[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I doubt he could negotiate a free plastic bag in his local Spar

Not if Rob's on the till.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I doubt he could negotiate a free plastic bag in his local Spar

He's negotiated the biggest membership of any party in history

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

He's negotiated the biggest membership of any party in history

yes, Aston Villa have a big support too....

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I doubt he could negotiate a free plastic bag in his local Spar

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by arista

She just said that Live on Marr BBC1HD
so its Jan , Feb or March
next year.


Then the 2 year or less Article 50
is Started.

...amazing news, looking forward to the excellent discussions through this...

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...amazing news, looking forward to the excellent discussions through this...

Yeah, Princess - Let the vitriolic battle of words and insults begin ---- But include me out.

(Dontcha just LOVE Sam Goldwyn ?)

[Scarlett.]

I guess this is just another one of those 'coincidences'?

Sterling hits a 31 year low

[arista]

Originally Posted by Chewy

I guess this is just another one of those 'coincidences'?

Sterling hits a 31 year low

Yes Chewy
many of these things are predicted
now they they have a confirmed the
date of the Start of the 2 year leave deal ,
Worse to come
but after we leave fully
Global Britain is born.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Chewy

I guess this is just another one of those 'coincidences'?

Sterling hits a 31 year low

the whole stock market and steel industry hits the highest points in many years , inflation is low and employment rates are at the highest rate ever.

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by the truth

employment rates are at the highest rate ever.

Does this include 'workfare' and zero hour contracts and all the other little Tory statistic boosters?

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Chewy

Does this include 'workfare' and zero hour contracts and all the other little Tory statistic boosters?

the percentage of zero hours is miniscule at around 900,000 people out of 62 million thats about 1.6%....of those 1.6% many actually like zero hours. They still get sickness and holiday pay and those who do their jobs better get offered more hours. This offers more flexibility in the economy and helps create jobs....the UK has created more jobs than the rest of europe put together in the last 6 years. Wages have grown beyond those in the rest of europe and laws against unscrupulous employers enforcing workers to stay at one place have tightened in the UK. The EU though has allowed more of this zero hours as it has deregulated massive corporations like UBER and allowed them to have all self employed workers, thus no sick pay , no holidays, almost no rights, etc The vice president at european union who made these rules and deregulaitng the disgraceful company uber , then left to join the UBER board...stinks http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-36212446

Im afraid all your anger is all misplaced and aimed in the worng areas....You need to unlearn most of what youve learnt and force yourself into looking at things from a totally different point of view

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Chewy

Does this include 'workfare' and zero hour contracts and all the other little Tory statistic boosters?

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by Livia

I like that a conservative ad, is complaining that Labour didn't put an end to zero hour contracts, when they havent either.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Chewy

I guess this is just another one of those 'coincidences'?

Sterling hits a 31 year low

Yeah - But the rest of Scotland are high as kites.

[the truth]

The facts

Since brexit the stock markets have seen the biggest rises in history, raising 100s of billions in value of british companies, creating enromous wealth and reinvestment in jobs and capital, yet this has barely been reported by the mainstream news? why?

FTSE 100 up 930 to 7070 = 12.9% rise
FTSE 3370 to 18340 = 18.4% rise
FTSE up 620 to 3900 = 16% rise

Lets look at the hysterical june 23rd headlines, it said an 8% fall in FTSE100 was worth Ł120 billion....http://www.independent.co.uk/news/bu...-a7099951.html

By that logic a 13% rise in FTSE 100 must be worth around Ł200 billion rise
and total FTSE100 value is around Ł1.5 trillion


Hysterical headlines on FTSE250 on day of brexit http://www.independent.co.uk/news/bu...-a7099951.html

FTSE 250 is estimated to be worth 13% of FTSE 250 so thats around Ł195 billion rise
An 18.4% rise is worth around Ł35.66 billion rise

FTSE350 is up 16% that is estimated to be worth over Ł100 billion rise

Total rise for just FTSE 100 and FTSE250 is estimated to be worth Ł235 billion since brexit! So much for economic collapse!

[the truth]

Since brexit the stock markets have seen the biggest rises in history, raising 100s of billions in value of british companies, creating enromous wealth and reinvestment in jobs and capital, yet this has barely been reported by the mainstream news? why?

