[GiRTh]

Trump lies frequently and fluidly. That’s not a justification for his lying. That’s a fact. And it is also a fact that most Americans have already priced in Trump’s dishonesty. Trump’s garbage with women in his personal life, and he always has been. He’s dishonest about his personal life, and he always has been. He should be condemned for that. But there’s no groundshift in anyone’s judgment about Trump based on the Stormy Daniels affair.

Astonishing that just over a year into Donnies administration and a comment like this is made in such a matter of fact way.

[Maru]

Giuliani Interview:

Youtube video

Response from Stormy Daniel's lawyer:

Youtube video

[bots]

The net is closing in on Trump from about 10 different directions. He is an habitual liar. I would hate to be an American right now (sorry to our American members) because they have never had a president this bad before and it must affect peoples day to day lives.

[arista]

[I'm so sick and tired of hearing about Stormy Daniels and Daniel's sex life. Really. If he did something illegal, he should be held accountable, absolutely... but I think these sorts of illegal activities go on in campaigns all the time and yet we never see people held accountable. So this is just going to stretch on forever, but I'm not so sure it they will end up with much...]


Bang On Right Maru.

[Maru]

Source: http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...facts-straight

Trump on Giuliani: He'll get his facts straight

President Trump on Friday called his new personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, a “great guy,” but suggested he may have gotten details wrong about a payment to adult-film actress Stormy Daniels, which she says was made to keep her from speaking about an alleged affair with Trump.

“He started yesterday,” Trump incorrectly said of Giuliani, who was hired on April 19. “He’ll get his facts straight. He’s a great guy.”

Speaking to reporters on the South Lawn of the White House, Trump said the former New York City mayor is “working hard, he’s learning the subject matter and he’s going to be issuing a statement, too.”

Trump said Giuliani shares his opinion that criminal investigations swirling around his presidency are a “witch hunt.”

Giuliani just one day earlier said Trump reimbursed his longtime attorney Michael Cohen for the $130,000 payment to Daniels, contradicting the president’s previous claim that he did not know anything about the payment.

Giuliani said Trump only learned recently about the purpose of the payment, which was made in the weeks leading up to the 2016 election.

Trump backed up Giuliani’s account in a series of tweets Thursday morning. That night, Giuliani told NBC News he coordinated his remarks with Trump, who he said agreed with the decision to reveal the reimbursement.
"You're not going to see daylight between the president and me," the former mayor said. "We're going to work hard to have a consistent strategy."

But now, Trump appears to be walking that account back, adding even more confusion about the payment that has dogged his presidency.

“Rudy had just started and he wasn’t totally familiar with everything,” Trump said later at Joint Base Andrews when asked about Giuliani’s comments.

Trump insisted “we’re not changing any stories” and urged reporters to go back to his statements early last month, when he flatly denied knowing about the payment and claimed he had no knowledge of the source of the money.

"No," Trump said when asked by a reporter if he knew about the Daniels payment.

When a reporter asked why the payment was made, the president responded, "you'll have to ask Michael Cohen."

The White House has been under siege since Giuliani’s disclosure, with a stream of negative headlines about how the conflicting statements have undermined its credibility.

The payment is also the subject of a federal criminal investigation into Cohen, which the president’s allies fear could put him at grave legal risk. Investigators are examining whether the hush money constituted a campaign-finance violation.

[Maru]

Youtube video

[kirklancaster]

The Donald should now adhere to that wise old maxim; 'Least Said, Soonest Mended' and clam up.

Then this tedious, 'Blown-Up-Out-Of-all-Proportion' NON-EVENT might fade away.

Whether he had paid silence money to a hundred (ugly) prostitutes or not does NOT have any REAL bearing on whether he will make a 'Good Fist' of being a President or not, despite what the best efforts of the ever-more-ingeniously-artful Anti-Trump Brigade would have us believe.

And what kind of President Trump turns out to be is ALL that I care about.

Stormy Daniels and every low-life, moral-less, Golddigging ho like her should
disappear into the nearest bottomless chasm.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

The Donald should now adhere to that wise old maxim; 'Least Said, Soonest Mended' and clam up.

Then this tedious, 'Blown-Up-Out-Of-all-Proportion' NON-EVENT might fade away.

Whether he had paid silence money to a hundred (ugly) prostitutes or not does NOT have any REAL bearing on whether he will make a 'Good Fist' of being a President or not, despite what the best efforts of the ever-more-ingeniously-artful Anti-Trump Brigade would have us believe.

And what kind of President Trump turns out to be is ALL that I care about.

Stormy Daniels and every low-life, moral-less, Golddigging ho like her should
disappear into the nearest bottomless chasm.

Here, here!

[bots]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

The Donald should now adhere to that wise old maxim; 'Least Said, Soonest Mended' and clam up.

Then this tedious, 'Blown-Up-Out-Of-all-Proportion' NON-EVENT might fade away.

Whether he had paid silence money to a hundred (ugly) prostitutes or not does NOT have any REAL bearing on whether he will make a 'Good Fist' of being a President or not, despite what the best efforts of the ever-more-ingeniously-artful Anti-Trump Brigade would have us believe.

And what kind of President Trump turns out to be is ALL that I care about.

Stormy Daniels and every low-life, moral-less, Golddigging ho like her should
disappear into the nearest bottomless chasm.

