[bots]

james jordan/big dee were horrible, nasty people

[Mitchell]

Oh yes forgot about the vile James Jordan

[HBIC]

Bear.

Single-handedly ruined CBB18. He's lucky he was in a series with a weak cast. Can you imagine him in cbb17 or cbb13? He probably wouldn't last a week.

[Epic.]

Originally Posted by HBIC

Bear.

Single-handedly ruined CBB18. He's lucky he was in a series with a weak cast. Can you imagine him in cbb17 or cbb13? He probably wouldn't last a week.

/caps

[_baileys_]

Bear
Katie Hopkins

[iRyan]

James Jordan
Farrah Abraham
Austin Armacost
Kim Woodburn (<3 tho)
Jasmine Lennard
Julie Goodyear
Katie Hopkins
Spencer Pratt (only on original series)
Stephen Bear

[Amy Jade]

Farrah was an angel it was Bobby Davros who was hateful about a young mum. Terrible man.

[sungrass]

Man sometimes I feel like I have to write an essay to ''explain'' Bear -

I guess if you can't see it - if you are too young and you do not know how hard life is and how fake people are - you wouldnt have seen his teasing for what it was - I noticed him saying several times he wouldnt stand for bullying and he stood up for Heavy D who was obviously going to be a target - and the rest were all united under one flag.

The guy just joshed about - reminding them they were supposed to be entertaining - I dont want to hear someone say "shine bright like a frankie" and not nearly loose my dinner for it. Shine bright like a frankie? Oh come on.

The Mob wife was supposed to be a mob wife???

And the one that spat in his drink?
and the eastenders guy? without him it would have been like watching paint dry - I cant see how people couldnt understand that he was just working his money - eggs are just eggs??

Did he mentally try and attack someone at their core, ever once?

Trying to rouse some dopes into life does not a bully nor a sociopath make. Anyway thank Heavens - he won

* Aubrey went for his core - she tried to destroy him where it really hurt - saying he would never be more than BB etc etc - and what and who is she and what did she do? Spat in his drink and when he drank it - did he make a scene - not at all.

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Originally Posted by sungrass

Man sometimes I feel like I have to write an essay to ''explain'' Bear -

I guess if you can't see it - if you are too young and you do not know how hard life is and how fake people are - you wouldnt have seen his teasing for what it was - I noticed him saying several times he wouldnt stand for bullying and he stood up for Heavy D who was obviously going to be a target - and the rest were all united under one flag.

The guy just joshed about - reminding them they were supposed to be entertaining - I dont want to hear someone say "shine bright like a frankie" and not nearly loose my dinner for it. Shine bright like a frankie? Oh come on.

The Mob wife was supposed to be a mob wife???

And the one that spat in his drink?
and the eastenders guy? without him it would have been like watching paint dry - I cant see how people couldnt understand that he was just working his money - eggs are just eggs??

Did he mentally try and attack someone at their core, ever once?

Trying to rouse some dopes into life does not a bully nor a sociopath make. Anyway thank Heavens - he won

* Aubrey went for his core - she tried to destroy him where it really hurt - saying he would never be more than BB etc etc - and what and who is she and what did she do? Spat in his drink and when he drank it - did he make a scene - not at all.

None of this makes any sense

[DouglasS]

Originally Posted by RobertC

None of this makes any sense

Your arguments are largely based on rumours so it makes more sense than that

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Originally Posted by DouglasS

Your arguments are largely based on rumours so it makes more sense than that

Uh says the one who still won't clarify what I've lied about/rumors You bold text-ed me saying he encouraged Marnie to flash her tits in Saira's face and then acted as though I was making **** up even though that was right there on camera.

[DouglasS]

Originally Posted by RobertC

Uh says the one who still won't clarify what I've lied about/rumors You bold text-ed me saying he encouraged Marnie to flash her tits in Saira's face and then acted as though I was making **** up even though that was right there on camera.

It wouldn't let me bold the whole list so It just went first and last. You said in your post a lot of stuff 'didn't happen onscreen' or 'didn't make the show'

[sungrass]

Originally Posted by RobertC

None of this makes any sense

Yes people who didnt get Bear seem to be quite binary thinkers - maybe young and not very experienced. Snowflakes.

Maybe they ve never watched only fools and horses - and have seen that in the East End joshing is part of life - friends do it each other - a wind up. Its actually a sign of friendship - Bear interviening saved Chloe alot of embarassment.

Nothing maclicious is meant by joshing about and to see that way - well they were just jealous they couldn't get anyone to laugh if they tried for 100 years - and you know it. Where for Bear it was effortless (He won with a massive majority and has gone on to do two programs since)

The my little pussy cat is not homophobic at all so you are really twisting things - Bear has two cats - and I think this something he says to anyone who is getting angry at them to wind them up further - someone with more humour could retort - but Frankie was American and Dull.

You have twisted things to your perception to attempt to make them facts. Opinions are not facts. What I have stated is not fact but opinion. I ve been bullied and I can tell you Bear is not a bully.

He literally just wants to live in positivity.

Attacking someone ''at their core'' Is like a full blown character assisnation. Like what Aubrey to Bear saying she had done this and this and he would never amount to anything.

