[Jamie89]

Howling at the pegs

[Kizzy]

Youtube video

[smudgie]

I love Buddy Holly.
Hubby sings this song to me.

[Vicky.]

OK honestly, I was kind of following this until the peg thing. Thats totally threw me off.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

OK honestly, I was kind of following this until the peg thing. Thats totally threw me off.

It's not hard to follow. Brillo pegged Withano and now they're both wracked with guilt and shame.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Toy Santa

It's not hard to follow. Brillo pegged Withano and now they're both wracked with guilt and shame.

Also this

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

OK honestly, I was kind of following this until the peg thing. Thats totally threw me off.

She thought this was me because I said it was about three months ago, and I completely forgot about it until she explained

Youtube video

[Vicky.]

Oh dear

[Kizzy]

What a crock of ****... many do lump all Muslims as a collective! And when it came to bombing the bejesus out of somewhere a couple of years a go there was a collective 'yes!'
I said no obv and was called 'unpatriotic'.... Like an elephant I never forget!

Colonialists turned a blind eye to subjugation due to the spoils so quit the bull and take the blame and the shame, you earned it!

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Christmas treeza

What a crock of ****... many do lump all Muslims as a collective! And when it came to bombing the bejesus out of somewhere a couple of years a go there was a collective 'yes!'
I said no obv and was called 'unpatriotic'.... Like an elephant I never forget!

Colonialists turned a blind eye to subjugation due to the spoils so quit the bull and take the blame and the shame, you earned it!

Rather like the PC brigade are conveniently turning a blind eye to the obvious subjugation of Muslim women in Britain (despite trying to convince us all that it is free choice, who the hell do they think they are trying to kid- only themselves maybe to conveniently fit in with their political beliefs) as they walk around covering themselves from head to toe, in their shame for being women, in the HERE and NOW.

Maybe they should take the blame and the shame they have clearly earned for not practicing what they preach.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Rather like the PC brigade are conveniently turning a blind eye to the obvious subjugation of Muslim women in Britain (despite trying to convince us all that it is free choice, who the hell do they think they are trying to kid- only themselves maybe to conveniently fit in with their political beliefs) as they walk around covering themselves from head to toe, in their shame for being women, in the HERE and NOW.

Maybe they should take the blame and the shame they have clearly earned for not practicing what they preach.

So you believe people who are protective towards 'Muslim choice' are being politically correct and not because they fight against those who have hate inside them towards a percentage of the masses?

You see, this sort of response is the sort of thing that makes me go off on one. If someone said this on any channel but BB I'd tear them a new one, but on here Brillo your are snugly protected. Surrounded by a PC that protects the few but not the many. This place is your playground

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

So you believe people who are protective towards 'Muslim choice' are being politically correct and not because they fight against those who have hate inside them towards a percentage of the masses?

You see, this sort of response is the sort of thing that makes me go off on one. If someone said this on any channel but BB I'd tear them a new one, but on here Brillo your are snugly protected. Surrounded by a PC that protects the few but not the many. This place is your playground

you could do this and risk the infraction, rather than the passive aggressive digs I guess

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Candy Cane

you could do this and risk the infraction, rather than the passive aggressive digs I guess

Oh come on, you come over as one of the most passive aggressive people on here.

[Livia]

People are suspicious of Muslims because, although not all Muslims are terrorists, all terrorists are Muslim... at least the ones wreaking havoc on the west are. But we don't know which ones, and that's the crux of it. So we're pretty much suspicious of all of them. That doesn't mean people don't recognise quite clearly that IS and their like kill more Muslims than non-Muslims.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Livia

People are suspicious of Muslims because, although not all Muslims are terrorists, all terrorists are Muslim... at least the ones wreaking havoc on the west are. But we don't know which ones, and that's the crux of it. So we're pretty much suspicious of all of them. That doesn't mean people don't recognise quite clearly that IS and their like kill more Muslims than non-Muslims.

Oh dear Livia, you used the word 'we'... collective was it?!

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

So you believe people who are protective towards 'Muslim choice' are being politically correct and not because they fight against those who have hate inside them towards a percentage of the masses?

You see, this sort of response is the sort of thing that makes me go off on one. If someone said this on any channel but BB I'd tear them a new one, but on here Brillo your are snugly protected. Surrounded by a PC that protects the few but not the many. This place is your playground

Why do I need protecting, I am not abusing Muslims and I am not promoting any kind of abuse towards anyone. You constantly accusing anyone who exercises their right to an opinon in their criticism of Islam as ‘being full of hate’ does a pretty good job though.

