[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Claim
Poverty doesn't exist and isn't a problem, it's just lazy freeloaders.

Conclusion

I didn't say any of that. Why is it that you feel it necessary to misrepresent people by projecting some bull you are making up onto them?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I didn't say any of that. Why is it that you feel it necessary to misrepresent people by projecting some bull you are making up onto them?

Who said you did?... Nobody that I can see :/

[Kizzy]

I think that the attitudinal shift has come from the establishment, a few yrs ago would working people and families using foodbanks be so acceptable generally?
Personally I doubt it and it all plays into the 'austerity' myth that it is ok for people to lie in want because 'austerity' especially when you hear statements like this..
“I don’t think the state can do everything,” he said. “It tries to provide a base of welfare that should allow people to make ends meet during the course of the week, but on some occasions that will not work. And to have charitable support given by people voluntarily to support their fellow citizens, I think is rather uplifting and shows what a good, compassionate country we are.”

If it were only people on welfare using food banks it would be bad enough and yet it isn't, and the govt are not acknowledging this they are effectively saying that they will not aid those who can not aid themselves.
As we are a 'civilised society' the onus falls on us to help... there is no question of calling for landlords to reduce exorbitant rents, the energy cabal of capping prices of paying a decent living wage, of reducing VAT....nothing that would actually help and not in the way of what many see as 'handouts'.

I 100% agree with the churches position that he is unChristian, as he has seemingly stated that there is nothing that the establishment can or will do for those in need and if their communities cannot help then they are to starve.
How else can his statement be interpreted?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ther-uplifting

[Kizzy]

Regardless of what is considered being in 'poverty' that in no way excuses his attitude or comments in regard to the topic anyway it's totally irrelevant in fact.