But all in all he won - most people got the joke - its a shame you missed out because it was a great series.

p.s why have you left out the parties and clubs Bear came up with to try to bring everyone together?
Shine bright like a frankie I guess?

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by sungrass

Snowflakes.

Oh, you're one of those.

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Originally Posted by DouglasS

If stuff is hear'say or wasn't shown on the show it's a rumour. Anyone can make up stuff about anyone.

You really think Samantha Fox or Renee are liars? And besides more than half the things I listed DID happen

Originally Posted by sungrass

Yes people who didnt get Bear seem to be quite binary thinkers - maybe young and not very experienced. Snowflakes.

Maybe they ve never watched only fools and horses - and have seen that in the East End joshing is part of life - friends do it each other - a wind up. Its actually a sign of friendship - Bear interviening saved Chloe alot of embarassment.

Joshing =/= being a malicious bully.

Nothing maclicious is meant by joshing about and to see that way - well they were just jealous they couldn't get anyone to laugh if they tried for 100 years - and you know it. Where for Bear it was effortless (He won with a massive majority and has gone on to do two programs since)

They weren't jealous of jack ****. They repeatedly got pissed off at what he was doing. (and no he did not win by a "massive majority", he won by 1%)

The my little pussy cat is not homophobic at all so you are really twisting things - Bear has two cats - and I think this something he says to anyone who is getting angry at them to wind them up further - someone with more humour could retort - but Frankie was American and Dull.

It IS homophobic, accidental or not. I don't give a **** how many cats Stephen Bear owns. And American and Dull?

You have twisted things to your perception to attempt to make them facts. Opinions are not facts. What I have stated is not fact but opinion. I ve been bullied and I can tell you Bear is not a bully.

TELL ME WHAT I'VE TWISTED.

He literally just wants to live in positivity.

Congratulations, you fell for his facade.

Attacking someone ''at their core'' Is like a full blown character assisnation. Like what Aubrey to Bear saying she had done this and this and he would never amount to anything.

I mean she did to this after nearly a month of him being an egregious prick who screamed in people's faces on a daily basis, dominated the attention of every room, pushed the divide in the house to drastic lengths, antagonized anyone who argued with him with "That was very nasty behavior!", not to mention this is the same day he cream pies her just to be a twat, makes a half-hearted apology that she (rightfully) doesn't accept because he's done it over 342424242 times, and calls her and Renee pathetic and embarassing, hence her blowup against him.

But all in all he won - most people got the joke - its a shame you missed out because it was a great series.

Winning something doesn't make you any less of a slimeball.

p.s why have you left out the parties and clubs Bear came up with to try to bring everyone together?
Shine bright like a frankie I guess?

Because that's typically a bully's attempt to try and come off nice and positive to the people around him, which is true in this case since the two or three times Bear did this he'd do something horrible the very next day.

Originally Posted by HBIC

Consistently goading and antagonizing someone just for a reaction is bullying. Bear was absolutely a bully. He got away with the way he behaved because the rest of the CBB18 cast was, quite frankly, dumb. Stick him in CBB17 and see if anybody tolerates his behavior. The entire cast would stick together to isolate him or they would force the producers to eject him. You really think somebody like Tiffany, Gemma, or even John would tolerate half the stuff Bear did? And these HMs are all far more intelligent than Bear so they absolutely would tear him apart.

Bear was also a complete and utter coward. He crapped himself when he was confronted by the security guard in the diary room and he was visibly rattled when Aubrey ripped him apart. The CBB18 was literally too weak. Stick him in the house with someone like Dennis Rodman or Vinnie Jones or Razor from CBB11 and we would not have seen a single one of his pranks. He would have been the one evicted for being too boring. Somebody like Luisa would have drove Bear to a nervous breakdown through just verbal insults. We saw how he much it affected him when Aubrey called him a failure.

CBB18 was a colossal failure. It became "The Bear Show" because the other housemates allowed it to and production was desperate for some sort of storyline. In other series, Bear would merely be an extra or vilified for being a bully.

This! Seeing Tiffany, Gemma, and John band together against him

[poppsywoppsy]

Perez, he was something else.

[Shaun]

Farrah, Jasmine Lennard, Spencer Pratt, Austin Armacost or Stacy Francis.

As awful as CBB18 was, none of them were particularly "nasty" like these were.

[MB.]

I'm aware that there's a difference between nasty and simply unpleasant, and this isn't my answer per se (Hopkins, Farrah and Jasmine Lennard are good shouts), but all the same how have we made it to three pages without one mention of the guy who advised a woman not to report a potential sexual assault because the Jews run Hollywood?

[Gstar]

Paddy
Kirk
Nat Cass
Gareth
Razor
Evander
Lionel
Kav
Gail

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Originally Posted by Germyle

Paddy
Kirk
Nat Cass
Gareth
Razor
Evander
Lionel
Kav
Gail

Can you elaborate on these ones?

[Gstar]

Originally Posted by RobertC

Can you elaborate on these ones?

Scum

[MB.]

Lionel was truly evil, I agree

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AM-I-YOUR-BOSS-NOW?

[Greg!]

Screaming poor Nat Cass

[Jason.]

NOT Gail

She literally offered to make people toast and cups of tea while they were all screaming at each other