[DemolitionRed]

According to some sources, the airfield strike did not damage Syrian aircraft or ordinance, and will not impair their ability to use their air power. Russian forces were informed of the strike beforehand, and it is presumed they informed the Assad regime as well.
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/04/airs...tary-official/

According to the Independent, Trumps biggest fans desert him over Syrian air strikes.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a7671601.html

[user104658]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

According to some sources, the airfield strike did not damage Syrian aircraft or ordinance, and will not impair their ability to use their air power. Russian forces were informed of the strike beforehand, and it is presumed they informed the Assad regime as well.
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/04/airs...tary-official/

According to the Independent, Trumps biggest fans desert him over Syrian air strikes.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a7671601.html

Hmm. Convenient.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

According to some sources, the airfield strike did not damage Syrian aircraft or ordinance, and will not impair their ability to use their air power. Russian forces were informed of the strike beforehand, and it is presumed they informed the Assad regime as well.
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/04/airs...tary-official/

According to the Independent, Trumps biggest fans desert him over Syrian air strikes.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a7671601.html

Yeah the Russian military were informed just before so they could presumably get off the base.Now whether the Russians informed the Syrians who knows.Not all the missiles hit though due to Syrian anti air defences(provided by Russia).

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Yeah the Russian military were informed just before so they could presumably get off the base.Now whether the Russians informed the Syrians who knows.Not all the missiles hit though due to Syrian anti air defences(provided by Russia).

What about the planes and the airstrip? According to pictures, no planes have been damaged and the airstrip runway is still intact. 50 of those missiles could of taken out an entire city. Why so little damage?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

What about the planes and the airstrip? According to pictures, no planes have been damaged and the airstrip runway is still intact. 50 of those missiles could of taken out an entire city. Why so little damage?

Trump is in his 70's, his little spurt has probably lost a lot of its potency. Sure, a younger, more virile president could have wiped out a city with those missiles but Trump's were like a handful of firecrackers. It's not his fault.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Trump is in his 70's, his little spurt has probably lost a lot of its potency. Sure, a younger, more virile president could have wiped out a city with those missiles but Trump's were like a handful of firecrackers. It's not his fault.

A nice bit of ageism to start the day. As I have said before there seems to be a hierarchy of isms on here - some you can laugh and joke about, whilst others you dare not breath their names for fear of on OTT negative response and the feeling of having to 'run for cover'.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

What about the planes and the airstrip? According to pictures, no planes have been damaged and the airstrip runway is still intact. 50 of those missiles could of taken out an entire city. Why so little damage?

From your link-

'The official also told Babb the Tomahawk cruise missiles used in the raid were precision, and not cratering, to minimize damage.

The same official told Babb the airstrike hit a couple dozen Syrian military aircraft, ammunition storage facilities and other airbase infrastructure.

No chemical weapons were hit during the strike, the official said.'


Also 50 Tomahawk's wouldn't anywhere near take out a city.They're only 1000lb bombs.
The first 24 hour barrage of the Iraq war was 500 Tomahawks and even that alone did'nt take out a city.
There were big 2000lb bombs and other cruise missiles launched from bombers.

[arista]

Clash - yes its been that way for decades.


Well , Trump
you only killed around 5 people.

[DemolitionRed]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...-us-tomahawks/
Syrian warplanes took off from the air base hit by US cruise missiles yesterday to carry out bombing raids on rebel-held areas, in a defiant show of strength.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...-us-tomahawks/
Syrian warplanes took off from the air base hit by US cruise missiles yesterday to carry out bombing raids on rebel-held areas, in a defiant show of strength.

Hopefully that doesn't trigger Trump again.Don't want him doing it again.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Hopefully that doesn't trigger Trump again.Don't want him doing it again.

Yeah well I think its going to get worse before it gets better

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Yeah well I think its going to get worse before it gets better

Unfortunately i don't think it is going to get better.

[Kizzy]

Youtube video

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Youtube video

We have to take on board everything that comes out of an experts mouth and that includes all sides. Its the difference between seeing a flat square or a whole cube.

[Beso]

Storing chemucal weapons miles from an airfield and under your own sides noses is a stupid place to store chemical weapons...isis are not stupid.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Storing chemucal weapons miles from an airfield and under your own sides noses is a stupid place to store chemical weapons...isis are not stupid.