FTSE 100 up 930 to 7070 = 12.9% rise
FTSE 3370 to 18340 = 18.4% rise
FTSE up 620 to 3900 = 16% rise

Lets look at the hysterical june 23rd headlines, it said an 8% fall in FTSE100 was worth Ł120 billion....http://www.independent.co.uk/news/bu...-a7099951.html

By that logic a 13% rise in FTSE 100 must be worth around Ł200 billion rise
and total FTSE100 value is around Ł1.5 trillion


Hysterical headlines on FTSE250 on day of brexit http://www.independent.co.uk/news/bu...-a7099951.html

FTSE 250 is estimated to be worth 13% of FTSE 250 so thats around Ł195 billion rise
An 18.4% rise is worth around Ł35.66 billion rise

FTSE350 is up 16% that is estimated to be worth over Ł100 billion rise

Total rise for just FTSE 100 and FTSE250 is estimated to be worth Ł235 billion since brexit! If you add FTSE 350 too, thats a Ł335 billion rise !!!

The entire GDP of the UK is only Ł2.2 trillion per annum
so Ł335 billion is 15% of our entire GDP
so much for our economic collapse lol

[the truth]

Surely tony bliar would never tell porky pies?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by the truth

Surely tony bliar would never tell porky pies?

It's his claim to fame, surely?

[the truth]

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/unit...mployment-rate

There were 1.63 million unemployed people, 39,000 fewer than for February to April 2016; 190,000 fewer than for a year earlier and the lowest since March to May 2008.

There were 901,000 unemployed men, 88,000 fewer than for a year earlier. There were 731,000 unemployed women, 102,000 fewer than for a year earlier. 31.77 million people were working: 174,000 more than for February to April 2016 and 559,000 more than for a year earlier. 23.25 million were working full-time, 434,000 more than for a year earlier. There were 8.51 million people working part-time, 126,000 more than for a year earlier.

The employment rate was 74.5 percent, the joint highest since comparable records began in 1971.

There were 8.83 million people aged from 16 to 64 who were economically inactive, 92,000 fewer than for February to April 2016 and 195,000 fewer than for a year earlier. The inactivity rate was 21.5 percent, the lowest since comparable records began in 1971.

Average weekly earnings for employees in Great Britain in nominal terms increased by 2.3 percent including bonuses and by 2.1 percent excluding bonuses compared with a year earlier.

[the truth]

amazing how the loony left are so angry about our vibrant healthy booming economy , after the loony left made us bankrupt yet again. What did the note say that they left in the treasury again? "Sorry theres nothing left" pretty much sums up their legacy of 13 years of mostly appalling government

[Jack_]

'Loony left' makes me cringe every time

And describing the Blair years as left wing is ironically rather loony itself

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Jack_

'Loony left' makes me cringe every time

And describing the Blair years as left wing is ironically rather loony itself

it was loony and it left us bankrupt, it took us into illegal wars with the blood of a million innocents and all you are concerned with is the term loony left lol take a look at your priorities jack

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by the truth

it was loony and it left us bankrupt, it took us into illegal wars with the blood of a million innocents and all you are concerned with is the term loony left lol take a look at your priorities jack

I really don't know how many times I have to tell you I'm not a Blairite or supporter of New Labour ideology before you actually get it, I mean I even criticised them in a roundabout way in the post you just quoted

You're preaching to the choir here. My issue was with the term 'loony left' which is so embarrassing I can't stand to read it anymore, and more importantly you using it to describe a centrist government. Don't tarnish the real left in such a way please

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Jack_

I really don't know how many times I have to tell you I'm not a Blairite or supporter of New Labour ideology before you actually get it, I mean I even criticised them in a roundabout way in the post you just quoted

You're preaching to the choir here. My issue was with the term 'loony left' which is so embarrassing I can't stand to read it anymore, and more importantly you using it to describe a centrist government. Don't tarnish the real left in such a way please

Trivial as always lol

The loony left is tarnished enough , if that term upsets you more than the serious issues like 1 million dead iraqis, a bankrupt economy, 1000s dying of neglect and filth on our hospital wards , destruction of civil liberties, illegal immigration and imported terrorists, then you need to take a long travis bickle style look in the mirror.

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

'Loony left' makes me cringe every time

And describing the Blair years as left wing is ironically rather loony itself

Pretty much, Blair and New Labour were pretty much Center-right. I'd rather be Loony left than Raging Racist Right any day.