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Increased jobs? You mean workfare and shelf stacking apprenticeships?

Built houses? That no one can really afford

Raised minimum wage? To match inflation
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Because they swallow the 'strong and stable leadership' bull**** without even looking into any of the Tory policies or into what they've done to this country in the last 7 years.
Which means the opposition aren't strong enough and need to work hard make people swallow their bull****
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Which means the opposition aren't strong enough and need to work hard make people swallow their bull****
Hard to do when there is a strong media bias toward the Tories.
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It's sad that people who do not benefit from a Tory government and will likely suffer as a result of the direction the current government is going in are celebrating the fact that their main opposition is being crushed.

Honestly, if you use the NHS or are reliant on any public service then you should be fearing the fact that the Tories are likely going to go unopposed for years to come. Don't celebrate your oppressors.
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It's sad that people who do not benefit from a Tory government and will likely suffer as a result of the direction the current government is going in are celebrating the fact that their main opposition is being crushed.

Honestly, if you use the NHS or are reliant on any public service then you should be fearing the fact that the Tories are likely going to go unopposed for years to come. Don't celebrate your oppressors.
Honestly,your 2nd paragraph sums up so much as to the realities of what I make no apologies for saying,'the horrors' for many people in the next 5 years.

Fearing what could come from this PM and her kind of Conservative govt.is no scaremongering.
We have already seen the vicious and cruel policies done from them with no overall majority between 2010 and 2015.
Then also in these last 2 years with a small overall majority.

Fearing what can come if the Cons now get a bigger majority should worry millions and I really hope it does,enough to have them think about how they vote in this general election too.
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No NHS has worked out really well for the US so I'm totally glad that we'll be following in their footsteps. I can't wait to not be able to afford healthcare for any kind of serious or long term health issue that I may be unfortunate enough to have in the future!

No need to focus on public services when there's sexier issues such as immigration to divert our attention with! We should be perfectly happy to be treated like toddlers that are being distracted with a set of jingling keys!

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2 Conservative
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Over the moon for Andy Burnham winning Manchester, excellent result for him.
One of my favourite politicians and after Brown went he would have been my choice for leader too.

Good luck to him in this important new role.
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Over the moon for Andy Burnham winning Manchester, excellent result for him.
One of my favourite politicians and after Brown went he would have been my choice for leader too.

Good luck to him in this important new role.
Agree.I've always thought he should be leader.He also understands the issues in the north and was trying to tell JC that he's losing votes up north because he's not addressing immigration.He'd get my vote.As would Chukka.I don't think i'm alone with this opinion.I think many old Labour voters would come back.
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The whole thing is just gross and emblematic of an 'I'm alright Jack' attitude sweeping the country. How bad is it going to have to get before people learn?

UKIP's collapse would be something to celebrate if it weren't for the fact the Tories have now pretty much adopted their platform. Honestly I despair, I really do.

Turkeys, voting and Christmas are three words that spring to mind.
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The whole thing is just gross and emblematic of an 'I'm alright Jack' attitude sweeping the country. How bad is it going to have to get before people learn?

UKIP's collapse would be something to celebrate if it weren't for the fact the Tories have now pretty much adopted their platform. Honestly I despair, I really do.

Turkeys, voting and Christmas are three words that spring to mind.
The whole thing is a gross shambolic Labour party. There is no serious opposition. There won't be until they get their act together and shake Corbyn loose.
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I'm not even just talking about voting selfishly, though, I mean being genuinely selfish. If there's a way for us to get ahead at the expense of others, at the expense of community, at expense of the country, I'm in the position of having to take it. I used to care more than I do now, basically. I no longer have the luxury of being able to give a **** about a country / residents of a country that has made it abundantly clear that they do not give a **** about people in our position.

I'm also sure that's exactly how the Tories want it, too. This every man for themselves mentality. But in a world that clearly DOES seem to increasingly celebrate that, what choice is there?
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The results were mixed. We lost seats but we are closing the gap on the Conservatives. I am disappointed at every Labour defeat in the local elections. Too many fantastic councillors, who work tirelessly for their communities, lost their seats.

We have five weeks to win the general election, so we can fundamentally transform Britain for the many not the few.

We know this is no small task – it is a challenge on a historic scale. But we, the whole Labour movement and the British people, can’t afford not to seize our moment.

The British people have been held back for too long. Labour will put more money in people’s pockets with a £10 real living wage, look after our pensioners by protecting the triple-lock on state pensions and give everybody the care and dignity they deserve by properly funding our NHS and social care system.

I urge everyone to vote Labour because things can – and will – change.



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The results were mixed. We lost seats but we are closing the gap on the Conservatives. I am disappointed at every Labour defeat in the local elections. Too many fantastic councillors, who work tirelessly for their communities, lost their seats.

We have five weeks to win the general election, so we can fundamentally transform Britain for the many not the few.

We know this is no small task – it is a challenge on a historic scale. But we, the whole Labour movement and the British people, can’t afford not to seize our moment.

The British people have been held back for too long. Labour will put more money in people’s pockets with a £10 real living wage, look after our pensioners by protecting the triple-lock on state pensions and give everybody the care and dignity they deserve by properly funding our NHS and social care system.

I urge everyone to vote Labour because things can – and will – change.



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Do you have to keep telling yourself this stuff so you believe it?
It's a little out of touch with reality.
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It's a quote so I'll ignore the insult.
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It's a quote so I'll ignore the insult.
I was referring to the quote. You quoted it, do you believe it?
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[QUOTE=Kizzy;9297532]The results were mixed. We lost seats but we are closing the gap on the Conservatives. I am disappointed at every Labour defeat in the local elections. Too many fantastic councillors, who work tirelessly for their communities, lost their seats.

We have five weeks to win the general election, so we can fundamentally transform Britain for the many not the few.

We know this is no small task – it is a challenge on a historic scale. But we, the whole Labour movement and the British people, can’t afford not to seize our moment.

The British people have been held back for too long. Labour will put more money in people’s pockets with a £10 real living wage, look after our pensioners by protecting the triple-lock on state pensions and give everybody the care and dignity they deserve by properly funding our NHS and social care system.

I urge everyone to vote Labour because things can – and will – change.



https://www.theguardian.com/politics...b07939cb6972aa[/QUOTE


I wish you luck.
I will be voting Labour obviously.

7 years of austerity and hammering the sick and disabled and indeed those unemployed too is more than enough for any to have to put up with.

Like others have said,it brings despair into play that the failure of this govts austerity measures get support,and will be given them again for yet another 5 years.

That's why I am off in part from the UK,I can well understand others looking at the divisive road the UK is being taken down by this deceitful PM and govt.and thinking of possibly leaving the UK.

This govt with a bigger majority will bring much more misery to those who are weakest,as they have for the last 7 years.

If people really agree with that and will support it too by electing this govt again,then the UK is really.turning into a pretty bad place to be,' in my view'.
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The results were mixed. We lost seats but we are closing the gap on the Conservatives. I am disappointed at every Labour defeat in the local elections. Too many fantastic councillors, who work tirelessly for their communities, lost their seats.

We have five weeks to win the general election, so we can fundamentally transform Britain for the many not the few.

We know this is no small task – it is a challenge on a historic scale. But we, the whole Labour movement and the British people, can’t afford not to seize our moment.

The British people have been held back for too long. Labour will put more money in people’s pockets with a £10 real living wage, look after our pensioners by protecting the triple-lock on state pensions and give everybody the care and dignity they deserve by properly funding our NHS and social care system.

I urge everyone to vote Labour because things can – and will – change.



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