It's a lot more serious than paying some money. Firstly, it was done at a point where it was directly related to the election campaign, a thug was paid to frighten etc. Now the details are open to question and interpretation, but there are questions to be answered.

On top of this, is the almighty link with Russia, and it is a big link, and all that will come out. It has the potential to be an act of treason, pretty serious I think.

The next thing was the narrative.The opponent (Hilary) is a criminal that should be in jail ... no judge, no jury, just ... Hilary should be in jail. He has used similar tactics repeatedly, any time the pressure is on him to try and sway public opinion irrespective of the facts.

He is a pathological liar. He has on average been found out to have lied 6 times per day while in office ..... that just isn't acceptable.

Most serious of all, he is going against an establishment that he is now president of. His corruption and nepotism is wide spread. He is encouraging people in to civil disobedience and anarchy, so that when it comes to the point that he has to answer for his actions, he wants people out on the streets in open rebellion.

Honestly don't think people realise just how serious this all is.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

It's a lot more serious than paying some money. Firstly, it was done at a point where it was directly related to the election campaign, a thug was paid to frighten etc. Now the details are open to question and interpretation, but there are questions to be answered.

On top of this, is the almighty link with Russia, and it is a big link, and all that will come out. It has the potential to be an act of treason, pretty serious I think.

The next thing was the narrative.The opponent (Hilary) is a criminal that should be in jail ... no judge, no jury, just ... Hilary should be in jail. He has used similar tactics repeatedly, any time the pressure is on him to try and sway public opinion irrespective of the facts.

He is a pathological liar. He has on average been found out to have lied 6 times per day while in office ..... that just isn't acceptable.

Most serious of all, he is going against an establishment that he is now president of. His corruption and nepotism is wide spread. He is encouraging people in to civil disobedience and anarchy, so that when it comes to the point that he has to answer for his actions, he wants people out on the streets in open rebellion.

Honestly don't think people realise just how serious this all is.

Well said.

Plus he is his own worst enemy. A narcissist who is nowhere near as clever as he thinks he is. Very self-damaging combination.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Well said.

Plus he is his own worst enemy. A narcissist who is nowhere near as clever as he thinks he is. Very self-damaging combination.

Like a true narcissist, he seems to do most of his blunder-ing when the media cycles are particularly bad (i.e. the press are hounding him, calling him all sorts of name based on new "leaks"). The press knows this, that's why they keep on him like a dog. They're hoping he'll say something stupid or give up pertinent information when he goes into one of his fits.

If I were Mueller, I would just keep the heat lamp on for another few months, leak minor "leaps" in the investigation, to give him enough rope to hang himself...

Or, that's exactly what they're doing now.

[GiRTh]

Youtube video

Are Donnie and Rudy on the same side?

I think its clear they are trying to weaken Cohens case but does Rudy not realise he is also implicating Donnie? If this works then surely Cohen will flip. Have these two thought this thru?

[Maru]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Youtube video

Are Donnie and Rudy on the same side?

I think its clear they are trying to weaken Cohens case but does Rudy not realise he is also implicating Donnie? If this works then surely Cohen will flip. Have these two thought this thru?

Even if he flips, what could he have to say that isn't isn't covered by attorney client privilege? I think he would if it is found out he possibly covered up something criminal (outside of this payout), but they would have to some significant evidence of it already to compel him to speak on it, or would just be complicating his own case. Wouldn't make sense for him to divulge otherwise, as it could damage his career even since that would make him untrustworthy as an attorney (which is probably his selling point here) and there would have to be evidence that would keep his own hands clean... just a thought.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Maru

Even if he flips, what could he have to say that isn't isn't covered by attorney client privilege? I think he would if it is found out he possibly covered up something criminal (outside of this payout), but they would have to some significant evidence of it already to compel him to speak on it, or would just be complicating his own case. Wouldn't make sense for him to divulge otherwise, as it could damage his career even since that would make him untrustworthy as an attorney (which is probably his selling point here) and there would have to be evidence that would keep his own hands clean... just a thought.

Cohens claims he is Donnies lawyer while Donnies claims he handled a small amount of work for him, so what is covered under the privilege.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Cohens claims he is Donnies lawyer while Donnies claims he handled a small amount of work for him, so what is covered under the privilege.

If that's actually the case, then there's little for him to really divulge. Trump has been through a lot of lawyers... and cabinet members... and wives...

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Maru

If that's actually the case, then there's little for him to really divulge. Trump has been through a lot of lawyers... and cabinet members... and wives...

If Cohen only did a tiny amount then surely there is little that's covered. This is why the strategy is confusing. I would have thought Donnie would claim Cohen did all his work thus its all covered under attorney client privilege.

[arista]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Cohens claims he is Donnies lawyer while Donnies claims he handled a small amount of work for him, so what is covered under the privilege.

Well he is no longer Trumps Lawyer
Now


Of course we do not know
how many other Lawyers
Trump has.

But will this Whole Case of the Former Porn Star /Hooker
from 2006 matter? Even with Hush money payment time.
She is guilty - Took the Money at first ,
then got a slick cocky lawyer
that loves going on every news channel.

[bots]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Cohens claims he is Donnies lawyer while Donnies claims he handled a small amount of work for him, so what is covered under the privilege.

the other thing that doesn't stack up is that Donald was implying that his lawyer was on a retainer and thats how the girl was paid, but a lawyer that doesn't do much for you would not be on a retainer