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In regards the referendum of course there should have been a plan for a leave outcome and clearly there wasn't. But a general election is a very different beast, not sure how you have a back up plan for that.
Not on everything of course, but with specific regard to the ongoing Brexit negotiations. Someone should at least have asked the question; "What happens if it isn't a solid Tory majority?" and had a vague plan in place for transition of that... But the simple fact is, none of them thought for a second that it would be anything but a Tory landslide. Of course, it still might well be, nothing surprises me when it comes to voting outcomes these days, the voting public are for the mostpart fickle, bizarre and unpredictable. But that's the point, really. No one should assume they can "call it" - especially not those in power, for whom doing so has an actual impact.
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The whole free education thing will cost the UK Ł9 billion a year i dont know where he plans on getting the money from
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The whole free education thing will cost the UK Ł9 billion a year i dont know where he plans on getting the money from
Corporation tax. Labour have more money to spend than the tories because theyre taxing corporations billions, whereas tories are looking after the wealthy. Basic stuff adam.
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Corporation tax. Labour have more money to spend than the tories because theyre taxing corporations billions, whereas tories are looking after the wealthy. Basic stuff adam.
So what happens when they take their business elsewhere that wont tax as much?
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So what happens when they take their business elsewhere that wont tax as much?
More room for those hard work migrants that appreciate the uk and want to set up a business here. Win win. Didnt even think of that. Corbyn truly is the hero.
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More room for those hard work migrants that appreciate the uk and want to set up a business here. Win win. Didnt even think of that. Corbyn truly is the hero.
So you would rather a the British lose thousands of jobs for one job for an immigrant?
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The whole free education thing will cost the UK Ł9 billion a year i dont know where he plans on getting the money from
Do you understand how the central bank works?

The central bank can never run out of money. So as long as we can keep borrowing sterling, the country can never go bust. I'm not saying we should over-borrow money because that would be disastrous but so long as we make enough money for the economy to go round and not just into the hands of the biggest land owners, a Labour government could easily deliver its goals. The Tories have been refusing to make that money because their goals don't lay with the working people of Britain.

Spending money borrowed from the central bank is about getting a long term return. Borrowing at 1% is fine providing you invest that borrowing in projects that are going to yield more than 1% The problem with our present government is, its not investing. The result is... as you can see here http://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Documents/FAQ3GovtInv… Just when the economy needed it most the government is withholding.
Labour invested in 2008 to 2010 and the economy recovered from the 2008 crash. The Coalition withdrew investment and we are in a depression as a result.
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May said no to a general election when the people wanted it because her position wasn't secure, she only called for an election when she did because the Tories spotted an opportunity to put paid to Labour and secure their hold on power.

This election was meant to be nothing more than a tactical assassination of the Labour Party and thankfully it's not looking like that'll be the case.

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I dont know why cooperation's should pay the bulk load of taxes for someone else kids to Waste years of money getting drunk
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I dont know why cooperation's should pay the bulk load of taxes for someone else kids to Waste years of money getting drunk
Oh come on. The Tories have made Britain into a tax haven at the expense of middle class and working class Britain.
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Adam, I'm sorry but you clearly don't understand how tax can work in our favour.
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Sends Adam a copy of "The Joy of Tax"
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Like everyone goes to Uni to be a doctor most people go for pointless courses
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Like everyone goes to Uni to be a doctor most people go for pointless courses
Like what
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You think it should be free?
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Webpage didnt load for me, but like, if its out of the richest man in the country having a spare million, or a handful of uk citizens trying to better thmselves with degrees (it is out of this btw, this is the choice) then the latter.

Its really hard to believe that somebody doesnt want Starbucks to contribute to tax, unless somebody who also skives from tax tells them to think this way. The tories are letting them get away with it, and in return, they are sponsoring their campaign. we have the opportunity to force them to contribute, but you're buying into propaganda from the corporations that will be hit hardest.
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Webpage didnt load for me, but like, if its out of the richest man in the country having a spare million, or a handful of uk citizens trying to better thmselves with degrees (it is out of this btw, this is the choice) then the latter.

Its really hard to believe that somebody doesnt want Starbucks to contribute to tax, unless somebody who also skives from tax tells them to think this way. The tories are letting them get away with it, and in return, they are sponsoring their campaign. we have the opportunity to force them to contribute, but you're buying into propaganda from the corporations that will be hit hardest.
People studying things from David Beckham to Star Trek is not worthy of money
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People studying things from David Beckham to Star Trek is not worthy of money
Star Trek degrees in Washington, David Beckhams been discontinued, neither would be free, or available for UK citizens. what else you got... Something relevant to the discussion this time.
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Star Trek degrees in Washington, David Beckhams been discontinued, neither would be free, or available for UK citizens. what else you got... Something relevant to the discussion this time.
He said all education for free so any stupid course would be free like photography
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Its not just uni, its further education colleges and its part time open university courses. Look at it another way. If you want to be a security guard or work in catering, you are expected to take or have the right ticket but right now, obtaining that ticket is expensive. Companies are presently making a killing on these courses. We need to get proper apprenticeships back with minimum cost to the apprentice because if we don't, we will continue, out of need, to employ people from abroad.
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Newsflash.... It's ruined the national debt has doubled since the global financial crash, the NHS is on it's arse, schools are begging for funds and the prison system is on the brink of collapse. If the tories get back in this country is FINISHED.
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Newsflash.... It's ruined the national debt has doubled since the global financial crash, the NHS is on it's arse, schools are begging for funds and the prison system is on the brink of collapse. If the tories get back in this country is FINISHED.
You should travel some, then you'd see how fantastic the country you come from is.
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You should travel some, then you'd see how fantastic the country you come from is.
Awh this made me sad, why do you keep having terrible holidays haha?
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*was*

Of the G7 we are now bottom of the pile.

Unless you mean developing countries or 3rd world countries? We for now are marginally better, although this comparison to other countries in the world is pointless.
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