[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Josy

Well like I said, stop constantly jumping on people for having an opinion about raph that you disagree with and yeah you say what you like, as long as it's not breaking the forum rules

Sorry to intrude. But if we say something positive about Raph I've noticed we quickly get jumped on. It doesn't bother me, because I have people on ignore. But it does happen. Again apologies for intruding.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by LukeB

what about a grown woman? if a grown woman can have a teddy why can't a grown man? men don't have to act like a certain way and hide their toys. I still have mine which sometimes i do take on holiday. i'm not ashamed. doesn't make me pathetic at all. Have you ever thought about why he has a teddy bear? lucky charm or something personal maybe?

Its different for a woman....and before you jump on the sexist band wagon..just try and be real.
men give women flowers...women never give men flowers..its not the done thing. I'm all for men having a childhood teddy or soft toy but its a bit girly to still be cuddling up to them at the age of 18+.
That's my opinion and I'm not getting drawn into the sexist debate.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Sorry to intrude. But if we say something positive about Raph I've noticed we quickly get jumped on. It doesn't bother me, because I have people on ignore. But it does happen. Again apologies for intruding.

Well I can't say I've noticed that at all Vanessa but I do notice that there are some (yourself and luke included) that don't take it well when any negative opinion is posted about raph at all, I've seen you go as far as to make threads suggesting that everyone hates raph when looking at the forum it's clear as day he probably has the most support on here.

Everyone knows how bb works we see it year after year, not everyone will agree or like the same housemates as you do but don't get so bothered by it it's not a big deal.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Sorry to intrude. But if we say something positive about Raph I've noticed we quickly get jumped on. It doesn't bother me, because I have people on ignore. But it does happen. Again apologies for intruding.

Its called debate and discussion...Its a shame you have people on ignore simply because they don't agree with you. Surely that's the purpose of the forum.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Its different for a woman....and before you jump on the sexist band wagon..just try and be real.
men give women flowers...women never give men flowers..its not the done thing. I'm all for men having a childhood teddy or soft toy but its a bit girly to still be cuddling up to them at the age of 18+.
That's my opinion and I'm not getting drawn into the sexist debate.

why should it be different for a woman? actually if a man likes flowers then a woman can buy them flowers, (my best friend did it, which i don't think it's weird at all) teddy bears is not a bit of a girly thing anyway lol

[Josy]

Originally Posted by LukeB

i'm not jumping on anyone at all i was voicing my opinion on a grown man having a teddy bear.

No you never just voiced your opinion you commented that other people only had their opinion because it was Raph...

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Josy

No you never just voiced your opinion you commented that other people only had their opinion because it was Raph...

If Kieran has a teddy bear and i don't really like him i will say the same thing

[TaylorCallum]

The fact that this is turning into a 3 page discussion about teddy bears is kinda making me cackle. This forum is great .

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Josy

Well I can't say I've noticed that at all Vanessa but I do notice that there are some (yourself and luke included) that don't take it well when any negative opinion is posted about raph at all, I've seen you go as far as to make threads suggesting that everyone hates raph when looking at the forum it's clear as day he probably has the most support on here.

Everyone knows how bb works we see it year after year, not everyone will agree or like the same housemates as you do but don't get so bothered by it it's not a big deal.

Like i said, i have many on ignore, so i don't know what they're saying. That thread i made was because of the audition footage they posted. Many on facebook agreed with me.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by LukeB

If Kieran has a teddy bear and i don't really like him i will say the same thing

Raph is this and this bla bla bla because it's raph. God forbid having soft toys

That's your comment ^^^

Anyway I'm done here, stop trying to smother other people's opinions or I'll start infracting for it.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Josy

Raph is this and this bla bla bla because it's raph. God forbid having soft toys

That's your comment ^^^

Anyway I'm done here, stop trying to smother other people's opinions or I'll start infracting for it.

I don't think it's fair for you to threaten me with an infraction when i really haven't done anything wrong. I was just saying my opinion but okay

[Vanessa]

I will keep saying my opinion like i always do. I put people in ignore because i don't want to argue with anyone. But i will say what i think. Just like everyone else here does.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by LukeB

I don't think it's fair for you to threaten me with an infraction when i really haven't done anything wrong. I was just saying my opinion but okay

I'll private message some example quotes to you when I'm home.

[Denver]

I seen a ex housemate (i think Jonty?) being called a pervert on her for carrying a teddy about but nobody cared about that

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by rph

It worked for Kevin Martin so it will work for him - theres our winner folks

haha didn't someone hang one of ThatKevinMartin's ?

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Adam.

I seen a ex housemate (i think Jonty?) being called a pervert on her for carrying a teddy about but nobody cared about that

To be fair he was a bit weird

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Its different for a woman....and before you jump on the sexist band wagon..just try and be real.
men give women flowers...women never give men flowers..its not the done thing.

If we're gonna go down that road, should men not date other men?

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

To be fair he was a bit weird

Josy's point proven

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Adam.

I seen a ex housemate (i think Jonty?) being called a pervert on her for carrying a teddy about but nobody cared about that

well i haven't seen anything on that so.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Josy's point proven

she didn't say he was weird because of the teddy bears..

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Josy's point proven

only because i don't agree with you? wow!

[Vanessa]

It annoys me how you can't have a different opinion in here.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by LukeB

she didn't say he was weird because of the teddy bears..

Originally Posted by Vanessa

So i can't express my opinion? Got it!

Yet kicking up on an opinion when Raph is called weird but going to call someone else weird for the same thing is proving the point that nobody can say a bad word about him

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

I seen a ex housemate (i think Jonty?) being called a pervert on her for carrying a teddy about but nobody cared about that

Well any rational person can see a CLEAR difference between a normal person simply having a soft toy and the bloody weirdness that was Jonty. The man carried it everywhere, spoke in voices for them and also shared that they attend his spanking parties with people of both genders.

So, let's not pretend they're the same thing.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Yet kicking up on an opinion when Raph is called weird but going to call someone else weird for the same thing is proving the point that nobody can say a bad word about him

Just because i think Jonty is weird? That is my opinion of him. Nothing to do with raph. i always tought jonty was weird.