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Northern Monkey · 01-11-2016, 01:02 PM

As was said on Question Time.
Donald Trump is definitely not an ideal candidate for president.
However compared with Hilary he is a Boy Scout.Anyone else who did what Hilary has done would be in prison and definitely not running for the position of The President of The United States of America,the land of the free,the greatest country in the world etc etc.
Another good point was that Donald Trump has not been complicit in many of the awful decisions and corruption in American politics over the last twenty years.Hilary quite clearly has.
If i was a US citizen I wouldn't vote.

Tom4784 · 01-11-2016, 01:31 PM

Supporting Trump just doesn't make much sense, there's not really an argument for him that holds water. Hillary could gun down a school and she'd still be a better candidate.

He has no political knowledge or skill, his policies are both weak and unrealistic and he'd likely be Russia's puppet. Let's not even get into the business of his party being divided over him or the HUGE fact that he doesn't believe in the democratic process as he basically said he won't accept the result when he loses.

He is a child.

arista · 01-11-2016, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

Supporting Trump just doesn't make much sense, there's not really an argument for him that holds water. Hillary could gun down a school and she'd still be a better candidate.

He has no political knowledge or skill, his policies are both weak and unrealistic and he'd likely be Russia's puppet. Let's not even get into the business of his party being divided over him or the HUGE fact that he doesn't believe in the democratic process as he basically said he won't accept the result when he loses.

He is a child.

No Dezzy
He is a wordsmith
That is helping the Half of America Dumped
With no future or no jobs,

He will get. Rid of Clinton Corruption
Give him a go

user104658 · 01-11-2016, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

Supporting Trump just doesn't make much sense, there's not really an argument for him that holds water. Hillary could gun down a school and she'd still be a better candidate.

He has no political knowledge or skill, his policies are both weak and unrealistic and he'd likely be Russia's puppet. Let's not even get into the business of his party being divided over him or the HUGE fact that he doesn't believe in the democratic process as he basically said he won't accept the result when he loses.

He is a child.

The argument appears to be that Hillary has been involved in "dodgy" political activity whereas Trump has not... conveniently overlooking the fact that Trump has not been in the position to be involved in said activity, as he has only recently become involved in politics. If Trump had been a politician for decades, do we imagine that he would be this "squeaky clean boy scout"? Hmmm. Hillary has a closet full of skeletons like every other high profile career politician. Is this ideal? No, but it is "the norm", and as bad as "the norm" is... Trump is just not the answer. It's like the US voters are trying to put out a fire by throwing petrol on it.

Tom4784 · 01-11-2016, 01:46 PM

The whole criminal angle to demonise Hillary is hypocritical anyway given that Trump's got a court date of his own coming up. It's strange that Hillary is getting **** when charges haven't been brought against her when you consider that Trump has a court date in December for allegedly raping a child.

If she's guilty until proven innocent then surely the same goes for Trump.

Liberty4eva · 01-11-2016, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

The whole criminal angle to demonise Hillary is hypocritical anyway given that Trump's got a court date of his own coming up. It's strange that Hillary is getting **** when charges haven't been brought against her when you consider that Trump has a court date in December for allegedly raping a child.

If she's guilty until proven innocent then surely the same goes for Trump.

The reason that child rape thing isn't getting attention here is because no one believes it. We don't even know the girl's name. The media have given up trying to smear Trump on this issue because it is back-firing.

Liberty4eva · 01-11-2016, 04:44 PM

Surprise, surprise, many people commenting did not watch the video. I try to engage people on an intellectual level but sometimes they won't have it. On November 9th I expect a lot of hatred on this forum because Trump is going to be the next president and the USA and the West will at last have a true leader.

Withano · 01-11-2016, 02:13 PM

Kirk, I made the same conclusion in one minute as many others did in 36. This speak volumes about the quality of the video in question.

I dont really understand your motive, you have said nothing of substance about the video and only criticised other points. You have brought nothing and attempted to detract from others. Not only is this childish, it automatically disqualifies the validity of your posts, and i know you have struggled with debates in the past but this is not usually how they tend to work. Criticising the other side, perhaps. Youre half way there, but at least add somethhing of value.

jaxie · 01-11-2016, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Withano

Kirk, I made the same conclusion in one minute as many others did in 36. This speak volumes about the quality of the video in question.