That almost sounds like some kind of disguised threat. So you would do what exactly if I dared express my opinion on a misogynistic religion on another site - try to deny me my opinions and shout me down with abuse. Good one.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Why do I need protecting, I am not abusing Muslims and I am not promoting any kind of abuse towards anyone. You constantly accusing anyone who exercises their right to an opinon in their criticism of Islam as ‘being full of hate’ does a pretty good job though.

That almost sounds like some kind of disguised threat. So you would do what exactly if I dared express my opinion on a misogynistic religion on another site - try to deny me my opinions and shout me down with abuse. Good one.

What has this got to do with what I said. You said "Rather like the PC brigade are conveniently turning a blind eye to the obvious subjugation of Muslim women in Britain (despite trying to convince us all that it is free choice, who the hell do they think they are trying to kid- only themselves maybe to conveniently fit in with their political beliefs) as they walk around covering themselves from head to toe, in their shame for being women, in the HERE and NOW."

Which suggests that any of us who stands up to a Muslim womans rights is doing it because they are being PC. I said (though not my exact words) you can say that about people like its a 'real' thing simply because you believe its a 'real' thing, but its not a real thing, its Brillo propaganda.

What I get from your thinking is, you believe everyone is disgusted with the subjugation of Muslim women who are (in your mind) forced into wearing the veil and those who speak out against people like you feel the same as you do but fight against you because of PC. In other words you are calling me...indirectly, a fake and I take issue with that.

Let me be clear about this none existent disguised threat. If I was on a none PC forum and you said that, I would of come back at you with some very insulting words but I'm not so I can't.

[Niamh.]

Please stop getting personal with eachother and stick to the topic

[smudgie]

On the actual subject, men did dress in the burkha to murder poor innocents, so we know it can happen.
Perhaps if the face can be shown in public places it would suffice.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by NanaChristmas

On the actual subject, men did dress in the burkha to murder poor innocents, so we know it can happen.
Perhaps if the face can be shown in public places it would suffice.

That's the problem, isn't it. Only a small percentage of Muslims are fundamentalists, but we have no way, as the general public, to identify which ones are. And IS and Hezbollah etc. have no worries about using women and children as human shields so surely Muslims can understand why people are concerned that a section of the public, the section of the public with the most terrorists at the moment, are allowed to walk around incognito. You see women in burkas in banks... motorcyclists are asked to remove their helmets, though. It makes no sense.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Livia

That's the problem, isn't it. Only a small percentage of Muslims are fundamentalists, but we have no way, as the general public, to identify which ones are. And IS and Hezbollah etc. have no worries about using women and children as human shields so surely Muslims can understand why people are concerned that a section of the public, the section of the public with the most terrorists at the moment, are allowed to walk around incognito. You see women in burkas in banks... motorcyclists are asked to remove their helmets, though. It makes no sense.

Yep,I don’t think face coverings should be allowed in public buildings just as helmets like you say.

[Northern Monkey]

Also this idea that criticising Islam is ‘Islamaphobic’ is just a lefty shutdown tactic.
Islamaphobia is a ridiculous word anyway.
People can criticise any religion they like for now.
And it’s little wonder why there’s so much female oppression in Islam when many muslims hang on every word of a prophet who used to beat his 9 year old wife.
Islam needs criticism.So do other religions but other religions are’nt as much of a problem now or taken so literally by the majority of followers.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Also this idea that criticising Islam is ‘Islamaphobic’ is just a lefty shutdown tactic.
Islamaphobia is a ridiculous word anyway.
People can criticise any religion they like for now.
And it’s little wonder why there’s so much female oppression in Islam when many muslims hang on every word of a prophet who used to beat his 9 year old wife.
Islam needs criticism.So do other religions but other religions are’nt as much of a problem now or taken so literally by the majority of followers.

Let's call it what it is then... Anti-semitism

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Christmas treeza

Let's call it what it is then... Anti-semitism

So it’s anti-semitic to criticise a religion?

The day that becomes a law then we know we’re in John McDonell’s cosy little authoritarian nightmare

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

So it’s anti-semitic to criticise a religion?

The day that becomes a law then we know we’re in John McDonell’s cosy little authoritarian nightmare

Obviously it depends on the context.