[Ella]

The reality of it is Shilpa is a trillion times better then Jade is, in every way!

Shilpa is talented, beautiful and has a real career, which she has worked very hard for....All Jade did to gain her 'Career' is get naked and ask 'Am I mingin?'. Jade is a low life, pathetic attention seeking ' I would do anything for more fame' Celeb << If you can call her that

[Chrizzle]

I've been thinking about this arguement and you are both right.

Shilpa is an icon to Indians. Everyone in India wants to be like her, well the females. She has great success etc

Jade IS a reality TV icon. Every reality TV contestant wants to have her success. You may laugh, but its true.

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by James
Basically, a lot people think that Jade is a bully and doesn't treat others very well and why should she get a celebrity career on the back of that.

It might be different if she had some sort of talent to offer.

It is true that Jade Goody has appeared on reality shows. Big Brother and a few others.

People do think that Jade Goody is a bully. This is what they witness on these reality shows

When, "Celebrity Big Brother 2007" came about. We were all looking forward to it. More exciting stuff!

But, sadly things were a little boring in the first part of the show. (The first week.) The ratings were way down and a lot of people were complaining about this "split" in the Big Brother house. Making sevants of "8" of the housemates.

Shilpa, Ken & Jermaine were NOW part of Jade Goody's family.

It was the, "Jade Goody show", all of a sudden. (everything changed)

Jade Goody, like you say, is considered to be a "Bully", as she can act like that on these reality shows. Especially her two appearances on Big Brother. We make judgements on her, because of what we see in those edited highlights.

THIS IS TRUE!! We do look and we do judge. Just from that!

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Jade Goody will have advisors and also, her mother will have opinions of how Jade Goody should milk what people want.

WHAT DO PEOPLE WANT?

TROUBLE!!!!

A Big Brother scandal of some type. This girl, "Jade Goody" has brought this January's Big Brother into something massive. It touched people globally and has become the biggest advertising campaign that Big Brother could ever imagine.

It was NOT for the right reasons. But scandal makes headlines and makes people watch!

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The answer to your question:- "Jade is a bully and doesn't treat others very well and why should she get a celebrity career on the back of that."

IS,

That Jade will act like that on these reality shows, which does not prove that she is a bully, outside of the show.

People who know Jade Goody personally, will naturally have another story to tell. Some might agree with you? But, there maybe reasons for that. It is debatable, of course!

Jade Goody did get a celebrity career. That is just the way things are. Some might not understand, "Why?", because they see her on Big Brother and judge her attitude as like that.

Jade goody has really gone from strength to strength.

Even Big Brother wanted her back. "Please take £50,000", Come back, please!!

This is very true!

Maybe the opinions of certain people, made this happen to Jade Goody, this January? It is only a maybe, of course.

Personal revenge! Maybe?

(The girl that made it & shouldn't have?)

Is that a fair judgement? Jade Goody is a person with a short temper, especially on Big Brother. There are many people like this, all over the world. Plenty with agression and stress which they will take out on others.

But to judge Jade Goody and then, laugh at her sudden downfall, saying that she is getting "Karma" or "You reap what you sow?" is putting what she did on Just this January's Big Brother as worse than anything else you could think of.

Many talentless people get on in life.

I could mention a few!

But, they are not fighting for their lives or career or trying to prove to everyone that they are not a racist person.

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by Nowhere

I didnt mention Jade being racist.

It's simple. Jade is controlled by a team of people. They prepare a situation to put her in, then they release her into it like 'a bull in a china shop'. Jade acts like her stupid self making sure she is very disrespectful and offensive, and the headlines come spewing out from the tabloid media morons.

It is a simple concept that isnt hard to understand. If youre wondering WHY they go to all this trouble, ask yourself if it is just a pleasant coincidence that MILLIONS and MILLIONS of pounds is made from all this.