I dont really understand your motive, you have said nothing of substance about the video and only criticised other points. You have brought nothing and attempted to detract from others. Not only is this childish, it automatically disqualifies the validity of your posts, and i know you have struggled with debates in the past but this is not usually how they tend to work. Criticising the other side, perhaps. Youre half way there, but at least add somethhing of value.

And yet for all of a whole thread the other day you harassed me because you presumed I hadn't read a link.

Kizzy · 01-11-2016, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jaxie

And yet for all of a whole thread the other day you harassed me because you presumed I hadn't read a link.

Have we had your opinion on this thread yet?.... Unless I missed it, in which case I apologise.

jaxie · 01-11-2016, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

Have we had your opinion on this thread yet?.... Unless I missed it, in which case I apologise.

Whatever do you mean?

Withano · 02-11-2016, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jaxie

And yet for all of a whole thread the other day you harassed me because you presumed I hadn't read a link.

I have no idea what youre going on about

Kizzy · 01-11-2016, 07:46 PM

Can you hear the cheering in the vid.... what are they cheering?

He said he's going to reduce federal jobs, is that not their public and civil services?
In all departments excepting the dept of war!
then he's going to hack at regulations.... what is he deregulating is that not important to know to decide if it's a god/bad thing?

At this point all rationality has gone out of the window, America appears to me to be in some twilight zone... What the actual hell is going on? :/

user104658 · 01-11-2016, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

Can you hear the cheering in the vid.... what are they cheering?

He said he's going to reduce federal jobs, is that not their public and civil services?
In all departments excepting the dept of war!
then he's going to hack at regulations.... what is he deregulating is that not important to know to decide if it's a god/bad thing?

At this point all rationality has gone out of the window, America appears to me to be in some twilight zone... What the actual hell is going on? :/

World is ****ed Kizzy, have you not been paying attention for the last decade? This is nothing new, just more of the same spiral, it's going down in flames... but that doesn't happen over night, it takes decades. The Roman Empire took 200 - 300 years to fall from peak to complete ruin. The world obviously moves a lot faster these days but we can still expect it to take at least 40 - 50 years. We're only 8 years into the fun

Kizzy · 01-11-2016, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

World is ****ed Kizzy, have you not been paying attention for the last decade? This is nothing new, just more of the same spiral, it's going down in flames... but that doesn't happen over night, it takes decades. The Roman Empire took 200 - 300 years to fall from peak to complete ruin. The world obviously moves a lot faster these days but we can still expect it to take at least 40 - 50 years. We're only 8 years into the fun

Jamie89 · 01-11-2016, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

World is ****ed Kizzy, have you not been paying attention for the last decade? This is nothing new, just more of the same spiral, it's going down in flames... but that doesn't happen over night, it takes decades. The Roman Empire took 200 - 300 years to fall from peak to complete ruin. The world obviously moves a lot faster these days but we can still expect it to take at least 40 - 50 years. We're only 8 years into the fun

Aaaaaaaand I'm depressed

jaxie · 01-11-2016, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

World is ****ed Kizzy, have you not been paying attention for the last decade? This is nothing new, just more of the same spiral, it's going down in flames... but that doesn't happen over night, it takes decades. The Roman Empire took 200 - 300 years to fall from peak to complete ruin. The world obviously moves a lot faster these days but we can still expect it to take at least 40 - 50 years. We're only 8 years into the fun

Are we going to have zombies? Please say we are as I'm really looking forward to the zombies.

jaxie · 01-11-2016, 02:48 PM

Now Bananarama is stuck in my head for the rest of the day. Thanks Johnny!

Jamie89 · 01-11-2016, 04:31 PM

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Robert De Niro exposed by Donald Trump.

A sexual assault tea

rk3388 · 01-11-2016, 04:45 PM

Also as someone passionate for environmental issues, Donald's vilifying of the EPA (who doesn't have strict enough control over oil sands) is disgusting, and the fact he doesn't "believe" in climate change when for a long time it has been a scientific fact and no longer a theory

Liberty4eva · 01-11-2016, 07:45 PM

Wanted to give thanks to the few (but impeccably wise) Donald Trump supporters on here and in the UK. Here are some really awesome videos of his UK supporters. It helps boost our spirits.

And don't worry, WE WILL make the right decision on November 8th!

Youtube video