[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I think there is a lot of waste and greed,just this week there was a story of some who worked in the NHS who had ripped it off to the tune of a million quid over time,plus I know councils who spent ridiculous amounts out on sending glossy calendars out to all their tenants every year,these are not cheap calendars ,and must cost thousands,also their council vans painted with bloody Wallace and Grommit advertising how caring the council is,lol really did they actually need those vans painting? they could use that money for the repairs that should be done instead of claiming they have no money all the time,so I don't think the government alone can be blamed ,there is a LOT of greed and waste in these companies, the government will be fighting a losing battle throwing money at people who are intent on wasting and looking after themselves, but I guess some have to blame someone.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-new...n-scam-4706806

A £million quid is nothing if you compare it to the £70 billion given out in PFI most of which has ended up in offshore tax havens and guess who has to pay that high interest £70... now £80 billion back?

[user104658]

This is what worries me as well Mock; that the Tories have everyone whooping about saving money so much that there seems to be some sort of idea that "permanent austerity" would be a good thing. How will the country grow? How will it modernise? Even if you do believe in austerity, it is supposed to be a TEMPORARY measure and at some point there MUST be a return to investment in our infrastructure, education, and general wellbeing. If there isn't, then in a few short decades we will simply be left behind by the rest of the modern world. Towns will continue to degrade (and they are already dated and embarrassing), roads, other services will all stagnate... I don't understand why any "proud" citizen of a country would celebrate that?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

This is what worries me as well Mock; that the Tories have everyone whooping about saving money so much that there seems to be some sort of idea that "permanent austerity" would be a good thing. How will the country grow? How will it modernise? Even if you do believe in austerity, it is supposed to be a TEMPORARY measure and at some point there MUST be a return to investment in our infrastructure, education, and general wellbeing. If there isn't, then in a few short decades we will simply be left behind by the rest of the modern world. Towns will continue to degrade (and they are already dated and embarrassing), roads, other services will all stagnate... I don't understand why any "proud" citizen of a country would celebrate that?

They have now created/bolstered the "we are good with the economy/labour get us into debt" thing that English voters love to vote on

wait till the next election to witness this in action

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

They have now created/bolstered the "we are good with the economy/labour get us into debt" thing that English voters love to vote on

wait till the next election to witness this in action

Public sector debt wasn't caused by Brown over spending It was caused by the global banking crisis.
Blair and Brown were running the country and allowing banks to dominate the economy the same way Major did and the same way Cameron and May are still doing.

Your hubristic comments only show how little you understand about how the country is still being run.

Keep enjoying the 'big lie'

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

yes and oh wait you see through it all?

the lizard people and the glitterati and the masons

sure jan

I do too, many do... why can't you?

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

This is what worries me as well Mock; that the Tories have everyone whooping about saving money so much that there seems to be some sort of idea that "permanent austerity" would be a good thing. How will the country grow? How will it modernise? Even if you do believe in austerity, it is supposed to be a TEMPORARY measure and at some point there MUST be a return to investment in our infrastructure, education, and general wellbeing. If there isn't, then in a few short decades we will simply be left behind by the rest of the modern world. Towns will continue to degrade (and they are already dated and embarrassing), roads, other services will all stagnate... I don't understand why any "proud" citizen of a country would celebrate that?

Scary post because every word is spot on.

[Crimson Dynamo]

so 4 pages in and not one example of a service on its knees

just a lot of anecdotal fluff

[Kizzy]

Should there be any it would be from the wrong source, or dubious stats... rather prove it is in full health and I'll believe you.

[Beso]

Are they **** as like...its all just bawbags moaning to be relevent...red tapes the only thing ****ing things up...you probably need a comfirmation letter to confirm your original confirmation letter...ah wish everyone out there in the world would just ****..am fed up of moaning news stories..

[user104658]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Are they **** as like...its all just bawbags moaning to be relevent...red tapes the only thing ****ing things up...you probably need a comfirmation letter to confirm your original confirmation letter...ah wish everyone out there in the world would just ****..am fed up of moaning news stories..

Parmy still enjoying his birthday festivities. Aww.