[AnnieK]

Lol....I think amanda would be horrified to be considered a role model for anything. She seems very happy in her life and marriage and thats about it. At 82, I think her anything modelling fays are behind her.

Shane J was amazing in the first 2 weeks and did an amazing job at least educating viewers on his views about the LBGT community, I loved listening to him challenging India and Ann but now he is just going round bitching and almost trying to recruit housemates to turn against Ann which is not going to educate anyone. He needs to get back to his forthright ways and challenge Ann if he feels he needs to so his views are heard properly again

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Lol....I think amanda would be horrified to be considered a role model for anything. She seems very happy in her life and marriage and thats about it. At 82, I think her anything modelling fays are behind her.

Shane J was amazing in the first 2 weeks and did an amazing job at least educating viewers on his views about the LBGT community, I loved listening to him challenging India and Ann but now he is just going round bitching and almost trying to recruit housemates to turn against Ann which is not going to educate anyone. He needs to get back to his forthright ways and challenge Ann if he feels he needs to so his views are heard properly again

Indeed. Agree with every word.

[Natawho]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Lol....I think amanda would be horrified to be considered a role model for anything. She seems very happy in her life and marriage and thats about it. At 82, I think her anything modelling fays are behind her.

Shane J was amazing in the first 2 weeks and did an amazing job at least educating viewers on his views about the LBGT community, I loved listening to him challenging India and Ann but now he is just going round bitching and almost trying to recruit housemates to turn against Ann which is not going to educate anyone. He needs to get back to his forthright ways and challenge Ann if he feels he needs to so his views are heard properly again

Finally a bit of sweetcorn in this cesspit

[Lilac hills]

Amanda teaches acceptance, Shane j demands acceptance

[lewis111]

I get that what Shane did and they way he went about it were wrong, and Amanda saying Ann is not dictating her views is also true

But from what I interpreted from the show it seemed like Amanda was telling Shane he has no right to challange Ann's views rather than he has no right to bitch about her and gang up on them - that's all she had to say and it would be clear she made more sense
She's fine to accept Ann and like her for the person but saying that Shane has to do that as well

[lewis111]

LGBTQ makes the most sense as Q is an umblress term for all others

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by lewis111

LGBTQ makes the most sense as Q is an umblress term for all others

What "others" are there?

[lewis111]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

What "others" are there?

People who identify as Anything other than Straight, Gay, Lesbian or bisexual

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by lewis111

People who identify as Anything other than Straight, Gay, Lesbian or bisexual

Such as ... ? What else is there?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by lewis111

LGBTQ makes the most sense as Q is an umblress term for all others

Totally disagree tbh. I have loads of gay mates and so many of them still find queer an insult.

Actually many of them also want the T removed, as T is nothing to do with sexuality where LGB obviously are.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Lilac hills

Look no further than Amanda

Instead of getting people to be part of culty movements and demanding rights, Amanda teaches to just be happy and accept people for who they are and not trivial things, and be thankful to receive it back

Amanda went through a period of time where gays had no rights at all, Shane whines about people refusing to call him his drag name

Shanes done their cause no good at all in fact set it back ,as all he's shown in the house is a demanding, self serving little twat

[Denver]

How can Shane be a role model when all he brags about is dressing up in drag to pull straight guys?

[lewis111]

I've watched it back a couple times and I'm almost certain they're both having different arguments

[poppsywoppsy]

Shane's way of educating is to shame and blame and by goodness doesn't he sulk when told to back off by Gays.

He has reverted to a nasty little sneak, who tittle tattles in corners to whoever will listen.

Since his love interest has left, he doesn't get the blind support, even Malika and Ashley were not on his side tonight and he sulked and sulked

He acts like a 6 year old when he is not the centre of attention. Some role model.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Lilac hills

Look no further than Amanda

Instead of getting people to be part of culty movements and demanding rights, Amanda teaches to just be happy and accept people for who they are and not trivial things, and be thankful to receive it back

Amanda went through a period of time where gays had no rights at all, Shane whines about people refusing to call him his drag name

I actually did this reaction when Shane J moaned about Ann "disrespecting" him by not calling him courtney when he's in drag .

[Ashley.]

Why do gay people have to be role models? If I was gay, I'd hate to feel as though I'm required to adjust my behaviour so as not to give people a reason to hate all gay people. We don't make generalisations about straight people based on one straight man or woman so I don't see why people who have entered the house and happen to be gay are constantly under fire for not setting a good enough example.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Lilac hills

Look no further than Amanda

Instead of getting people to be part of culty movements and demanding rights, Amanda teaches to just be happy and accept people for who they are and not trivial things, and be thankful to receive it back

Amanda went through a period of time where gays had no rights at all, Shane whines about people refusing to call him his drag name

and dont forget in week one he said he did not care what name people call him


soon changed his tune when being called out by Ann


Problem with Shane is he just wants likes but the veil soon slips when people realise what is behind it...

[Robodog]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

and dont forget in week one he said he did not care what name people call him


soon changed his tune when being called out by Ann


Problem with Shane is he just wants likes but the veil soon slips when people realise what is behind it...

Exactly !!

In SHANE'S OWN WORDS he has described Courtney as 'superficial' !

When HE is the one giving mixed messages - he can't expect others to be consistent !!

[Black Dagger]

Can people who don't give a **** about LGBT rights stop pretending they're activists.