. So then she rudely dismisses their apology and she even carries on offending them personally (as she did with Marnie over her drinking). This proves she not only creates the issues, she also wants to milk the upset she has created for as much as she can get out of it.

Terrible manipulative behaviour from Saira.

James dealt with it brilliantly by not rising to her stupid racism accusations, he stayed calm, stayed interested in her personally and even befriended her. He confronted her prejudice towards him with kindness.

Marnie/Bear both managed to stay reasoned with her throughout their discussions but sadly they let themselves down totally with the boob flash thing.

All that will do is play into Saira's hands. She's wanted to be the victim from day one and now they have handed it to her on a gold plate. They should have kept shtum and let her dig her own grave. Instead they gave her fuel for the fire. She will now milk this for the next few weeks, if not months outside the house.

Verdict: Saira is in the wrong. And now with the boob flash thing, so are Marnie and Bear.

Shame because Marnie and Bear were holding their own against her all day and they were in the right, up until the point of boob-gate.

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[TheMachine]

She is up her own arse. Full of herself very patronizing interview mode all the time, soon as people started to challenge her on the BS she turns on the water works.

Bullying are people watching the same stuff i am?. Bear was mainly standing his ground on the stupid **** she was applying to him from hardly any substance. She really doesn't seem like a nice person, very manipulative.

The part on marmie showing her tits for dare was poorly timed after all the other drama. distasteful. She will now play the victim, ill get out my violin.

[Jake.]

100%. The whole "I've got bigger boobs than you"/tit flashing wasn't even funny when she was already upset. The younger people in there are repulsive.

[Drew.]

Unfortunately. I don't particularly like her or the intimidating way she talks to people but for a bunch of immature cretins who have no brain cells between them then this is the perfect reason for them to gang up on her. Had there not been anyone else in the house to speak up for Saira then this would easily become a bullying situation if they were able to continue which they probably would have.

[LukeB]

I don't think Marnie flashing her tits to her was done in a horrible/nasty way, it was stupid and wrong and pretty immature but She will probably feel remorse about it well hopefully anyway. I hope she gets a warning though and learn from her mistake.

But for Bear he has randomly took a dislike to her and I felt he has been targeting her since day 1, maybe it;s jealously because of the immunity thing he said it was a smart move for her but he seemed to have an issue with it. He has been the worse towards her and he will show no remorse.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by LukeB

I don't think Marnie flashing her tits to her was done in a horrible/nasty way, it was stupid and wrong and pretty immature but She will probably feel remorse about it well hopefully anyway. I hope she gets a warning though and learn from her mistake.

But for Bear he has randomly took a dislike to her and I felt he has been targeting her since day 1, maybe it;s jealously because of the immunity thing he said it was a smart move for her but he seemed to have an issue with it. He has been the worse towards her and he will show no remorse.

He hasn't been targeting her. When he was asking for help over the wardrobe space she was plain rude to him. Then in the bathroom she was asking him inappropriate questions then in the kitchen she claims he might be a risk to her safety. The woman is barking mad.

[Northern Monkey]

She has singled everyone one out and been a bitch to them and did'nt like being called out on it,Did'nt apologise and could'nt admit she was wrong.Then played the victim when she'd been sussed.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

She has singled everyone one out and been a bitch to them and did'nt like being called out on it,Did'nt apologise and could'nt admit she was wrong.Then played the victim when she'd been sussed.

True, she is a nightmare, but at that stage Marnie was the better person for apologising. She's not a better person now, is she? Saira now has the upper hand and Marnie has shown herself to be a stupid, vengeful, immature little girl.

[azi]

They're intimidated by an intelligent WOC.

[chuff me dizzy]

Is she hell ,she brought all the dislikes the hm8s have for her on herself, even yesterday when she did her "poor me"audition from her bed,she managed to stick a knife in Marnies back .... Reap and sow Saira ,Reap and sow

[jet]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Is she hell ,she brought all the dislikes the hm8s have for her on herself, even yesterday when she did her "poor me"audition from her bed,she managed to stick a knife in Marnies back .... Reap and sow Saira ,Reap and sow

You're not condoning what Marnie did, are you?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by jet

You're not condoning what Marnie did, are you?

Im not condoning Saira cornering people and using them to big herself up .no I'm not

[jet]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Im not condoning Saira cornering people and using them to big herself up .no I'm not

Neither am I, she's a nightmare, but you know that's not what I asked.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by jet

Neither am I, she's a nightmare, but you know that's not what I asked.

My answer to any questions about Saira is .....she brought it ALL on herself

[Nicky91]

i feel sorry for her, because she's being bullied by vile Marnie

[Vanessa]

Saira needs to stop the interrogation. Can't she just. Have a convo without accusing people? No wonder they're fed up. Bear did go too far last night and Marnie can't handle her drink. But great that Heavy D and Lewis have already talked to Saira and cleared the air, very mature.