I would question if its ISIS. There was a documentary on the other night from inside Iraq. (channel 4 Thurs night 22:00) It showed there is nothing left of ISIS in Iraq and now the rebel forces are killing Sunni Muslims en masse. According to the West, there are still around 30,000 ISIS fighters in Iraq but this clearly isn't true.

I think ISIS are probably now playing a very small part in what's happening in Syria but because we, the western public can relate terror to this one group, the media are still using its name. We really don't know who the rebel forces are any more; there are so many of them that as one lot die out, the next take over... and so it goes on.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

I would question if its ISIS. There was a documentary on the other night from inside Iraq. (channel 4 Thurs night 22:00) It showed there is nothing left of ISIS in Iraq and now the rebel forces are killing Sunni Muslims en masse. According to the West, there are still around 30,000 ISIS fighters in Iraq but this clearly isn't true.

I think ISIS are probably now playing a very small part in what's happening in Syria but because we, the western public can relate terror to this one group, the media are still using its name. We really don't know who the rebel forces are any more; there are so many of them that as one lot die out, the next take over... and so it goes on.

I just love it when one ch4 documentary suddenly turns out to be the one and only thing we should be believing.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Youtube video

Agree with that guy.Trump acted quickly and emotionally before any investigation was carried out.We just don't know.Unless the US military know something that has'nt been released.Although you'd think if there was evidence then they'd release it.
He is right about the rebels possibly using chemical weapons to provoke the US into more action too.It's a mess.
I support action against ISIS but the situation has changed way beyond dethroning Assad now.That ship sailed when Russia got involved.

[Kizzy]

I remember the news during the gulf war hearing the Sunni Muslims were against Shia, it's been going on for a generation.... How can you not know this?
You can't mock others by flaunting your own ignorance.

[Livia]

Youtube video

[DemolitionRed]

This is an interesting source from Syrian Arab News
http://sana.sy/en/?p=103798

What its suggesting is, there needs to be a full investigation for this chemical attack and that nobody, including the U.S can point a finger at anyone until that investigation is done. It also suggests that the U.S is not destroying ISIS but using ISIS as an excuse to go in and target the Assad regime.

It also states that Khan Sheikhoun is under the control of Jabhat al-Nusra terror organization, but there are western attempts to hide that, adding that it’s not a coincidence that reports about terrorists stockpiling chemical weapons and using them against civilians are being ignored. In doing so the U.S are in violation of the UN Charter.

[Scarlett.]

This is proof Trump needs to be impeached, all his other misdeeds are nothing compared to this act of stupidity

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Chewy

This is proof Trump needs to be impeached, all his other misdeeds are nothing compared to this act of stupidity

If impeachment is justified, which it isn't, the powers that be will do so, but for Trump haters to use this, or anything else, to get him out is pathetic.

[Kizzy]

And nobody anywhere was surprised...

It has become something of a cliche for Whitehall to reassure British citizens that it has “one of the most robust arms export controls in the world”. It is the stock response civil servants, press officers and ministers turn to when asked about arms sales to human rights abusers or conflict zones, and was used in 2013 when confronted about the decision to grant licences for the sale of chemicals to Syria that could have been used in the production of nerve gas.

Thankfully the licences were revoked, after a Europe-wide embargo. However, there is little doubt that UK-produced chemicals sold to Syria in the past have been used in the production of weapons.

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-uk-arms-trade

[Northern Monkey]

Nato should be concentrating on ISIS along with Russia.However brutal Assad is he should not be the target now.That time has passed now.Regime change should now be off the table.
Wiping ISIS out should be the mission for now.
Hopefully Trump is not going for regime change and this was a one off to show that what he says has teeth unlike Obama who said chemical weapons were a "red line" and did nothing and in the process made the US look weak.
Maybe this was a warning to China that he means business and his real target is North Korea.
Or maybe,The scariest option and the one that is supposed to be the truth.He was emotionally overcome by the images of gassed children and reacted to what he saw.That is the most frightening option because it means that he is very easy to manipulate into emotive actions and shows a lack of control.
These terrorist groups have been known to use chemical weapons and have stockpiles.
They can use them whenever they want to call in a US airstrike if the official line and most terrifying version of events is true.

However none of this says very much for Trumps supposed anti interventionist ideology.