I never said that you mentioned that she is a "racist". Just that many think that she is! I am very glad that is your opinion. it is nice to hear.

Sadly, due to the mass opinion of people, here in the UK and in India. The words, (Jade Goody) & (racist) are together in one sentance and that is so real for Jade Goody and the media love it.

Jade will have advisors and management who will whisper in her ear and say, "Cause a bit of hell in the house!!!" "It makes people watch you and people want you too". Being boring and quiet, doesn't get you noticed, generally!!

However, Jade Goody will go in the house and still not have any idea of who she'll meet. They may all be nice and kind, etc..

Jade Goody is not going to start on innocent people. It is always because they have been lying to her or something. Jade Goody has little time for liars and plenty won't blame her.

Jade will start getting mad, that is what she can be like. But don't judge her from the edited highlights of reality shows.

Nothing bad has ever happened to Jade Goody, like this year. This was totally about the racist overtones, etcc.,. and nothing else.

The Ken Russell argument was not hardly mentioned. (AN ARGUMENT IS AN ARGUMENT. A FALL OUT IS A FALL OUT)


So, this says it all and even though you don't like Jade Goody's ways. She probably wouldn't like your ways?

But Jade Goody has suffered like mad and this is unjust!! [/quote]

Um, she spewed out a great load of lies when she exited BB.. like, I havn't seen my children in weeks,my windows were smashed by angry BB viewers, and don't get me started on those embarrassing crocodile tears! Jade is a liar, so obviously she's also a hypocite now too, afterall she can't persecute someone for bending the truth, when she does it herself.. [/quote]




Can you be more precise on the timing of your first quote?

You say, "When she exited Big Brother". Was this when she spoke to Dermot, Davina or News of the world, or after that?
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Apparently, she had a cracked window? Not a broken window. Maybe at that point, she didn't have the correct information. Cracked or broken. That's a tough one!!!

I would still put that as quite low on the list of Jade Goody's priorities right now. Would you agree with that?

Jade Goody is NOT into crocodile tears. She is afraid for her children. If she didn't have any. Things may be different? we'll never know!

Regarding the Lying part. "Who on this forum as NEVER lied in their life?" I certainly can't put my hand in the air.

I am human and have sinned and lied at times. But it is strange how you want to sound like Jade has to be perfect when she is definately not and would never admit that, as that would be a lie.

I hope you can tell the truth, too?

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by tinkerbell
Eeew people actually think Jade is an icon? She is a loud mouth chav and thats all she ever be.

She is somebody special.

A person who has made it, just by being herself. She is not the most well mannered person in the world and is not the prettiest girl in the world and is not a size, "0", or anywhere near. She has a short temper and also, she speaks her mind.

She talks fast and many find her voice irrotating too.

I could go on about why Jade Goody is not your girl.

But, How many people went out and bought her fitness video?

I know that she is a success story and people hate that. But it is true.

She made it and many didn't like her and NOW, due to January's C. Big Brother, she has more enemies, than she can shake a stick it.

It will be an uphill struggle for her to prove herself again.

But Jade Goody is a real fighter and will succeed, where others have failed.

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by Shilpa_Fan

Oh dear LORD! Hang me now! I made a type and edited my post but forgot to take out the word people... God what have I done, i've brought out my secret that I am a racist... umm ok, got to start doing community service to prove that I am not, maybe for a UK based organisation

I think I can see through your, "sarcasm?"

Jade won't do "community service", she hasn't commited a crime. Nor have you.

You can sleep easy.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by nodisharmony
She is somebody special.

Absolute twaddle.

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by Elz_Belz
The reality of it is Shilpa is a trillion times better then Jade is, in every way!

Shilpa is talented, beautiful and has a real career, which she has worked very hard for....All Jade did to gain her 'Career' is get naked and ask 'Am I mingin?'. Jade is a low life, pathetic attention seeking ' I would do anything for more fame' Celeb << If you can call her that

Shilpa Shetty seems like a nice person? I have said that comment, as I saw her on Celebrity Big Brother and she came over very nice.

