[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Adam.

He has no grounds to stand on,

He's in pain for his son and lashing out, probably had some dubious legal advice from a FB Law Specialist. His son is struggling for breath and he can't get him any help....its an awful situation for anyone to face

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

He's in pain for his son and lashing out, probably had some dubious legal advice from a FB Law Specialist. His son is struggling for breath and he can't get him any help....its an awful situation for anyone to face

Indeed.

Whoever his lawyer is is taking advantage of his grief in order to make some cash, tbh. Despicable.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

He has no grounds to stand on,

And you clearly know more about the situation than the lawyers he has consulted and the actual people involved.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

And you clearly know more about the situation than the lawyers he has consulted and the actual people involved.

The courts have stated the life support machine must be switched off so they cant then be culpable for murder

[Kizzy]

Of course they are serious, the boy is alive if they are refusing to treat yes, now he is off life support it's a whole new ball game.

[Denver]

The courts said to stop all treatment.

He should be arrested for organising protests and stopping families seeing their I'll children

[Amy Jade]

I am sick of seeing people on facebook who work as cleaners in lidl attacking the staff at the hospital and saying they are killing kids and crap at their jobs.

These very people save thousands of childrens lives with very little praise. Some woman I have on fb because I know her daughter is spouting some rubbish saying all the staff in Alder Hey should be fired and people are agreeding. The stupid twat, proper making me angry.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

I am sick of seeing people on facebook who work as cleaners in lidl attacking the staff at the hospital and saying they are killing kids and crap at their jobs.

These very people save thousands of childrens lives with very little praise. Some woman I have on fb because I know her daughter is spouting some rubbish saying all the staff in Alder Hey should be fired and people are agreeding. The stupid twat, proper making me angry.

People are still angry at Alder Hey for the organ harvesting that went on and they are latching on to Alfie as q way to vent that anger. It is awful, I've read posts of people whose kids were in surgery when they were threatening to set off fire alarms begging them not to......they need to send all the protesters away and just concentrate on their baby now. So sad......

[Denver]

ALDER Hey Hospital is tonight on lockdown amid rumours of a planned raid by protesters supporting ill toddler Alfie Evans.

He was barred from going to Italy for treatment after another failed legal challenge as the Appeal Court rejected pleas by Alfie's family to have him airlifted from the Liverpool clinic.

What sick people trying to bring harm to hundreds of ill kids

[jaxie]

I feel so sorry for all the other families with sick kids at the hospital. It must be very difficult for them.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I feel so sorry for all the other families with sick kids at the hospital. It must be very difficult for them.

Ive heard some families have been shut outside because of the protests.

The hospital are being accused of not letting the boy go with his family yet they are denying families the right to see their sick children some who will not have long to live

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Ive heard some families have been shut outside because of the protests.

The hospital are being accused of not letting the boy go with his family yet they are denying families the right to see their sick children some who will not have long to live

What is a bit of a worry is that these court battles and hospital demonstrations will become a trend when people don't want to deal with terrible news. Hospital staff save a lot of lives and do an amazing job but are already under pressure.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by jaxie

What is a bit of a worry is that these court battles and hospital demonstrations will become a trend when people don't want to deal with terrible news. Hospital staff save a lot of lives and do an amazing job but are already under pressure.

Exactly - there's a social media mob for every occasion these days, it's getting dangerously out of control in my opinion.

[Amy Jade]

Innocent staff at Alder Hey threatened and harrased by moronic 'Alfie's Army' protestors again this morning.

My sympathy for the family is almost rock bottom, poor little boy but his father especially is a scumbag.

[Underscore]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Innocent staff at Alder Hey threatened and harrased by moronic 'Alfie's Army' protestors again this morning.

My sympathy for the family is almost rock bottom, poor little boy but his father especially is a scumbag.

Well said.

[jaxie]

Maru, what has been said in court is that the child is more or less brain dead. They have said that tests show most brain function is gone, he can't see, hear, respond, eat, drink etc. He is in a semi vegitative state. You can't regenerate the brain. In this case and the case of Charlie Gard recently, this seems more a case of the parents being unable to accept that news. The hospital in Rome accept that all they can likely do is end of life care. The Court ruled it would not be fair to move him. There is no treatment or miracle cure. Of course if there were any hope of his receiving treatment that might help most people would support him getting it but where there is no treatment why move him and risk making him uncomfortable.

The difference between our medical system and the US is massive and our health care does not revolve around cash and greedy insurance companies and drug companies. Our healthcare professionals will likely never be paid enough for what they do and the NHS is viewed extreme affection in this country. We are very proud of our world class, free health care for all and fiercely protective of it.

Of course humans can make mistakes but on the whole these people save many many lives and they are dedicated. They aren't going to tell you there is no hope for your child unless there is no hope. This isn't the opinion of one person. It's the opinion of many, including independent medical people brought in.

Parents don't always know what is best, they have their own emotions to deal with and it's hard to see that prolonging a life hooked to a machine that isn't really a life lived is not necessarily in the child's best interests. Nor are parents in this situation likely to be thinking rationally. And they've brought a mob which is intimidating staff and the parents of other very sick children.

[user104658]

He's in (what they used to call) a persistent vegetative state (now called unresponsive wakefulness) / in and out of coma and he will not recover. Its tragic, totally tragic, but if he did somehow wake up it would be a literal miracle... It simply won't happen.

In the meantime, the pain and distress they're causing to the families of other very sick children is abhorrent.

[arista]

"Anyway, why does that keep happening?"

Its not like USA
its because of our free health service,
and the Italian Pope has nothing to do with this.


today Live on TV
ITV GMBHD
the dad claimed its a miss diagnosis?

[Kizzy]

Calling the father of this very sick little boy names is abhorrent, walk a mile in his shoes.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Calling the father of this very sick little boy names is abhorrent, walk a mile in his shoes.

So you think it is acceptable for the thug to organise protests to target the hospital and staff?

Do you not care for the families who are unable to be at their child's bedside because of this thug?

I'm not being funny but all he cares about is causing trouble and getting in the papers.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

So you think it is acceptable for the thug to organise protests to target the hospital and staff?

Do you not care for the families who are unable to be at their child's bedside because of this thug?

I'm not being funny but all he cares about is causing trouble and getting in the papers.

Thug?

How judgemental.

[Cal.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Thug?

How judgemental.

He bloody stabbed someone! He is a thug!

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Thug?

How judgemental.

So you think its right for him to round people up to bombard the hospital and attack people ?

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Adam.

So you think its right for him to round people up to bombard the hospital and attack people ?

the hospital is still standing, and not bombed like you say now

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

So you think its right for him to round people up to bombard the hospital and attack people ?

Nice diversion. I didn't say that did I?

But there's understanding the state of mind he must be in and just callously calling him a thug.

And before I get the "well that makes it alright then?" No. I didn't say that either.