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jaxie · 03-04-2017, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

'In once secret files, now tucked away in the National Archives at Kew, The Independent has discovered the outlines of a cunning plan, drawn up by a succession of far-sighted civil servants and senior military officers, for a very hard, hard Brexit. It involves the option of blowing up the Channel Tunnel with a nuclear bomb, and not telling the French what we are up to.'

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/lo...-a7662711.html

Says a lot about the newspaper you like quote really.

Northern Monkey · 03-04-2017, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

'In once secret files, now tucked away in the National Archives at Kew, The Independent has discovered the outlines of a cunning plan, drawn up by a succession of far-sighted civil servants and senior military officers, for a very hard, hard Brexit. It involves the option of blowing up the Channel Tunnel with a nuclear bomb, and not telling the French what we are up to.'

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/lo...-a7662711.html

Northern Monkey · 03-04-2017, 12:12 PM

On the Marr show someone was saying Spain are playing with fire if they want to play games with us because we can start too by helping Catalonia get independence.

If it came to war Spain would come off worst.We'd kick their ass.

Kizzy · 03-04-2017, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jaxie

Says a lot about the newspaper you like quote really.

Does it... What exactly does it say, that you can't trust the British?
Because clearly you can't.

Kizzy · 03-04-2017, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

On the Marr show someone was saying Spain are playing with fire if they want to play games with us because we can start too by helping Catalonia get independence.

If it came to war Spain would come off worst.We'd kick their ass.

Yeah a world war over a rock...wouldn't surprise me, thatcher took us to war for a field.

Northern Monkey · 03-04-2017, 01:31 PM

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Yeah a world war over a rock...wouldn't surprise me, thatcher took us to war for a field.

Good job you're not in charge then.You'd be giving away territory left right and centre.

Kizzy · 03-04-2017, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Good job you're not in charge then.You'd be giving away territory left right and centre.

Well I wouldn't be sending other peoples kids to foreign lands to be killed for nothing if that's what you mean.

Northern Monkey · 03-04-2017, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

Well I wouldn't be sending other peoples kids to foreign lands to be killed for nothing if that's what you mean.

So Spain sends troops into Gibralter then what d'ya do?

'Si senor it's all yours'

Argentina sends troops into the Falklands?

'Si senor it's all yours'

You know the main job role of a PM is to defend their people right?

Scarlett. · 03-04-2017, 02:13 PM

Jesus, we've triggered Article 50 a few days ago, and already there's people talking about war with Spain. This country is delusional.

Northern Monkey · 03-04-2017, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Chewy

Jesus, we've triggered Article 50 a few days ago, and already there's people talking about war with Spain. This country is delusional.

Spain shouldn't get too big for their botas then.They're just using Brexit as an excuse to gain some extra territory.

Northern Monkey · 03-04-2017, 02:18 PM

Maybe we tell spain they can have Gibralter and we take Ibiza.Fair swap

Kizzy · 03-04-2017, 02:23 PM

It gets funnier... now it's Europes fault that May didn't mention Gibraltar in the brexit letter

'The Prime Minister and her Brexit minister David Davis were reportedly tricked into excluding the Rock from the Article 50 letter, which was personally handed to European Council president Donald Tusk on Wednesday.

Gibraltar officials claim Spanish ministers managed to persuade the Department for Exiting the European Union (Dexeu) to omit any mention of the overseas territory - despite lobbying by Gibraltar for inclusion in the wording.'

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/...icle-50-letter

Scarlett. · 03-04-2017, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Spain shouldn't get too big for their botas then.They're just using Brexit as an excuse to gain some extra territory.

An Armed conflict with Spain is just stupidity, neither side can declare war, since, NATO Article 5 is a thing.

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The key section of the treaty is Article 5. Its commitment clause defines the casus foederis. It commits each member state to consider an armed attack against one member state, in Europe or North America, to be an armed attack against them all.

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It's just politicians blustering, trying to make themselves out to be 'Defenders of the Realm'. This wont be the another Falklands.

Kizzy · 03-04-2017, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Chewy

An Armed conflict with Spain is just stupidity, neither side can declare war, since, NATO Article 5 is a thing.

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It's just politicians blustering, trying to make themselves out to be 'Defenders of the Realm'. This wont be the another Falklands.

Once we've brexitted we won't stay part of NATO... imo

Scarlett. · 03-04-2017, 02:28 PM

Not staying part of NATO is even stupider than Brexit, which is, pretty damn stupid itself.

Kizzy · 03-04-2017, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Chewy

Not staying part of NATO is even stupider than Brexit, which is, pretty damn stupid itself.

Oh we have Trump and China now, we don't need Europe.

Northern Monkey · 03-04-2017, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Chewy

An Armed conflict with Spain is just stupidity, neither side can declare war, since, NATO Article 5 is a thing.

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It's just politicians blustering, trying to make themselves out to be 'Defenders of the Realm'. This wont be the another Falklands.

And if Spain sent troops into Gibralter then it would be them who is declaring war.Trying to annex a British territory.So you think nato would come to our aid?I doubt it.I think they'd let us sort it out.

Scarlett. · 03-04-2017, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

And if Spain sent troops into Gibralter then it would be them who is declaring war.Trying to annex a British territory.So you think nato would come to our aid?I doubt it.I think they'd let us sort it out.

I doubt Spain would be that stupid, other countries may keep out of the conflict, but Spain would most likely be ejected from NATO, and even face some trade embargoes. The idea of a modern day conflict in Europe is just... silly. Especially when Russia have been making the moves they have.

Northern Monkey · 03-04-2017, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Chewy

I doubt Spain would be that stupid, other countries may keep out of the conflict, but Spain would most likely be ejected from NATO, and even face some trade embargoes. The idea of a modern day conflict in Europe is just... silly. Especially when Russia have been making the moves they have.

Yeah its highly unlikely.Spain will back down for sure.They don't have a leg to stand on.

Scarlett. · 03-04-2017, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Yeah its highly unlikely.Spain will back down for sure.They don't have a leg to stand on.

Hopefully, Spain generally like to make a lot of noise about stuff like this, but they don't really act on it.

Northern Monkey · 03-04-2017, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

Once we've brexitted we won't stay part of NATO... imo

Course we will.We're committed.We're already sending troops to the eastern border to defend against Russian aggression.This is crazy talk.No way NATO breaks up while Putin's flexing his muscles.

Kizzy · 03-04-2017, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Course we will.We're committed.We're already sending troops to the eastern border to defend against Russian aggression.This is crazy talk.No way NATO breaks up while Putin's flexing his muscles.

It just my opinion, you don't have to like it :/