This, however proves nothing.

Shilpa Shetty will have a temper at times. Like we all do. She could be a nasty person?

I bet you don't want to hear what she could be?

Jade Goody is acting like this on a reality show! She is on camera and knows that she will be seen, doing this.

It is like being an actress. Playing a part. Jade Goody does an amazing job for reality shows.

Big Brother have always talked about Jade Goody. She has the words, "Big Brother" attached to her. This is where she started it all off.

Jade Goody getting (Naked), is hardly something that people want to see. "DO YOU??"

Danielle Lloyd, YES!!

There is nothing wrong in posing or modelling for the camera. Jade usually does it with her knickers on.

Hardly "Tracy Lords!"

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Jade Goody enjoys what she does and there is nothing wrong with wanting to be famous and popular? Is there?

Shilpa is okay, "lookswise?" She is a Bollywood film star. That is a job!

Jade Goody is a name which we all know and she works hard.

Your, "Lowlife" & "pathetic" comments are not part of Jade Goody's life. (sorry)

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by Chrizzle
I've been thinking about this arguement and you are both right.

Shilpa is an icon to Indians. Everyone in India wants to be like her, well the females. She has great success etc

Jade IS a reality TV icon. Every reality TV contestant wants to have her success. You may laugh, but its true.

I am glad you agree with forum users who like Shilpa Shetty and also Jade Goody.

It is hard to find a problem with either of them.


Nobody would have hated Jade Goody, as much as they do today. and for the wrong reasons.

I really warmed to Shilpa Shetty on Celebrity Big Brother. She came over so nice and I wished that it had all been happy families on the show.

Sadly, it didn't happen.

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MY GOD!!! 10,000+ posts to this forum.

You are very dedicated!!! CHRIZZLE LOL.

[spacebandit]

Jade is not "winning people over" because her motivations are as transparent as glass

Its all about her "career"

Nothing More
Nothing Less

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by spacebandit
Jade is not "winning people over" because her motivations are as transparent as glass

Its all about her "career"

Nothing More
Nothing Less

She is NOT interested in her career right now.

It is her safety and her childrens safety.

She hates all of this and it has to get better for her and her family, as people are still believing all this racist nonsense

[Sophii3x]

haha. I really don't blame the people of India. She insulted their country.

[Sophii3x]

Originally posted by nodisharmony
She is NOT interested in her career right now.

It is her safety and her childrens safety.

She hates all of this and it has to get better for her and her family, as people are still believing all this racist nonsense

How do you know that? You know her then?.

[Nowhere]

She is NOT interested in her career right now.

It is her safety and her childrens safety.

She hates all of this and it has to get better for her and her family, as people are still believing all this racist nonsense

If she wasn't interested in saving her career,she wouldn't be travelling to india with a bunch of paparazzi, she'd instead be travelling to a remote location with her children,and laying low for a while.Then after waiting for it to die down a little, then plan the trips to India or wherever, to try to repair the damage she's done.

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by Sophii3x

How do you know that? You know her then?.

Whether I know her or not? Doesn't change the facts!

Jade Goody has said many times in interviews that she is terified of this racial angle. People believing that she is a racist person and is generally a bully.

Jade Goody is NOT generally a bully!

She can get touchy at times and does so on reality shows.

Whether she is just giving what the viewing audience wants? Is something that only Jade Goody will know herself.

Jade loves her two boys and that was her most important thing to her. Being a mother who can protect her children from harm

That is why she has gone to such lengths to protect them.

Looking at this interview with Dermot O'Leary:-
Click on this link:- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8yBacoKdqw

In the Dermot O'Leary interview, she is very passionate about her children and also, her behavior and also offending people and Shilpa and her family too.

Most arguments that Jade Goody has had, have never been looked at in this way.

IT IS A NIGHTMARE, THAT MUST GO AWAY FOR HER!!!

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by Nowhere

If she wasn't interested in saving her career,she wouldn't be travelling to india with a bunch of paparazzi, she'd instead be travelling to a remote location with her children,and laying low for a while.Then after waiting for it to die down a little, then plan the trips to India or wherever, to try to repair the damage she's done.

You must understand that "safety" is paramount!

Jade Goody's edited footage has made many people believe that she is a raicst person. Also, the people that have most been offended are Indian people.

She is walking into the Lion's den.

She would prefer to come back to England, without being assaulted or worse!

A remote location is safer and still get's publicised at the same time.

Jade Goody has given £100,000 away. That is a great gesture which is going to do good for many.

SHE UNDERSTANDS, HOW PEOPLE HAVE BEEN OFFENDED AND IS DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

[Sophii3x]

Originally posted by nodisharmony
Whether I know her or not? Doesn't change the facts!

Jade Goody has said many times in interviews that she is terified of this racial angle. People believing that she is a racist person and is generally a bully.

Jade Goody is NOT generally a bully!

She can get touchy at times and does so on reality shows.

Whether she is just giving what the viewing audience wants? Is something that only Jade Goody will know herself.

Jade loves her two boys and that was her most important thing to her. Being a mother who can protect her children from harm

That is why she has gone to such lengths to protect them.

Looking at this interview with Dermot O'Leary:-
Click on this link:- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8yBacoKdqw

In the Dermot O'Leary interview, she is very passionate about her children and also, her behavior and also offending people and Shilpa and her family too.

Most arguments that Jade Goody has had, have never been looked at in this way.

IT IS A NIGHTMARE, THAT MUST GO AWAY FOR HER!!!

She's not a bully. Please don't make me laugh. Renember Sophie?
If she wants to protect her kids, why is she out there trying to save her career when she could have just gone back to normal life, away from the spotlight? She makes things worse for herself

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by Sophii3x

She's not a bully. Please don't make me laugh. Renember Sophie?
If she wants to protect her kids, why is she out there trying to save her career when she could have just gone back to normal life, away from the spotlight? She makes things worse for herself

Jade's bullying is on reality shows.

However, we call it bullying? but is it always like that?

NO IT ISN'T!!

Jade Goody will get angry over a lie that she has been told. She will then, have it out with them in an argument or a discussion.

YOU CALL THAT BULLYING?? Get Real!!!!

This is the problem with some of the viewing public. They assume too much and look at Jade & say, "Bully", "Racist".

These two words are serious accusations, which are not evident. especially the racist part.
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You say that she is out there, trying to save her career??

WHAT MAKES YOU SAY THAT??


It is her childrens safety and herself and her mother, which comes before her career!

AND THAT IS FACT!!!
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Regarding your comment, whereby, you expect Jade Goody to do what YOU want and people like yourself, who expect Jade to just hide away into obscurity.

That just proves that everybody who hates her is right!!

SHE WOULD HAVE TO LIVE WITH THAT!! and she WON'T!!!!

Sorry to disappoint you.

Jade Goody is a fighter and shall keep on fighting until she clears her name. Her future career has nothing to do with this, It is NOT justice, in any way, shape or form.

[Sophii3x]

Originally posted by nodisharmony

Jade's bullying is on reality shows.

However, we call it bullying? but is it always like that?

NO IT ISN'T!!

Jade Goody will get angry over a lie that she has been told. She will then, have it out with them in an argument or a discussion.

YOU CALL THAT BULLYING?? Get Real!!!!

This is the problem with some of the viewing public. They assume too much and look at Jade & say, "Bully", "Racist".

These two words are serious accusations, which are not evident. especially the racist part.
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You say that she is out there, trying to save her career??

WHAT MAKES YOU SAY THAT??


It is her childrens safety and herself and her mother, which comes before her career!

AND THAT IS FACT!!!
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Regarding your comment, whereby, you expect Jade Goody to do what YOU want and people like yourself, who expect Jade to just hide away into obscurity.

That just proves that everybody who hates her is right!!

SHE WOULD HAVE TO LIVE WITH THAT!! and she WON'T!!!!

Sorry to disappoint you.

Jade Goody is a fighter and shall keep on fighting until she clears her name. Her future career has nothing to do with this, It is NOT justice, in any way, shape or form.

I asked you about Sophie, so you really don't think she bullied Sophie?

Also you really don't think that she's trying to save her career! I think you need to get real

She should just get away from everything, be with her kids instead of begging for forgivness. It's not working.

(I'm sure that your a part of Jade's team or something)

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by Sophii3x

I asked you about Sophie, so you really don't think she bullied Sophie?

Also you really don't think that she's trying to save her career! I think you need to get real

She should just get away from everything, be with her kids instead of begging for forgivness. It's not working.

(I'm sure that your a part of Jade's team or something)

The (Big Brother 3) arguments and apparent bullying of "Sophie" was a joint venture.

She was NOT alone in these dislikes of the girl.

Sadly, I was on holiday, when the show was aired.

But I have examined the footage of the arguments, etc..

and it is just, "Typical reality show stuff. Typical Big Brother" You are getting this, WAY, WAY Out of proportion.

Jade Goody is a funny person. She does make friendships in the house and there was two Big Brother shows, before Jade Goody ever came in. SO, she knew what makes people watch these shows.

Plenty of DRAMA.

Jade Goody brings that to the show. But, in real life on interviews and other stuff. She can be a little angel.
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She is NOT looking to save her career.

She wants to be able to walk down the street with her children or even her mother and not have, the words, "Racist" & "Bully" thrown at her.

If she can clear her name and kill two birds with one stone.

Save her career as well as her name!

THEN I WON'T BLAME HER FOR THAT!!

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Jade Goody is NOT going to hide away.

She doesn't want to and she doesn't have to either!

She will get out there and do everything she can to sort this nightmare out and if that bothers you? I'M GLAD!!!

[tinkerbell]

nodisharmony ugggh in every frigging topic! with his big ass lines and big ass statements how he would wipe Jades ass with his mouth!

[spacebandit]

Originally posted by nodisharmony


She is NOT interested in her career right now.

It is her safety and her childrens safety.

She hates all of this and it has to get better for her and her family, as people are still believing all this racist nonsense

She is not interested in her career ? - yet off she goes on a PR trip to india

All those TV appearances before she even saw her kids

All the time she's left her kids to do PR appearances



Pull the other one - its got bells on


She puts self / career before anyone and anything else - no exceptions

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by spacebandit

She is not interested in her career ? - yet off she goes on a PR trip to india

All those TV appearances before she even saw her kids

All the time she's left her kids to do PR appearances



Pull the other one - its got bells on


She puts self / career before anyone and anything else - no exceptions

Her PR trip was all about her children and the safety of herself and family.

India was where people were offended too.

It was a worthwhile trip. She needs to move mountains, which is impossible. But, she made a nice financial gesture and has done this to help the country, where many people have been offended by what Jade and the girls did.

Also, she is showing how, she alone is doing all of this, while the other two are doing very little.

JADE IS VERY BRAVE AND DESERVES MORE SUPPORT THAN WHAT SHE IS GETTING.

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After she left the Big Brother house, she had interviews to do and even though she wanted to see her two boys immediately, the police wouldn't let her.

They were being looked after and were very safe.

Jade Goody had to do the interviews, as she was worried for her family's safety and Jade is NO expert on all of this anyway. (who is?)

She put's her family and her own self preservation before a career, anyday.

Do (You) want to be in her position? It's not ideal....

[Mrluvaluva]

[i]Originally posted by Sophii3x
(I'm sure that your a part of Jade's team or something)

I think you may be right